WILD vs DILD

[Tsukin]

For those of you who have had both WILD'S and DILD'S, which in your opinions would you say is the more vivid and clear one, and the one that tends to last longer? What are the ups and downs of each method? etc

[Seeker]

I can tell no real difference in the vividness of either. The only difference that I've found is just the fact that they induce the LD differently. After you are in the LD, things are the same.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Tsukin For those of you who have had both WILD'S and DILD'S, which in your opinions would you say is the more vivid and clear one, and the one that tends to last longer? What are the ups and downs of each method? etc From my experiance wether I became lucid via DILD or WILD they were the same. Not meaning the level of lucidity could not very in both. But rather that when I became lucid it felt as all lucid dreams do. To use WILD would be more effective if one could master the technique. You could seemingly use that technique to become lucid almost everynight. Dream intiated lucid dreams you have to rely on various factors to becmoe lucid. Making there much more room for chance to be involved. Although you can do reality checks, dream signs and other things, you still have to rely on the chance that your mind will recognize that you are dreaming. In a WILD you in a sense don't give it a chance for happenstance, when effective.

[Gothlark]

[quote]From my experiance wether I became lucid via DILD or WILD they were the same. Not meaning the level of lucidity could not very in both. But rather that when I became lucid it felt as all lucid dreams do. To use WILD would be more effective if one could master the technique. You could seemingly use that technique to become lucid almost everynight. Dream intiated lucid dreams you have to rely on various factors to becmoe lucid. Making there much more room for chance to be involved. Although you can do reality checks, dream signs and other things, you still have to rely on the chance that your mind will recognize that you are dreaming. In a WILD you in a sense don't give it a chance for happenstance, when effective. I agree for the most part. Some find that WILD can make you feel your body while you're in the lucid, but they probably hadn't fully entered the dream. I would say that they're the same, except for the way you induce them. I don't really do WILD too often, but I've found a way to DILD every night, several times a night. So, if you really know what you're doing with DILD, it's probably better than WILD as far as getting lucid in the first place is concerned. With WILD you have a chance of losing lucidity still, some think that they're out of their body or just lost their logic regardless of shifting from awake to asleep and on top of that, you have to interrupt your sleep cycle. DILD you just have to know what you're doing and you can be lucid all you want without messing up your sleep.

[Howie]

When you fall asleep your conscious mind goes asleep as well. Unless envoked otherwise, correct? So how do you take this order and make it a system not of some chance? You can prepare yourself and condition your mind for a DILD but I do not understand how you could incite or induce a DILD?

[Shlumpeet]

My WILDs have been much more vivid, and I've had two that felt like they were about 4 hours long when I took a 20 minute nap.

[Gothlark]

Originally posted by Howetzer When you fall asleep your conscious mind goes asleep as well. Unless envoked otherwise, correct? So how do you take this order and make it a system not of some chance? You can prepare yourself and condition your mind for a DILD but I do not understand how you could incite or induce a DILD? It's rather simple. I've found a way to make my consciousness trigger at the beginning of each dream. It's simply a matter of carrying over the memory of falling asleep to your dreams. It's easier than it sounds. Just a matter of setting the start of a dream as a mental trigger to remember falling asleep. Rather easy and effective. That's part of my method, at least.

[Tsukin]

Is there a thread anywhere on these forums that explains your method? I'd really like to try it out

[Gothlark]

Originally posted by Tsukin Is there a thread anywhere on these forums that explains your method? I'd really like to try it out Yes, in the tutorials section under Confidence and Dream Feeling Induced Lucid Dream. I'm hoping that it will work for others as well as it does me, but it's sort of an abstract flow of things so it's tough to teach it to others.

[Asthmaticape]

Thought: maybe DILDs have a chance of being shorter seeing as how they're induced mid-dream (sometimes), and therefore mid REM period. Usually WILDs are induced when you have an optimal situation for them, i.e. when REM periods are the longest.

[Howie]

Originally posted by Asthmaticape Thought: maybe DILDs have a chance of being shorter seeing as how they're induced mid-dream (sometimes), and therefore mid REM period. Usually WILDs are induced when you have an optimal situation for them, i.e. when REM periods are the longest. I thought the REM stage is usually longer after your intial 4 or 5 hrs of sleep. Each times progessivliy getting longer. I am going to have to try that Gothlark; Confidence and Dream Feeling Induced Lucid Dream. I think an abstract view we could all use from timt to time.