Thread: Juggling Tutorial Video by Gnome

Originally Posted by thegnome54

Hmm... are you sure your timing is good? If you can do the three-ball flash, you're essentially throwing one ball, then doing one under-the-ball throw on each side. In order to do the fourth throw, all you have to do is toss in another under-the-ball throw identical to the one you did for the second ball. If your timing is solid, you shouldn't have too much trouble tossing in that extra fourth one.

Feel free to tape yourself doing it, maybe I could help you out more if I saw what you were doing. Good luck!

Yeah, timing is fine, everything's fine, but when I try the fourth and fifth throws the balls fly everywhere. I would tape myself, but I don't have a camera.

Hey thanks for doing these tutorials gnome! I was thinking about sending you a PM asking for some tips. I guess there is no need now.

I only watched the first one so far. I actually learned how to do three a little differently. I practiced doing two in one hand until I could do it continuously.
Then I practiced doing two in the other hand. Once I could do two proficiently in either hand. I was automatically able to do three. Just by doing the same thing, only alternating hands.

I've never figured out how to do more than three. So I'm hoping to learn some new tricks from you.

I had a pretty crazy dream the other night, that started out by sending you a PM about juggling tips lol. It's in my regular journal if your interested.
I don't know what the link is right now.

Edit: Went back and watched the second video. Already learned a new trick thanks to you. I've been practicing the over hand throw you demonstrated. Where you throw the one ball over the top of the others. I pretty much got it down. I'm going to practice it a little more before trying some of the other ones though.

Thanks again for bringing the fun back into it for me. Just doing the basic cascade gets boring after a while.

Here is the link to that dream.
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...postcount=1102

Originally Posted by thegnome54

Thanks!

There are three things I try to concentrate on to do an effective mills mess:

1) Each ball should follow roughly the same arc as every other ball on any side. There are three throws from one side, three throws from the other side, etc. etc. - I try to concentrate and make sure that all three are making the same arc. This makes it look like a spinning wheel-type pattern.
(You can see that I wasn't quite successful in my avatar at this - the last ball thrown from either side has a slightly wider arc. But it's good enough.)

2) The catches need to be cradles. I try to keep the impacts of the balls on my hands very soft - in order to do this, I move my hands as close to the speed that the balls are going as I can before catching them. You can see this in my avatar, my hands will make quick changes in direction in order to match up more smoothly with the velocity of the next ball. This is kind of tricky, but you get used to it if you 'feel' the pattern enough.

3) "Slide the crooked ball". The first ball you throw on either side is throw from an arm above the other arm, I call this ball 'crooked' because the arm holding it slides over towards the crook of the other arm beneath it. I try to slide this ball over towards the other side as soon as I catch it, to help the pattern stay wide and make it look like the balls are 'snaking' across, back and forth.

Hope that helps!

Thanks for the advice. I wish your tips were as easy as they sound, though!

Burke's Barrage still eluding me.. I just can't understand it
But I'm making a lot of progress. I even learned a few new tricks.

Originally Posted by jhnnyman

Thanks for the advice. I wish your tips were as easy as they sound, though!

Burke's Barrage still eluding me.. I just can't understand it
But I'm making a lot of progress. I even learned a few new tricks.

I'm glad I've been of some help! I might try to come up with an easy way of explaining Burke's and make a tutorial for you sometime later this week, if you'd like.

Originally Posted by Caradon

Thanks again for bringing the fun back into it for me. Just doing the basic cascade gets boring after a while.

Here is the link to that dream.
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...postcount=1102

That's great to hear, Caradon! Makes it very worthwhile
I've read about learning the cascade that way, but I prefer my method for teaching beginners because two-in-one-hand is at four-ball speed, so it can be frustrating to start out at such a relatively high level of juggling skill for some people. If you managed it, though, great! That means you're all set to learn the yoyo and one-up-two-ups! You might even be able to pull off some four-ball tricks, with a little practice!

Originally Posted by thegnome54

You might even be able to pull off some four-ball tricks, with a little practice!

I'd love to eventually learn some four ball stuff! I hope your going to do some videos on that too.

Looking awesome, gnome. I love the glow balls video. It looks like you've got three hands. And 5-ball is a huge challenge.

You mentioned using socks. A lot of magicians practice juggling using 6" or 9" silks (that's "scarfs" for those who don't know) because they have a nice slow fall time. Those large yarn pom-pom things work well too but fall a little faster (not the crocheted yarn balls in the "Pom-pom stick" trick but the fuzzy types like what are use for decorative purposes).

I can get my overhands fairly well now, and am starting to catch on to underarms!

Your video Pic in this Forum inspired me to Google juggling. I bookmarked the page and never got back to it.
SO anyways, How awesome for YOU to have created one. Thank you!

Well I already am in trouble. All I had were golf balls. Actually I got the hang of it pretty well - with 3 that is.
I had it going and I took my eye off the ball, literally and crash.

Maybe my wife won't miss that antique uuuh thingy.?

Originally Posted by Stephent91

I'd like a tutorial for this please.


