^^ First, Marzyciel, I highly recommend that you take a look at the DVA WILD class to which this thread is attached, if you haven't already. I think you might find it helpful. Now:
There is no need, ever, to concern yourself about "getting" to REM, much less feel sensations of REM. For that matter, I'm not even sure there are sensations of REM, so looking for them might be not just a distraction from your WILD dive, but a trip down a path that leads away from rather than toward your dream.
REM is called REM because rapid eye movement can be objectively observed (by other people) during it. Rapid eye movement, as far as I know, occurs not on its own but as a result of your dream: During REM your eyes move because they are following the action of a dream -- in other words, if you are experiencing REM, then you are also dreaming. As a sort of extension to that, it would be very unlikely that you will feel your eyes moving during a dream/REM, because your eyes are naturally following imagery and action in your dream, so no unusual movement would gain your attention.
So I'm not sure what is happening when your eyes move as you describe, but it might have nothing at all to do with REM. That movement, like the vibratory sensation you mentioned, are probably just some of the noise that can be experienced during a WILD, and you can, and should, ignore them. I'm not sure where you heard that it is truly necessary to experience body sensations like moving eyes and vibrations in order to complete a WILD transition, but in my opinion whoever said that is mistaken, and their advice best forgotten.
The bottom line on this is no, it is not necessary at all, much less truly necessary, to feel these sensations in order to WILD. There is also no need to concern yourself about "getting" to REM, because REM comes with the dream... concern yourself only with getting to the dream, and your WILD will pass much more smoothly.
These "dreams/fragments" are very likely dreamlets, which are sort of random snippets of dream imagery that come and go as you straddle the fence between wake and sleep. They aren't really dreams, and, unless you have learned to use them to help you form your dream, it is probably best to ignore them, or at most give them a passing nod as mileposts on your way to the actual dream. In general, paying attention to dreamlets, or trying to connect to them, could prove to be an unnecessary distraction at least, and, because they occur before you have fallen asleep, they might lead you to either waking up fully or falling asleep non-lucidly, So leaving them be might be best, for now.Quote:
Another quick question: sometimes, I start to have dreams/fragments of dreams in 'the back of my mind' so to speak, but never in my first person vision. I try to connect both, but it seems I can only choose to stare at empty darkness, or get lost in these imagethoughts without it trully become a dream. I feel that there are two reasons for that: 1) I do not feel disconected enough from my body, it always seems as if I'm having a more profound daydream and 2) To see images in my eyes from a WILD attempt seems like something I cannot mentally trespass, like a block or sticking point (a perfect analogy would be the four-minute mile: until 1954 nobody could run 1 mile in 4 minutes, but when Roger Bannister managed to do it, suddenly EVERYBODY could do it). Any comments on that?
As long as I'm here, here are a couple of quick thoughts about the two reasons you list:
1) There is no need to feel disconnected from your body during a WILD, just as there is no need to feel connected to your body during a WILD. The only connection you should concern yourself with during a WILD is the one you're going to make with your dream; the rest of the stuff simply does not matter. Also, as long as you maintain your focus on the upcoming dream, there is nothing wrong with feeling like you're in a profound daydream along the way.
2) If you can learn to not care about seeing images in your eyes (or anywhere) during your WILD's, I think that block you describe will quickly fade away. To use your analogy: Roger Bannister was first to do something that was inevitable; he didn't so much break open a barrier for others as he just happened to be the first guy on a path that mile runners were bound to travel. Also, he was probably always running just as fast as he could, and didn't give much thought to the 4 minute barrier; something to think about there, I think.