is HI guaranteed?

[Rapscallion]

I've tried WILDing at least 30 times without success, and i've got sleep paralysis 75% of the time, and felt vibrations maybe twice. I've never seen hypagogic imagery. Does it happen to everyone?

[Sythix]

That happens to me too, I've been WILDing for a while now and never seen HI at all.......

[wombing]

not everyone gets HI frequently. i'd say about 60% of my WILDs involve no HI at all. i simply wait until "i pop out". the rest of the i experience HI. it certainly isn't required to WILD..

[Sythix]

But if no HI is experienced how do you know you're close at all? What do you mean by pop out...is there like a feeling you get or something?

[Rapscallion]

I'm wondering the same thing Sythix asked.

[wombing]

well, when i say pop out i literally mean my 'dream body" pops out. i've got sleep paralysis 75% of the time, and felt vibrations maybe twice[/b] this sentence makes me think we might have different definitions of SP. for myself, the vibrations ARE the SP. sometimes when i wake up i feel vibrations/buzzing/tingling right away, sometimes only after lying there for half an hour. the vibrations can be fairly weak, or limited to one area of my body. so, i fully relax and imagine waves of the vibrations intensifying and coursing through my entire body. after awhile i am fully in sleep paralysis, and vibrating at a high rate. whereupon if i see HI i passively witness until it forms a dream scene with myself incorportated. if i do not see HI (the majority) i stay relaxed and avoid getting distracted by thoughts. usually i first feel 'phantom limbs", such as a leg or arm 'floating' above where my actual physical limb is positioned. eventually my 'dream body' separates completely, usually like a cork coming to the surface of water when its been submerged beneath. i feel myself pop out of my body and to the side, and take the lucid from there.... sometimes when my dream body separates i find myself in another scene, even though there was no previous HI, though this is rare... i am curious as to what you consider SP, when there are no vibrations/buzzing/tingling/shuddering/etc..

[Rapscallion]

Well I guess when I say sleep paralysis, I mean the tingling feeling thats spreads until you feel it all over you. Rarely, that escalates into twitches or vibrations that are more severe.

[Neruo]

I never really have HI. Never really extreme atleast. However, I never fully did a WILD... But I do think it's really person-dependent.