WILD-trouble geting past vibrations

[pytis]

Whenever i try wild now it seems i can get to the vibrations but i cantget past em. and its like the main door of WILD.anyone have any tips on how to get past the vibrations? when i get to the vibrations i emty my mind and think of NOTHING! but im exited that the vibrations started and its like i stop breating in my mind i cant seem to do anything else and when they end im like "crap i just wasted an hour" i give up for the day and go to bed! any tips?

[plobable]

try to stay calm and breathe casualy :/ dunno

[Replicon]

I'm having a similar problem. This morning, for instance, once I got super relaxed, I could get to vibrations in a matter of seconds, but no matter how intense they were, they always stopped. And I'm calm and relaxed. Maybe I'm worried about failure, which paradoxically makes me fail hehe. I'm also curious about what I'm supposed to do with my breathing. I find I start breathing a bit harder than usual once I get vibratin'... but I try to slow it down and take deep breaths, like when relaxing, but then, I think I end up focusing on it too much, and focusing on something real in the waking body might push me away from the dream state (?)... So yeah, someone tell me how to breathe already lol. As for other stuff, I think I'll focus on my other senses as well... I always try to visualize something... maybe if I also imagined wind blowing in my face or something like that.... It felt so natural the one time I got it right that I don't know how I did it haha.

[pytis]

I guess it just takes practice and experimentation i think if you TRY to get passed the vibrations than your not relaxed its hard! anyone ever had this problem and got passed it?

[pytis]

I guess it just takes practice and experimentation i think if you TRY to get passed the vibrations than your not relaxed its hard! anyone ever had this problem and got passed it?

[Salmone]

I've had the same problem.. i remember it took me a good 45 mins to an hour to get there tho, then when the vibrations came i didn't know what to do - i wasn't scared i was just like 'woooooooaaaaaaahhhhh duuuuuuuuude!!! 8) ' then i thought that i just needed to open my eyes to get into dreamland but when i did that, i could see the room i was in.. but it REALLY hurt my eyes... then the vibrations went and i woke up.. can't get past that point though.

[pytis]

Dont open your eyes i seem to be geting closer if you relax and stay calm after the vibrations are gone say toyourself this is normal they will reapear again and they do but my mom woke me up during my nap so i didint get farther.

[Replicon]

Originally posted by pytis Dont open your eyes i seem to be geting closer if you relax and stay calm after the vibrations are gone say toyourself this is normal they will reapear again and they do but my mom woke me up during my nap so i didint get farther. Yeah, they come back if you're calm. I'm sure with some practice, even that won't be necessary and it'll work the first time... that'll be wicked sweet

[Replicon]

I got a lot closer this morning (reached the loud audio stage, but then I got excited to be so close and lost it... ack!) When the vibrations went away, I found they started again when I visualized the last image I had in my mind before the first set. So this morning, I had a hemidemisemipseudodream about a TV with little coloured dots on it. So I pictured that, and vibrations restarted. They also restarted when I said "ready? go!" in my head. It wasn't my voice, it was... some random voice i used, dunno where it came from... but interestingly, that's the voice I heard during the loud sounds. Freaky, but hopefully practical.

[jay dawg]

Originally posted by Salmone I've had the same problem.. i remember it took me a good 45 mins to an hour to get there tho, then when the vibrations came i didn't know what to do - i wasn't scared i was just like 'woooooooaaaaaaahhhhh duuuuuuuuude!!! *8) ' then i thought that i just needed to open my eyes to get into dreamland but when i did that, i could see the room i was in.. but it REALLY hurt my eyes... then the vibrations went and i woke up.. * * can't get past that point though. ahhhh the same thing happened to me today. i thought maybe i made it into a dream and opened my eyes and it was SOOOO bright in my room. i did some RCs but no dice as soon as the vibrations start they alert me too much and then they stop as fast as they started! dangit all! the farthest ive ever been in a wild was with a branwave mp3 on. i mean theres got to be a way to complete a wild without it right? noone seems to know?..

[Dew Dust]

I got a lot closer this morning (reached the loud audio stage, but then I got excited to be so close and lost it... ack!) [/b] Loud audio stage? I had something freaky happened to me two nights ago with WILD. I heard a real loud Buzz and intense vibration or what felt like an electrical pulse through my head and ears. Really scared the jeebies out of me. Happened twice. Is that what you mean by loud audio stage? But I am in the same boat as all of you. Get up to the vibrations and then don't know what to do next but ride it out. But as soon as they come, they soon go leaving me awake! I guess if we are all getting the same 'symptoms', we must be doing something right and getting close

[jay dawg]

yea really. with a brainwave mp3 on i was like inches from a full on wild cuz i felt that same thing with your ears. i was REMing and the harder i focused on LDing and HI the harder i felt something like pushing its way into my ears like so freaky. hmmmm

[Replicon]

Originally posted by Dew Dust I got a lot closer this morning (reached the loud audio stage, but then I got excited to be so close and lost it... ack!) Loud audio stage? I had something freaky happened to me two nights ago with WILD. I heard a real loud Buzz and intense vibration or what felt like an electrical pulse through my head and ears. Really scared the jeebies out of me. Happened twice. Is that what you mean by loud audio stage? But I am in the same boat as all of you. Get up to the vibrations and then don't know what to do next but ride it out. But as soon as they come, they soon go leaving me awake! I guess if we are all getting the same 'symptoms', we must be doing something right and getting close [/b] Yes, that's what I meant. I find that when I first get vibrations, I only 'feel' them, and nothing else, and the hard part is to go deeper in. Only when I'm VERY close do I start hearing things, which I've decided to call "the audio stage"