Great WILD explanation from Rtex ^_^

[Jojodi]

I was talking to Rtex tonight asking about WILD and he gave me a great explanation ont he procedure, that i thought hadn't realy been done anywhere else very well... Well' here it is: Session Start (AIM - jojodi7:Rtex11): Mon Jan 26 22:04:40 2004 Rtex11: Yeah Rtex11: And you are? Jojodi7: jojodi... from the board Jojodi7: are u a wild expert? Rtex11: I suspected as much Rtex11: Lol Rtex11: Sorry, I'm out of it tonight Rtex11: Yes Jojodi7: im tryin it for the first time tonight...can u give me some pointers? Rtex11: Ok, I have a few questions first Jojodi7: sure Rtex11: Are you good at visualizing things? Jojodi7: sure Rtex11: Wonderful Jojodi7: ^_^ Rtex11: and have you ever tryed meditating? Jojodi7: yes.. a little Jojodi7: just for relaxation Rtex11: Eihh, better than nothing Jojodi7: heh Rtex11: Now, how much do you know about WILDS? Jojodi7: just some stuff i read ont he forums on basic induction and from an FAQ Rtex11: Ok so you know the best time for doing it is after 4-6 hours of sleep right? Jojodi7: yes Jojodi7: is more ok? Rtex11: Sure Jojodi7: or is that too much Rtex11: the longer you sleep the quicker you enter REM sleep Jojodi7: cool Jojodi7: i slept 8 this last day Rtex11: Theres two ways that i've found Jojodi7: OK. Rtex11: One is more of a beginner way Jojodi7: can u tell me both? Rtex11: and the other is a little harder, but better Rtex11: sure Rtex11: Number one Rtex11: Have some sort of quiet noise in the background Rtex11: a fan, soft music Jojodi7: when i first wake up Jojodi7: ? Rtex11: When your trying to wild Jojodi7: ok Rtex11: Something you can concentrate on Jojodi7: sure Rtex11: preferably white noise Rtex11: You know what white noise is right? Jojodi7: lol yes.. proceed Rtex11: Awesome Rtex11: Oh and btw, My name is Joel Jojodi7: brandon Rtex11: Anyhow, if you have some kind of noise going, its easier to stay awake and focus on it Jojodi7: ok Rtex11: Which is a problem most people encounter Rtex11: However, if you have noise going, lucidity tends to be less stable. Rtex11: Not as solid, if you will Jojodi7: ok Rtex11: But w/o noise, its harder to get to the dreaming state Jojodi7: ok Rtex11: My advice, would be to start with noise going Rtex11: and then gradually use it less and less Jojodi7: ok Jojodi7: cool.. go on Rtex11: Anyhow, to the actual process Rtex11: You've seen hypnogogic imagery right? Jojodi7: ..please explain what exactly that is Jojodi7: i think i have an idea Rtex11: ok Rtex11: Have you ever looked at a bright light Jojodi7: is it when u have your eyes closed and you see things in the blacknes? Rtex11: then looked away and closed your eyes? Rtex11: you see multi-colored stuff. . . Jojodi7: ya Jojodi7: what i said.. is that also it? Rtex11: Thats basicly what it is Jojodi7: ok.. cool go on Rtex11: The most important thing, which also doubles as the hardest thing, is to observe it, but not get attached to it Jojodi7: just watch it? Rtex11: What I mean by attached is that sometimes when you see a picture, you get too "into" it, and it goes away Jojodi7: ya i know exactly what u mean Rtex11: Usually it starts out with something simple Jojodi7: that doesnt sound so hard Rtex11: Like dots Jojodi7: ya Rtex11: or blocks Jojodi7: i see people and things all the time Rtex11: Gradually it gets more complex Rtex11: Right Jojodi7: cool Rtex11: Eventually it evoles into entire scenes Jojodi7: keep going Rtex11: But everything is still unclear like a mirage Jojodi7: im sorry (im sick) im going to get some water really quick.. keep explaining Rtex11: This is the worst time, because you can see the dream, but you are also aware of your physical body Rtex11: Ok Rtex11: Just be patient and don't try to make anything happen Rtex11: Eventually everything will start to clear up, and you'll be dreaming. Rtex11: Be careful that you remember to know that your dreaming Rtex11: its easy to forget when your concentrating on other stuff Rtex11: What I just explained is one way people enter dreams, but not everyone transitions the same way Jojodi7: ok Rtex11: For me, I see the imagery Jojodi7: thanx for keeping on Rtex11: np Jojodi7: (i hate colds ^_^) Jojodi7: do u do it every night? Rtex11: then all of the sudden, I feel like I'm flying/falling in zero gravity Rtex11: then its like a 4 inch screen, then BOOM 50 inch tv screen Rtex11: then Wham! real life Jojodi7: cool ^_^ Rtex11: thats the closest I can come to explain what happens Rtex11: Its very sudden Rtex11: and jarring Jojodi7: it like zooms in closer? Rtex11: more like, explodes into a bigger screen Jojodi7: wow

[Seeker]

Thanks to jojodi and rtex for this very informative post! Just wish I could get the hang of it! All I've got for my efforts so far are big bags under my eyes the next morning!

[Hobbes]

I've been LDing for awhile now (with only one full LD), maybe a year and I still haven't tried WILD. But this is honestly the most well-explained technique that I've ever heard. Maybe I'll try it tonight.

[Seeker]

Hope you get it! Good luck!

[Lowercase Society]

Well thats pretty much it! Rtex has been the one always talking about WILD expiriences, he's got it down pretty well Thanks for the info jopo!

[theunknowndreamer]

hmm maybe I will try it again after reading this. But I am wondering something... Are the LD's between WILD MILD and just plain LD's different? Like do they feel different or are they about the same?

[Seeker]

Cannot answer from personal experience, but I am 95% sure that an LD is an LD, regardless of how you induce it. Maybe one of you WILD ones can answer for sure??

[djv]

Originally posted by theunknowndreamer hmm maybe I will try it again after reading this. But I am wondering something... Are the LD's between WILD MILD and just plain LD's different? Like do they feel different or are they about the same? I'd say in general an LD is an LD. The only difference for me is that my WILD's have been at a higher lucidity level because I go in conscious and am able to maintain that level of consciousness better. Sometimes though I am too concsious of my RL surroundings and I wake up earlier than I would like because of something like the A/C coming on or a creaking noise from the house - things that normally wouldn't wake me up.

[CT]

Argh, now I want to wild more... heh.