Bump. I haven't been here in a long time and this topic has been buried to the core of the Earth - I think this helped people out so!
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Bump. I haven't been here in a long time and this topic has been buried to the core of the Earth - I think this helped people out so!
There are so many relaxation techniques out there. Sometimes when I'm doing one another part of me is wondering if I should try another one.
Do you think it is important to stick to one or two types of techniques during each "sleep session" or its ok to jump around between different techniques?
I think its important to stick to one, find out how long you should try it out for and see how it effective it is on you. If nothing happens you then move on to others, but you should definitely give everything a chance and see how it goes but give them time... It's just the same for lucid dreaming, if you start WILD one day and it doesn't work on the first try and you move onto DILD and so on, you'll never really get anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by TalkingHead
sythix:
If it was your post some time ago, regarding your art work, I would like to look at them again. I can't seem to find them. I had them yesterday, I believe it was March 2006. You talked aboud image shack, etc. and you had a few of your art for viewing. Excuse me if I have the wrong member.
Thanks, sea bee
Sythix, I just wanted to let you know that I use reverse blinking all the time when meditating, falling asleep, or WILDing.
I'm surprised that it's not mentioned more on these forums. For me it is the perfect combination to induce an LD.
Clears your mind of thoughts
Gives you a repetative motion to focus on
Keeps the visual section of your brain stimulated
Disorientates you
Simple to learn, easy for beginners
The biggest benefit is that it does not use your imagination to try to clear your imagination. Thinking about something to try to clear your thoughts is a little counter productive unless you know what you are doing. Reverse blinking is always one of the first tools I give someone to teach them deep meditation, WILD, ect.
whats HI mean?
I tried the reverse blinking for the first time last night. I hadn't slept previously - was just going to bed normally so I didn't have high hopes.
However... after probably only 5 minutes of the reverse blinking I heard a loud sound - almost like a symbol crashing behind my head. I think this may have been the beginning of sleep paralysis (I was feeling more relaxed and detached from my body than I ever have before). This was quite exciting since I've never experienced SP (or for that matter, WILD) before. I got too excited and woke up before anything else happened, but I'm definitely going to be trying this again.
Thank you Sythix!
I have been trying to do mind awake and body asleep lately and have had no success until last night...
I was lying in my bed on my back. I was trying to stay in the third eye which seemed to be working. I slowly became more and more relaxed. I had my radio on quiely which may have helped my mind stay awake.
Then all of a sudden i started getting these weird feelings...Like i was distorted and i was in a very uncomftorable position like I was scrunched up into a ball or something. My neck felt one way and my legs and body all felt like they were in different positions. Anyway this feeling slowly went away and then i got another strang feeling. Like my bed was on a slant. I felt like i should have been sliding off of the bed but instead i felt so heavy lke i was apart of the bed. It was almost like a ride where i felt strapped into the bed as it tipped to the left side. At that point i wondereed if i was parilyzed yet so i moved my fingers and then slowly this feeling started to go away a bit. Then after that feeling driftedoff i got a rush of something moving through my body! It was like a rush of feel good chemicals or something. At first i felt really dizzy and and lightheaded and kinda scared but then the feeling kept intensifying to the point where i was so scared that i had to get up! The only thing i can compare it to is the feeling when your sick and you want to throw up but only a bit different and more powerful!
If anyone knows what was happening i would greatly appreciate you telling me please!?
You're there! Congratulations! That's your body falling asleep / falling into a trance state. Didn't expect it to be so intense? Remember that you are safe, and that this is the state you have been working so hard to achieve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nurble17
I like the description of it feeling like "you're sick and you want to throw up".
If you can relax through the disorientation for a bit longer, you should reach a more peaceful state. Read around in other people's descriptions of WILD and you will see they have similar experiences.
yay, i'm alive! After another long hiatus.
I've done WILD before, it wasn't until I experimented with I-Doser was I able to achieve a trance state at any given time. I'm gonna give this a fly tonight and see how goes.
