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      Quote Originally Posted by Choi View Post
      It's basically just thinking something or imagine a sound, if it feels vivid just imagine another sound and then another sound and the volume of that sound will get amplified.
      But I imagine myself saying different things first and when it feels like I am actually talking I start imagine other sounds and then I separate.
      Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.

      WHen lying still after a wakeup, I go into something that is a bit similiar to the free-floating state of mind..
      In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha

      The tricky part is to not just try to see the dream/the room/..., but actually feel it, and walk around in it, as if you are already there. Without moving your real body ofcourse.
      There is a technique like this too.
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      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Purebred View Post
      Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.

      In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha
      Which book do you mean? The SOBT book?


      Quote Originally Posted by Spyguy View Post
      To begin with, I combined it with ADA. The rest of the modification is a bit hard to explain, but I'll try anyway WHen lying still after a wakeup, I go into something that is a bit similiar to the free-floating state of mind. I use the technique that I use to initially fall asleep (signature for the thread, it is a bit much to explain here), except for the fact that instead of fully throwing the conciousness away, I start visualizing the dream I had earlier, or the room I sleep in or something (which makes it a more simple form of DEILD than roulating a lot of techniques). The tricky part is to not just try to see the dream/the room/..., but actually feel it, and walk around in it, as if you are already there. Without moving your real body ofcourse.
      The last part is more of a mindset and stuff, but I'm probably going to make a thread on that soon enough, because it would take me a seriously long time to post it here. I'll send you the link when I've done it, because it might take a while.
      Seems interesting.. I will try that some time. Thx

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      Quote Originally Posted by Purebred View Post
      Wow. Amazing. I'm trying this technique of yours too from now on.



      In the Micheals book chapter, about how to perform WILD, you could find this long time ago. What I mean is, that you didn't modify the techniques, you just haven't read the whole book. Gotcha


      There is a technique like this too.
      I did read it. Entirely. Three times. He did mention a tranquil mind, but free-floating feels different from just tranquil to me (perhaps it's just my wrong interpretation of the word though). And I didn't say it wasn't a technique, just that it's tricky What I meant by the modificaton is that I stopped roulating techniques and started using just the visualization (I think he called the sensory-motor visualization in the book), because I find it really hard to roulate techniques and stuff without thinking, and that takes me out of the right state of mind. I also meant adding the ADA and my way of falling asleep quikly etc.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spyguy View Post
      I did read it. Entirely. Three times. He did mention a tranquil mind, but free-floating feels different from just tranquil to me (perhaps it's just my wrong interpretation of the word though). And I didn't say it wasn't a technique, just that it's tricky What I meant by the modificaton is that I stopped roulating techniques and started using just the visualization (I think he called the sensory-motor visualization in the book), because I find it really hard to roulate techniques and stuff without thinking, and that takes me out of the right state of mind. I also meant adding the ADA and my way of falling asleep quikly etc.
      Well. You might be right. But don't you think that thinking, when performing a specific technique, brings you laps of consciousness he is mentioning?
      My opinion:
      *Lucid Dreams, OBEs, Astral Projections are one and the same.
      *There are no levels of lucidity. Quality changes if you apply some deepening.
      *Lucid Dreams do not last more than 20 minutes.
      *Wolves are beautiful.
      DEILD + WBTB tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/purebr...ularly-127873/

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      Quote Originally Posted by Purebred View Post
      Well. You might be right. But don't you think that thinking, when performing a specific technique, brings you laps of consciousness he is mentioning?
      Theoretically, yes, that would be the case. But I really needed to focus to remember the techniques and how to perform the exactly, and that wakes my brain up. Perhaps I should've just given myself more time to adapt to 1 set of techniques. I'll try slowly adding in other techniques to increase my chances

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      I usually go to bed at like 10-10 30 and i have to wake up at 6 30 am on weekdays. That leaves me about 8 to 8 1/2 hours of sleep. Last night, I went to sleep at 10 30 and set like 4 alarms around 3 40, 3 50, 4 00, and 4: 05 because I wanted to make sure I'd be waken up. I woke up by myself at like 3 30 and went to the bathroom, got a sip of water, and stretched while repeating and doing the things to get my motivation up. So it took me about 10 minutes to go back to sleep, and then I just never woke up in the window of opportunity that I had until my alarm clock went off for me to actually get up. So I guess my question would be, how would you make sure that you awaken after doing the WBTB?

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