Good Techniques For While Falling Asleep

Hi everyone,

I'm in a horrible dry spell, and i'm wondering if there are any techniques I can use while i'm falling asleep at night to induce a lucid dream. In WILD, where I need to set my alarm, I can't because i'll wake up my whole family. I need something I can do before going to sleep or something like that.

Any ideas?

I'm really getting tired of no lucid dreams. I'm in the middle of exams and stuff, but that couldn't be it could it?

What I do in bed before falling asleep, I keep repeating to myself I will remember to do RCs and I affirm that I will become lucid, without focusing too hard on it.
This might not work for everyone though.

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Originally Posted by invadergarf

In WILD, where I need to set my alarm, I can't because i'll wake up my whole family.[/b]

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What do you mean?
Try using a cellphone with a volume loud enough to wake you up,
but low so it doesn't wake your family up.

MILD is probably a goods technique for you. You don't need an alarm to wake you up, because part of the MILD method is telling yourself that you will wake up after every dream period and remembers your dreams, as you're falling asleep. You should then wake up of your own accord, and be able to finish the MILD technique, or even use any other method in conjunction with WBTB (seeing as you're awake anyway.)

You could try the mp3 that tells you your in a dream. Its in the Attaining Lucidity forum. I heard it works. You can use a MP3/CD player with headphones.

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Originally Posted by Hippie

What I do in bed before falling asleep, I keep repeating to myself I will remember to do RCs and I affirm that I will become lucid, without focusing too hard on it.
This might not work for everyone though.
What do you mean?
Try using a cellphone with a volume loud enough to wake you up,
but low so it doesn't wake your family up.
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I don't have a cellphone, and i think something quiet probably won't wake me. Thanks though, I don't usually do RCs, I just used to realise in my dream without them. Maybe I should start...

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Originally Posted by Hippie

MILD is probably a goods technique for you. You don't need an alarm to wake you up, because part of the MILD method is telling yourself that you will wake up after every dream period and remembers your dreams, as you're falling asleep. You should then wake up of your own accord, and be able to finish the MILD technique, or even use any other method in conjunction with WBTB (seeing as you're awake anyway.)
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I'll look into the technique and post back, thanks!

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Originally Posted by Hippie

You could try the mp3 that tells you your in a dream. Its in the Attaining Lucidity forum. I heard it works. You can use a MP3/CD player with headphones.
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I think sleeping with headphones on might be annoying, but i'll try it anyway, thanks!

Ever since I started slitting my wrists my lucid dream count has doubled, but this technique is not as safe as it sounds if you are pregnant or may become pregnant so be careful.

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Originally Posted by jswift

Ever since I started slitting my wrists my lucid dream count has doubled, but this technique is not as safe as it sounds if you are pregnant or may become pregnant so be careful.
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Allow me to be the first to say: WTF?

Slitting your wrists does not help attain lucidity, except perhaps as a placebo, but I can think of much better placeboes than this.

Also, the fact that he's male makes it difficult to understand why you're reasoning that he might be pregnant. It's also quite odd that you offer a health warning against slitting your wrists to just pregnant people (well, pregnant men, even...)

Hmm...looking at jswift's posting history, it seems he also advocates taking '5 ectasy pills within an hour' for lucid dreaming. Oh, and 'pooping in dreams'.

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Originally Posted by jswift

Ever since I started slitting my wrists my lucid dream count has doubled, but this technique is not as safe as it sounds if you are pregnant or may become pregnant so be careful.
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Slitting my wrists? No thanks.

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Originally Posted by jswift

Allow me to be the first to say: WTF?

Slitting your wrists does not help attain lucidity, except perhaps as a placebo, but I can think of much better placeboes than this.

Also, the fact that he's male makes it difficult to understand why you're reasoning that he might be pregnant. It's also quite odd that you offer a health warning against slitting your wrists to just pregnant people (well, pregnant men, even...)

Hmm...looking at jswift's posting history, it seems he also advocates taking '5 ectasy pills within an hour' for lucid dreaming. Oh, and 'pooping in dreams'.
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Ah so he's not serious? I'd hope not, I'm not slitting my wrists, I don't think that would help in lucid dreaming in any way. I'd check his post history, but I don't have time right now...