Oh, I should add this in. For me, when I hit trance I usually visualize myself running to get my mind off of feeling normal stuff in the room. Then I'll try to visualize tactile perception (touching grass is a good one). Shortly after this, I hit a very odd state that's not exactly like a WILD where I feel my entire body vibrate, but differently and heartrate increases. Within seconds this subsides and my entire body relaxes, sometimes I notice my eyelids will be twitching at this point.
Now.. for WILD I feel sleepy, this I do not.. I feel awake, but I've only experimented 3 times (all successfully). I have had some HI, and at times it feels like I'm detached (like an OBE). Tonight though, I'm going to try to apply this state to induce a lucid dream.
Wish me luck....
Hey man, awesome technique! I read this last night and decided I'd give it a shot. After about 15mins of RB and relaxing my body about 3 times I started to enter SP. It was an awesome feeling! It hit me as I was relaxing my body for the third time. It last about 10-15 secs because I swallowed some saliva and kept doing the RB.
MY question is: should I stopp RB once I feel the SP start to set in or what should I do? Also, I always seem to have to swallow my saliva which seems like it interrupted my SP so do you think sleeping on my side would still allow me to do this technique? another thing is, i didn't get to see any HI :(
Iv'e not quite got the hang of it yet. But it sounds promising.. So ill keep trying :D
Holy shit, it actually worked for me! Thanks for posting this man!:banana::banana::banana:
Thanks for the awesome tutorial m8.
my old teacher told me about a sleeping trick and its like yours ,which is slowly working up the body and relaxing yourself. if done correctly some people can fall asleep in minutes.
This is actually great, the first time I got vibrations. Every time I close my eyes I would see faces, some where kind of scary but then I fell a sleep :embarrassed:. Hopefully it goes well again on my second try and I don't fall a sleep. But at least I got some results.
I tried this earlier and got the sensation of my eyelids not being able to be opened, but once I got to that point, I kept forgetting that I was trying to WILD and began to fall asleep, but then I'd catch myself falling asleep and I'd start over again, haha.
I'm going to try again when I go to sleep tonight. Can't wait!
I still find myself using this tut, haha, great job sythix.
Nice technique i'll try it tonight
I tried this a while, ago. It delivers what it promises.
I never thought I would be the one posting in a tutorial and saying "this worked," but sure as hell, it did! I did the reverse blinking for what felt about 10minutes and stopped, soft vibrations kicked and my feet started to tingle and occasionaly twitch, in my eyes were completely shut and I was seeing bursts of light and my I could feel my eyes moving around fast and my eyelids would occasionaly tense up(Is this what REM is?). To me it felt as If i was laying ontop of warm jello(wierd I know) and I was sinking into my bed. I was trying to envision my dream and put myself into it, but I am pretty sure I either was thinking too much about it and not going with the flow or I was too excited( How could I not be? It felt so unique and awesome). I tried to test myself to see If I was actually in a sleep paralysis by moving my hands, my mind held me back but I tried anyway and it took me a while before I was actually able to do so. I'm going to continue trying this and hopefully I am able to transfer from the SP into a LD( Any pointers on this?). Thanks alot for showing me this and your tutorial is fantastic.
I agree completely. This is such a good technique. Especially the Reverse Blinking. This should be put in the tutorials section. Its that good.
Thank you Sythix.
I agree. This is one of the best WILD tutorials. Its very close to what I do for my WILDs.
I don't use the anchoring. Does anyone have success using the anchoring part of this guide? I've read through the link, but I still don't really understand it. It seems to be similar to setting up post hypnotic suggestions for yourself. Does this really work?
That's the funniest thing I've seen in a couple of days. Seriously, post this in the "Stupidest Ways You've Missed Becoming Lucid" thread... it could get a prize. LMAO. :D :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Xanous
I'm going to definitely try this tonight, I'm sure that it will work. I'll edit this post with my results when I wake up.
ive tried this technique twice....the first time i guess i dont even recall dreaming (which i usually can even if i dont remember what happened in the dream). the second time, after my body went numb (from my feet to my arms) my whole body was twitching...like i was having a seizure. it was really uncomfortable and i had to move which ruined it all....why didthis happen?