Purebreds WBTB DEILD Tutorial / Lucid Dreams regularly

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Originally Posted by Spyguy

Yeah, I read and tried it too. Didn't work out too great for me, but I failed to do it flawlessly. Every time I analyzed my attempts, found problems, solved them, had others, solved them, had the old probs, etc. I probably didn't try it for long enough though. I modified it a bit and added some stuff that works for me, and now I get my LD's (almost) nightly :D

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Tell us more, what exactly did you add so it's effective to you?

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Originally Posted by CallmeSkarr

I'm not 100% sure i got this so correct me if i'm wrong.
1. Wake up after 4-6 hours of sleep
2. walk around for a while(have a drink or something)
3.get back into bed with a mantra (not future tense)
4.lie completely still
5. either observe eyelids, imaine rubbing hands etc.

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Yes. It's pretty much everything sumed up. :)

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Originally Posted by Spyguy

Yeah, I read and tried it too. Didn't work out too great for me, but I failed to do it flawlessly. Every time I analyzed my attempts, found problems, solved them, had others, solved them, had the old probs, etc. I probably didn't try it for long enough though. I modified it a bit and added some stuff that works for me, and now I get my LD's (almost) nightly :D

Just in case it wasn't clear initially btw, the techniques listed here are not the only ones. Read the book to see them all, it would've been impossible for Purebred to tell literally everything from the book here. It is a great tutorial though :D

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I'm glad you had success. I did too.
There is soooo much written in the book and I wrote down just the most important things. :roll:

Is it important to wake up on your own? Or can I use an alarm clock to wake me up?

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Originally Posted by xspectrum

Is it important to wake up on your own? Or can I use an alarm clock to wake me up?

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You can use alarm clock for WBTB, but when you go back to bed witj an intention to get conscious awakening, you shouldn't use alarm clock. It makes you too alert.

It said you qouted me.. whut?

why thank you, last night after reading this i attempted it.
Lucid Dream count +1
thank you

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Originally Posted by CallmeSkarr

why thank you, last night after reading this i attempted it.
Lucid Dream count +1
thank you

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Tell me more about your experience. :shadewink:

So many wolf avatars *head explodes*

Nice guide, Purebred, like the emphasis on actual ways of re-entering the dream, good adaptation of Raduga's techniques :)

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Originally Posted by Purebred

Open up the new book of SOBT and ctrl+f LucidDreaming. you can find my experiences, which were posted in the Dream Jourbal of Dreamviews too. :)
Wow. Tell me more about that screaming technique of yours.

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It's basically just thinking something or imagine a sound, if it feels vivid just imagine another sound and then another sound and the volume of that sound will get amplified.
But I imagine myself saying different things first and when it feels like I am actually talking I start imagine other sounds and then I separate.

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Originally Posted by Csorax

Tell us more, what exactly did you add so it's effective to you?

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To begin with, I combined it with ADA. The rest of the modification is a bit hard to explain, but I'll try anyway :P WHen lying still after a wakeup, I go into something that is a bit similiar to the free-floating state of mind. I use the technique that I use to initially fall asleep (signature for the thread, it is a bit much to explain here), except for the fact that instead of fully throwing the conciousness away, I start visualizing the dream I had earlier, or the room I sleep in or something (which makes it a more simple form of DEILD than roulating a lot of techniques). The tricky part is to not just try to see the dream/the room/..., but actually feel it, and walk around in it, as if you are already there. Without moving your real body ofcourse.
The last part is more of a mindset and stuff, but I'm probably going to make a thread on that soon enough, because it would take me a seriously long time to post it here. I'll send you the link when I've done it, because it might take a while.

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Originally Posted by Purebred

Tell me more about your experience. :shadewink:

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Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

So many wolf avatars *head explodes*

Nice guide, Purebred, like the emphasis on actual ways of re-entering the dream, good adaptation of Raduga's techniques :)

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I set an alarm for 6 hours after i started to sleep, when i awoke i took a few minutes to wake up abit while just lying there in my bed.
I kept my thoughts on lucid dreaming and a mantra, i kept still and waited to fall asleep but then i started to feel as if there was someone in the room with me but i am aware of this happening on certain occasions to some people. I saw abit of a lightshow and at that time i decide to imagine i was rubbing my hands. After a few moments i could see my hands so i realized i was dreaming. I could still feel as if someone was in my room with me and actually there were.........well i could go on to talk about my dream but thats not what you want to hear.


Yes there are alot of wolf avatars, this is becaue Wolves Are Awesome.

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Originally Posted by Choi

It's basically just thinking something or imagine a sound, if it feels vivid just imagine another sound and then another sound and the volume of that sound will get amplified.
But I imagine myself saying different things first and when it feels like I am actually talking I start imagine other sounds and then I separate.