Seriously, that's pretty cool that you're making tutorials! If you start making some for more advanced tricks that'd be awesome. I can cascade but that's it.

Ahh, now I just watched your second video! Very nice! I'm going to work on overhand later tonight.

This video is highly overrated. Anyone could learn to do that in a few years of unserious practice. Hes just really good at making it look much harder than it is. Rumours state that this guy cannot juggle 5 balls ... and i have no problem beliving that.
I guess that it's hard for most people to understand that everytime a new ball is added, everything gets like 100x as hard. Juggling a simple 5 ball cascade is much harder than doing most 3 ball moves while being blindfolded. Here's an example of a juggler who knows what he's doing (don't be scared away by the beginning):



Gnome - That 3 ball theroist ... it seems that juggl.org is offline, so i can't see it. Could i get the siteswap or something like that? I would really love to try it out. You should try 615 too. Thats a great add-on to the teroist - feels fantastic...

Originally Posted by Stephent91

I can get my overhands fairly well now, and am starting to catch on to underarms!

Great job, that's good to hear!

Originally Posted by Oneironaught

Looking awesome, gnome. I love the glow balls video. It looks like you've got three hands. And 5-ball is a huge challenge.

Haha, thanks! 5-ball cascade is pretty crazy, I'm getting there though. I can do 50-60 throws on a good run, and it feels awesome.

Originally Posted by Howie

I had it going and I took my eye off the ball, literally and crash.

Maybe my wife won't miss that antique uuuh thingy.?

My antics are officially causing damage to houses other than mine... maybe you should try doing it outside first. I tried doing clubs inside once... BAD idea!

Originally Posted by MAXxyz

This video is highly overrated. Anyone could learn to do that in a few years of unserious practice. Hes just really good at making it look much harder than it is. Rumours state that this guy cannot juggle 5 balls ... and i have no problem beliving that.

I don't know, he does three in one hand at one point. That's six-ball speed.

Originally Posted by MAXxyz

Here's an example of a juggler who knows what he's doing (don't be scared away by the beginning)

Gnome - That 3 ball theroist ... it seems that juggl.org is offline, so i can't see it. Could i get the siteswap or something like that? I would really love to try it out. You should try 615 too. Thats a great add-on to the teroist - feels fantastic...

Wow, cool video. Too bad that guy is a bit of a dick about it, but he is pretty good. With him and Jason Garfield, you would think dickishness and juggling ability go hand in hand...

I don't know the siteswap for the three-ball terrorist, but basically you have to pass through two balls before the first one falls every time. I'll try to find it for you at some point, if I can. And thanks, I'll look into this 615.

Sorry for not making any tuts for so long, I'm considering doing the windmills or something tomorrow for you guys. Thanks for the enthusiasm!

Yeah... windmills... no idea what those are, but I can't wait to learn them.

Overnight, I got a lot better, and can do a bunch of whatever the hell I wants.

Any kind of overhand, underarm, claw things, and any kind of two in one hand type thing, all in a little improvised routine thing, usually without dropping! It is sloppy, but I get it done, so now I just need to make it prettier.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

I don't know, he does three in one hand at one point. That's six-ball speed.

Wow, cool video. Too bad that guy is a bit of a dick about it, but he is pretty good. With him and Jason Garfield, you would think dickishness and juggling ability go hand in hand...

I think that both Garfield and Dietz does 5 balls in one hand But still, i can only agree with the thing about them being a bunch of assholes sometimes. Although i understand that they would be a bit frustrated when people like Chriss Bliss steals their thunder, i think that Garfield is going way too far. I would barely be suprised to discover him having killed Chris Bliss

Alright guys, I've finally managed to crank out a new tutorial. This one is for the Windmill and Burke's Barrage, as requested. I tried to be as detailed as possible about how Burke's works, and build up to the full pattern. Any feedback is appreciated!

Originally Posted by Stephent91

Yeah... windmills... no idea what those are, but I can't wait to learn them.

Overnight, I got a lot better, and can do a bunch of whatever the hell I wants.

Any kind of overhand, underarm, claw things, and any kind of two in one hand type thing, all in a little improvised routine thing, usually without dropping! It is sloppy, but I get it done, so now I just need to make it prettier.

Sweet! You should definitely be able to get these two new ones, then! Keep me posted as to whether or not I explained well enough for you to figure it out

Originally Posted by MAXxyz

I think that both Garfield and Dietz does 5 balls in one hand But still, i can only agree with the thing about them being a bunch of assholes sometimes. Although i understand that they would be a bit frustrated when people like Chriss Bliss steals their thunder, i think that Garfield is going way too far. I would barely be suprised to discover him having killed Chris Bliss

Whoa, five in one hand?! That's nuts! I'm working on three-in-one-hand-reverse-cascade, and it's already quite fast. Craziness!

Here's a tutorial I made for Rubenstein's and Romeo's Revenge, if anyone's up to the challenge.

I've got the windmill pretty well, but not Burke's Barrage.

Haven't even seen the last video. Watching now.