I'll try it but I'll probably start laughing and break my WILD. |
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To WILD and to properly imprint your intention to MILD into your memory you need a Mind clear of spontanious, distracting thoughts, preferably completely empty. This goes for pretty much every ILD-technique. Then the intention to dream lucid will perservere untill you are actually in the dreamstate(WILD) or it will be thoroughly remembered again while in the dreamstate. (MILD) |
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Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
I'll try it but I'll probably start laughing and break my WILD. |
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Lucid Tasks: 14
This isn't much of a problem for me since I the only thing on my mind lately is lucid dreaming. |
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Tonight, in the whispers where no one's around
Nothing can stop us now.
I can feel you dreaming of me...
Arnold Mindell is a renowned Energy/process oriented psychologist that has proposed something similar when focusing on symptoms the body is experiencing. But basically, I think your idea is similar because both of you are pointing to the fact that sounds can be derived from chaotic unconscious phenomena with the goal of creating more order out of them. |
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I WILD pretty easily, probably 2-3 times a week, sometimes multiple in a night. But I rarely, if ever, focus on keeping my mind clear. I love to let my mind wander and see where it takes me. The key for me is just making sure I realize I am thinking about these things (meta-thinking?) instead of just letting the thoughts takeover. For me, that seems to keep my mind aware enough to realize when I am entering the first stages of a WILD, then I concentrate on, well, nothing except getting through to the dreamside. |
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This topic is mainly for those that have a hard time staying focussed. If you have no such problems and are able to pul it off you don't need any of this. You can help by telling us how it is you remain undistracted and focussed on lucidity. |
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Last edited by SKA; 06-28-2007 at 11:36 PM.
Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
I know perfectly what you mean, SKA, and I've found myself doing the same! However, it gets to the point where this method keeps me awake too much to enter the dream state! I'm still trying to achieve that delicate balance between distractions and sleep right now. |
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I'm Dreaming
I've only just realized how my mind's "distractions" end up turning into plain old dreams without me realizing it. As others have said, I'm currently trying to balance between letting these thoughts become dreams while still being aware that I need to remain concious of what's happening, so as to drift into the dreamworld. This is perhaps the most difficult part of WILD'ing I'd say. I'm gunna try your technique though! i'll let you know if anything happens |
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"Am I falling asleep, is it all just a dream? When the cars are like water, and the road is like a stream..."
Yeah it is; The trick is to detatch yourself from your own thoughts. Observing them as they pass, while not partaking in them. However you might have little or no trouble doing that. I, and alot of other people around here, do and we're trying to figure out how it's done. I always, involunteerly, get caught up in these thoughts and this causes me to lose awareness and dream nonlucid. I still find it hard to not get caught up in these thoughts or figure out how to stay detatched from them. Allthough i've been a successfull "natural" in my youth, I still have a hard time intentionally inducing lucid dreams due to this awareness-problem. |
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Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
sounds interesting but it would probably just keep me awake because I would be focusing so much on making weird sounds during my spontaneous thoughts. |
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But does anyone actually think verbally, or is that just a trick they use in films? I know I certainly dont think with words. |
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Somethings I think in words and other things I don't. These other things are usually more abstract impulses that contain a huge amount of abstract knowledge and/or feelings. I can think this way and I nfound that if I think like "Hmmm" rather than in words, meaning in wordless meaningfull thought, I have a much lower chance of getting distracted. However I find it hard to think like this and remain undisturbed by vocal spontanious thoughts. |
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Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
Well, one way is to focus on some object, which is what done in virtually all meditation and WILD techniques. ( respiration, counting, mantra, visualization, sensations etc. ). After a lot of practice on a given technique, you get really good at getting into a concentrated state. This is a process which is hard to achieve, but it's possible given enough practice. |
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Last edited by dodobird; 07-09-2007 at 11:58 AM.
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Wow, that's really weird. I think almost COMPLETELY in words most of time. When I think in images and feelings, it most often makes me feel much happier. I dunno, I just never noticed it before! My mind tends to wander a LOT, so maybe this is related! I'm going to try to catch myself thinking in words, i.e. having conversations etc... in my head, and start thinking differently. Maybe this will help stop wandering thoughts? |
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I'm Dreaming
Maybe instead of hushing these thought one could learn to detatch themselves from these thoughts by conecting all these random thoughts with a narrative storyline: As if instead of your thoughts they are lines in a book telling a story. And every "I", "mine" and "me" should be changed into "You", "His" and "He" Let's say these are 2 spontanious thoughts: |
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Last edited by SKA; 07-18-2007 at 11:01 AM.
Luminous Spacious Dream Masters That Holographically Communicate
among other teachers taught me
not to overestimate the Value of our Concrete Knowledge;"Common sense"/Rationality,
for doing so would make us Blind for the unimaginable, unparalleled Capacity of and Wisdom contained within our Felt Knowledge;Subconscious Intuition.
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