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Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.

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WHen lying still after a wakeup, I go into something that is a bit similiar to the free-floating state of mind..

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In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha :shadewink:

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The tricky part is to not just try to see the dream/the room/..., but actually feel it, and walk around in it, as if you are already there. Without moving your real body ofcourse.

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There is a technique like this too. :P

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Originally Posted by Purebred

Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.

In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha :shadewink:

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Which book do you mean? The SOBT book?

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Originally Posted by Spyguy

To begin with, I combined it with ADA. The rest of the modification is a bit hard to explain, but I'll try anyway :P WHen lying still after a wakeup, I go into something that is a bit similiar to the free-floating state of mind. I use the technique that I use to initially fall asleep (signature for the thread, it is a bit much to explain here), except for the fact that instead of fully throwing the conciousness away, I start visualizing the dream I had earlier, or the room I sleep in or something (which makes it a more simple form of DEILD than roulating a lot of techniques). The tricky part is to not just try to see the dream/the room/..., but actually feel it, and walk around in it, as if you are already there. Without moving your real body ofcourse.
The last part is more of a mindset and stuff, but I'm probably going to make a thread on that soon enough, because it would take me a seriously long time to post it here. I'll send you the link when I've done it, because it might take a while.

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Seems interesting.. I will try that some time. Thx :)

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Which book do you mean? The SOBT book?

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Exactly.

And on which page? Can't find it myself, sorry http://www.bf-games.net/forum/style_...ult/lalala.gif

It's when he is talking about how to enter Lucid Dream with so called "Direct techniques" (WILD). He is mentioning and describing "free-floating state of mind" or something similar. :shadewink:

Well gladys, last night i've became lucid with a WILD technique. It didnt' last very long, but it was sure long enough to drive around in ford mustang like a crazy-ass maniac. I will definitely try this again. :)

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Originally Posted by Csorax

Well gladys, last night i've became lucid with a WILD technique. It didnt' last very long, but it was sure long enough to drive around in ford mustang like a crazy-ass maniac. I will definitely try this again. :)

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A WILD technique from Radugas book? :)

I woke up in the middle of the night, but I moved so I'll have to try again tonight.

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Originally Posted by Purebred

A WILD technique from Radugas book? :)

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Not really, it's the "white dot technique" from exploring the world of lucid dreaming book.
In fact, I wasn't really trying. I just told myself about 5 times that I will LD tonight, then went to sleep. When I woke up randomly in the night, I thought "why not trying the white dot technique, if I am already awake ". Well, that was where the magic started. :)

But I'm a bit sceptical if this works out again this night.

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Originally Posted by Csorax

Not really, it's the "white dot technique" from exploring the world of lucid dreaming book.
In fact, I wasn't really trying. I just told myself about 5 times that I will LD tonight, then went to sleep. When I woke up randomly in the night, I thought "why not trying the white dot technique, if I am already awake ". Well, that was where the magic started. :)

But I'm a bit sceptical if this works out again this night.

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If you're skeptical then it won't work.

Why is everyone so ready to doubt their own ability? I just don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Purebred

Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.



In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha :shadewink:


There is a technique like this too. :P

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I did read it. Entirely. Three times. He did mention a tranquil mind, but free-floating feels different from just tranquil to me (perhaps it's just my wrong interpretation of the word though). And I didn't say it wasn't a technique, just that it's tricky :P What I meant by the modificaton is that I stopped roulating techniques and started using just the visualization (I think he called the sensory-motor visualization in the book), because I find it really hard to roulate techniques and stuff without thinking, and that takes me out of the right state of mind. I also meant adding the ADA and my way of falling asleep quikly etc.

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Originally Posted by Spyguy

I did read it. Entirely. Three times. He did mention a tranquil mind, but free-floating feels different from just tranquil to me (perhaps it's just my wrong interpretation of the word though). And I didn't say it wasn't a technique, just that it's tricky :P What I meant by the modificaton is that I stopped roulating techniques and started using just the visualization (I think he called the sensory-motor visualization in the book), because I find it really hard to roulate techniques and stuff without thinking, and that takes me out of the right state of mind. I also meant adding the ADA and my way of falling asleep quikly etc.

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Well. You might be right. But don't you think that thinking, when performing a specific technique, brings you laps of consciousness he is mentioning?

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Originally Posted by Purebred

Well. You might be right. But don't you think that thinking, when performing a specific technique, brings you laps of consciousness he is mentioning?

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Theoretically, yes, that would be the case. But I really needed to focus to remember the techniques and how to perform the exactly, and that wakes my brain up. Perhaps I should've just given myself more time to adapt to 1 set of techniques. I'll try slowly adding in other techniques to increase my chances ;)