HILD isn't working for me. any suggestions?

Hi recently i've been kinda insomniac and can only sleep around 4-5 AM. i've been kinda tired tbh.
so i tried HILD last night for the first time to see if i could relax and enter a meditation state. i played an hypnosis youtube
video with earphones and my phone next to me. i tried to follow the voice and it's instructions. but i couldn't
relax and would always feel the urge to move my fingers and toes. i always feel that urge when i go to sleep
so it's nothing unusual. but i feel i can't enter in a meditate state like that. i tried to visualize everything
the voice told me to, but i just couldn't enter in a deep meditate state.
I guess since my sleep schedule is all messed up, that doesn't help either.
what do you guys think? is it just a matter of practice or any other issue?

With the temperature there recently I'm not surprised you've had poor sleep... It's one of the reasons I'm grateful for living where I do now.

Anyway, I have the same issue as you, where if I'm trying to do certain meditation-like stuff (such as WILDs) I find certain things like fingers and toes (and especially throat) very distracting. Sometimes it helps if I try to stretch and crack them first, though it doesn't always help. The throat thing really annoys me but I haven't found a solution to that one apart from avoiding certain drinks beforehand.

Maybe it is a matter of practice, but I would certainly advise you to try and take it easy on yourself given the other issues you are having. We are not in full control of a lot of factors that affect sleep, especially if you have a condition that affects sleep like me, on top of the external factors. :)

Basically just make sure you don't put your expectation of results too high for how you are currently feeling - like with being exhausted, you can't expect to get a lot of focus in that state.

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Originally Posted by DarkestDarkness

With the temperature there recently I'm not surprised you've had poor sleep... It's one of the reasons I'm grateful for living where I do now.

Anyway, I have the same issue as you, where if I'm trying to do certain meditation-like stuff (such as WILDs) I find certain things like fingers and toes (and especially throat) very distracting. Sometimes it helps if I try to stretch and crack them first, though it doesn't always help. The throat thing really annoys me but I haven't found a solution to that one apart from avoiding certain drinks beforehand.

Maybe it is a matter of practice, but I would certainly advise you to try and take it easy on yourself given the other issues you are having. We are not in full control of a lot of factors that affect sleep, especially if you have a condition that affects sleep like me, on top of the external factors. :)

Basically just make sure you don't put your expectation of results too high for how you are currently feeling - like with being exhausted, you can't expect to get a lot of focus in that state.

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yea thats true i also have difficulty with throat and fingertoes.
Other question, how do i know when i'll enter in a trance state?

HILD, Hypnagogic induced lucid dreaming? or Hypnosis induced lucid dreaming?

If you want Hypnosis Induced Lucid Dreaming, then I'll refer you to this as you can use it to hypnotize yourself really. :P
https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...-lucidity.html

All you would really have to do for that is have a conversation with yourself as you relax and then as you do the mantra. Something like "As I fall into a deep relaxing state, my subconscious is open to receiving my conscious interests for lucid dreaming"
Then for saying the mantra, act like you are talking to yourself, outside of yourself (like you are talking to a different person)
"You are lucid in all of your dreams. The dreams you have are vivid, fun, playful, and exciting"
Say it all in a calming, provocative way.

BUTTT if it's Hypnagogic induced Lucid Dreaming, then it's a bit different. HILD in that sense, is much like a WILD, but using hallucinations/hypnagogic imagery as an anchor. Everytime you find yourself in a hallucination/seeing the images, bring your focus back to your breathing, it is much like meditation.

You can find out about inducing trance states, here:
https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...ml#post2230117

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Originally Posted by Skipper1100

HILD, Hypnagogic induced lucid dreaming? or Hypnosis induced lucid dreaming?

If you want Hypnosis Induced Lucid Dreaming, then I'll refer you to this as you can use it to hypnotize yourself really. :P
https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...-lucidity.html

All you would really have to do for that is have a conversation with yourself as you relax and then as you do the mantra. Something like "As I fall into a deep relaxing state, my subconscious is open to receiving my conscious interests for lucid dreaming"
Then for saying the mantra, act like you are talking to yourself, outside of yourself (like you are talking to a different person)
"You are lucid in all of your dreams. The dreams you have are vivid, fun, playful, and exciting"
Say it all in a calming, provocative way.

BUTTT if it's Hypnagogic induced Lucid Dreaming, then it's a bit different. HILD in that sense, is much like a WILD, but using hallucinations/hypnagogic imagery as an anchor. Everytime you find yourself in a hallucination/seeing the images, bring your focus back to your breathing, it is much like meditation.

You can find out about inducing trance states, here:
https://www.dreamviews.com/attaining...ml#post2230117

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i believe it's the first option to hypnose myself into a deep meditation state
i read i have to be in a trance state to be able to go to the dream world. something like that
but i don't know how will i know when im in a transe state