tell me about dystopian novels

**lysergic** · 07-11-2008 08:11 AM

which is your favorite and why?

why do you think it's dystopian?

**Ynot** · 07-11-2008 02:01 PM

The Running Man - Richard Bachman (Stephen King)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Running_Man

**harvey123456** · 07-11-2008 02:13 PM

1984. Just wins.

**lysergic** · 07-11-2008 02:59 PM

i'm currently reading a brave new world.

so far it takes the cake but i'm not finished with it yet...

i really liked anthem by ayn rand.
and yes 1984... is just... amazing.

if you liked it you'll love a brave new world. it's very well written.

1984 is a great story, but not as well written. i just like the... feel and tone of it a lot. good ole far. 451... i just love the implications it brings to the table... the dumbing down of society by hollywood bullshit. very appealing to one such as myself.

**apachama** · 07-11-2008 03:07 PM

I love 1984. My current background image is the IngSoc logo.

**Taosaur** · 07-11-2008 05:10 PM

Brave New World, without a doubt. I like the social engineering and how it reflects on real class issues. In general I found BNW less grim and more playful than 1984, and more insightful.

**lysergic** · 07-11-2008 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Taosaur

Brave New World, without a doubt. I like the social engineering and how it reflects on real class issues. In general I found BNW less grim and more playful than 1984, and more insightful.

i like the way it plays off of liberal views while almost all other dystopian novels are based on extreme conservative ideals. it's really refreshing to see someone consider the blurry line between the two. and to see them explore how far is too far. i'd never really thought of it the way she presented this EXTREMELY radical liberal society. it's just like damn... kind of reminds you that every subject that has the least bit of opinion involved in it has at least two sides. regardless of what it is.

i'm liberal by the way.

**dweezil** · 07-11-2008 09:05 PM

do anderoids dream of electric sheep by phillip k dick!

**Croneus** · 07-11-2008 11:26 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government

**seeker28** · 07-13-2008 10:45 AM

I really like "The Female Man." I can't find my copy at the moment, so I'm not sure who it is by.

I read it at a time in my life when the idea of a world without men really appealed to me, but by the end of the book I'd lost all faith in the ability of women to creat a "perfect" world.

**harvey123456** · 07-13-2008 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by seeker28

I really like "The Female Man." I can't find my copy at the moment, so I'm not sure who it is by.

I read it at a time in my life when the idea of a world without men really appealed to me, but by the end of the book I'd lost all faith in the ability of women to creat a "perfect" world.

A world without men? Now that is dystopian.

**Kael Seoras** · 07-13-2008 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Croneus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Government

This is a good read

**lysergic** · 07-14-2008 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by harvey123456

A world without men? Now that is dystopian.

OH MY GOD. i laughed really hard at that. so hard i had to spell, oh my god, out.

**i make it rain** · 07-14-2008 11:43 PM

Ender's Shadow or BNW.

**lysergic** · 07-15-2008 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by i make it rain

Ender's Shadow or BNW.

could you elaborate on ender's shadow? never heard of it.

**seeker28** · 07-15-2008 02:00 AM

Here is the wiki entry on The Female Man. I seriously reccomend it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Female_Man

**Taosaur** · 07-15-2008 03:07 AM

Another less literary favorite of mine is The Man Who Awoke, a pulp novel originally serialized in the '30s. It's kind of a compendium of dystopias, as the protagonist keeps putting himself to sleep for millennia at a time, only to wake each time and find that humanity has fucked up royally, but differently each time.

Originally Posted by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Who_Awoke

The novel might be easliy dismissed as standard pulp fare if it had not presaged concepts popularized decades later: the sexual revolution, green consumerism, strong AI, full-immersion virtual reality as a surgical procedure (like The Matrix), desktop molecular manufacturing, global warming, and stem cell therapies. Many of these have only appeared in most peoples' worldview in the 21st century. This book was recently re-released.

**i make it rain** · 07-15-2008 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by lysergic

could you elaborate on ender's shadow? never heard of it.

It is kind of part of the Ender's Game series. Ender's Game is a science fiction novel in the future where the government genetically makes super soldiers to fight aliens and trains them as children. So it follows a child, Ender. It has multiple sequels. Ender's Shadow isn't really one of them, though. It follows another character before and during Ender's Game instead of continuing the plot line.

Ender's Shadow follows a side character named Bean through his gang experiences on Earth. It is kind of like Mad Max with children but then he goes on to do other things including joining the plot of Ender's Game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender's_Shadow

I haven't read it in a long time so I am not sure how much it focuses on the dystopia on Earth. I enjoyed it, though. Especially the focus on children.

**lysergic** · 07-15-2008 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by Taosaur

Another less literary favorite of mine is The Man Who Awoke, a pulp novel originally serialized in the '30s. It's kind of a compendium of dystopias, as the protagonist keeps putting himself to sleep for millennia at a time, only to wake each time and find that humanity has fucked up royally, but differently each time.

this book sounds really cool. i'm gonna check it out... no pun intended.

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