how long does that usualy take?
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can somone give an example of how they use anchoring with lucid dreaming, i understand the concept, but i dont really know how to apply it to lucid dreaming.
thanks
i use my breath as an anchor for example, I think you can pick any thought or feeling or image you want and if I'm not mistaken, the purpose of an anchor is to focus your attention on one thing so you can stay conscious. Without an anchor I always lose track of my thoughts and I forget I was trying to stay lucid :i
In addition to what ChaybaChayba said, you can use reverse blinking as an anchor (or at least I do). I use it to a point where I am so relaxed I can fall asleep within a minute or two (this is why WILDing in the morning is best--I could not do this before bed). Then my mind is still concentrated on LDing, and within a minute or two I hit SP. Once there I take 3 breaths and try to make it feel as though a vortex is either by my feet or by my head, and that I'm getting sucked up. This usually gets me into a dream.
ok, i kinda see.
i thought though that an anchor was an assosiationg thing, so if every time i (attempt) WILD i listen to a particular piece of music, or a particular body action, so that when i next do that body action etc, it will help to trigger the WILD.
i have only tried this in the morning once. but i did the blinking thing, as long as i could, until i stopped without realising, should i not be doing that. should i do it until i feels very relaxed, then make a concious decision to stop, but then what?, what you said, snoop, about the vortex thing sounds good.
hmmm, so tonight (tommorow morning) i will try it, i guess its all about getting the timming right, if i stop blinking to early i will be to 'active' and if i stop it to late, i will be to drowsey to make any concious decisions.
ill let you know how it goes. thanks a bunch chaps
this is a brilliant technique, thankyou!
Hey guys, was wondering.. I have these little glow in the dark stars, that I can clearly see at nightime on my ceiling. (it was the previous owners, and I cant be botherd taking it down). Would that be an alright object to focus on?
and does the duration of the eye-open-ness depend on if I fully focus on the object? or just a normal "open-close" instead of a "open-focus-close"??
this sounds really awesome/interesting. I am going to go try it out now!
sounds cool. I will try tonight.
I have a question though. Can it be used at bedtime, or must I WBTB?
I love this technique. thanks fo posting.
A fresh approach to WILDING....I will try. So fresh...is that minty??
Hello, I have recently made many attempts to WILD, but every time I tried, I either ended up falling asleep unconsciously or I could lay there forever, but using this technique I fall asleep unconsciously rather than being unable to sleep. It's a good relaxing technique, thank you. I just don't even get to see the HI, I just lay there, feel comfortable, trying to keep the thought that I am to remain conscious. Then I start hearing a constant high-tone beeping sound in my ears. I lay there for several more minutes, and the next thing I experience is waking up in the morning. It happens very often, what can I do? Thanks in advance. :)
They say it's hard to WILD right before the regular night sleep. It would be easier if you had already taken a 4-5 hour sleep and then try it...
Or have less sleep during a night than usual and then try a nap some time during a day.
(but hay, I have only had one WILD - which actually used reverse blinking)
I've tried a WBTB wild (after 5 hours) and I've had a weird experience. After I woke up, I spent about 40 minutes reading about lucid dreaming. Then I attempted WILD - I was laying there for around 1h, I was falling asleep and waking up, but after I've woken up, I haven't realized that I could use that for WILDing, and I continued the WILD attempt (as though I had already lost consciousness partially)... Then after that hour, I thought that I couldn't WILD anymore, felt uncomfortable, and even though I know that it's a sign that the dream-state is close, I somehow just didn't think of it back then...
I will try this technique tonight! :D
So, i just blink every five seconds whilst going to sleep. And then HI should kick in then i close my eyes and start seeing the HI and then it goes on from there?
Also you can reverse blink your eyes when you feel your self dazing off and when you are falling unconscious. I combine these blinks with auto suggestions "I remain awake as my body falls asleep" or "mind awake/body asleep" and that seems to work very well.
I really enjoy this technique because it gives your eyes something to do while transitioning in and through SP. It is very relaxing as well.
As for anchoring it is about associations. An example would be that say everytime you lay down think of going to sleep. Why? Because maybe every time you went to her house she gave you one. So anchoring is creating associations between two seemingly unrealated things.
Another way to understand anchoring is to think of it in terms of daily rituals. When you get dressed you feel more alert or energized. When you go to bed you take of your pants.
Now, if you violate one of your rituals this causes discomfort. For example try going to sleep with your pants or shoes on. You should be able to go to sleep but when you feel shoes on you just won't fall asleep unless there are stronger influences at hand ex: alcohol, drugs etc. This is because we associate shoes on and laying down with rest and shoes off and laying down with going to sleep.
So, if laying down with shoes on means rest but not sleep then heres an opportunity to practice inducing trance because we are less likely to fall asleep than had we done it with shoes off. Likewise we could apply a certain signal every time we are deeply relaxed and then anytime we want to be that relaxed at will we use our ritual or conditioning with signal to help us experience our associated phenomenon.
I tried this technique right after reading...Well I only used part of it. Right after I read this I sat there doing reverse blinking and twitching at the same time and I got really relaxed, and it felt like I was almost sinking into myself. I am going to try reverse blinking and twitching at the same time from now on!
Major bump! this needs to be talked about more. Seems solid gonna give it a go.
what is the bump?
last post was 2 months ago :3
ok
gonna try this technique hopefully it works!! will post results!
Im trying this tonight for sure!!!!!
So, I tried the reverse blinking, and after a while, a kind of pressure formed in my chest and then moved up to my neck. Has that happened to anyone before?