Any other serious techniques possible? I still haven't looked into the others yet, but it would be good to see all the different options I have so I can choose the best one to try.

uh yea the whole slitting wrist thing is a pretty different way to LD. Grapefruit juice helps to lucid dream for me, whether as a placebo or by whatever is in it. Lucid Crossroads is also a good site for WILD dream lucidity

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Originally Posted by Kerian

uh yea the whole slitting wrist thing is a pretty different way to LD. Grapefruit juice helps to lucid dream for me, whether as a placebo or by whatever is in it. Lucid Crossroads is also a good site for WILD dream lucidity
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Grapefruit juice? Why on earth would that work? Maybe a chemical, vitamin or something in it?

Here's a technique I found for getting out of dry spells...

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Originally Posted by Ev

Here's a technique that is very simple, yet very weird and effective.

I've noticed that after having a great lucid dream I want more of them. (well, duh! :) ) My interest in them peaks, I visit these forums, read, answer questions, etc. My excitement about LDs build up. I go to sleep and use autosuggestion like "I will have a lucid dream tonight". I'm excited about going to sleep.

What usually follows is a dry spell. All this excitement and effort to have another LD seems wasted.

This was until I discovered this technique that is very effective in releasing this energy and effort and actually having a great LDs that reward all the effort you put into LDing.

Here's the technique, it's simple and it works best after a scenario similar to the one described above:

Go to bed, clear your mind. DO NOT THINK about lucid dreaming. DO NOT even say the word lucid dreaming in your head. DO NOT think about dreams or expect anything (if you are actually expecting the LD to happen you are very likely to fail). This "not thinking" is VERY different from completely forgetting about lucid dreaming. You dont think about it yet acknowledge its existence. You acknowledge that you are actually using a technique, but dont think about the technique. You are just going to sleep putting all concern about lucid dreaming, induction techniques, suggestions you usually use, in the back of your mind. They exist but you dont think about them. You are aware of their existence but you do not think about them.
Your mind is free of excitement or expectations.
(Sorry for redundancy, but I have to make this clear).

It's safe to feel confidence in the technique. Everything else must be put aside.

Earlier I used a model that still applies - when you read about LDing you wind up your inner LD spring. As long as you keep winding it up you wont have LDs, but when you use this technique to unwind you will get LDs.

What happens later that night is you have a lucid dream. Usually it is a dream induced LD, but variations occur.

I've used this technique for a few nights in a row. The first couple nights is pretty easy as you just put your faith in the technique. After that, especially if you are successful expectations start to surface and they are bad. Replacing them with confidence and thinking about what you want to do in a LD during the day works well to counter that.


Enjoy and please post here if you have success with this technique.

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-this is a technique by EV

Hope it helps :D

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Originally Posted by towarmforacoat

Here's a technique I found for getting out of dry spells...
-this is a technique by EV

Hope it helps :D
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Yeah, Ev's told me about that technique before, sadly it doesn't seem to work for me, or it hasn't so far... I wish it had though.

Currently i'm writing down dreams i've had every night hoping for lucidity to come back soon.

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Originally Posted by Hippie

Try using a cellphone with a volume loud enough to wake you up,
but low so it doesn't wake your family up.
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My cellphone alarm isn't very good as it start of quite then 5 seconds later is at full volume so wat im gonna try tonight close my door and set my clock radio on a low enough volome

Last week i was thinking of a way to wake up but couldn't use my phone i was pacing around thinking of a way to get up at 4:00 evenually i gave up but hours later to my suprise i woke up at 4 without an alarm
was it possible that i soaked into my mind that i wanted to get up at 4 or was in just a coincidence?

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Originally Posted by Shadow

My cellphone alarm isn't very good as it start of quite then 5 seconds later is at full volume so wat im gonna try tonight close my door and set my clock radio on a low enough volome

Last week i was thinking of a way to wake up but couldn't use my phone i was pacing around thinking of a way to get up at 4:00 evenually i gave up but hours later to my suprise i woke up at 4 without an alarm
was it possible that i soaked into my mind that i wanted to get up at 4 or was in just a coincidence?
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Maybe the want to wake up at 4 just somehow subconsiously made you wake up at four? It's happened to me before a lot of times. I woke up today 2 minutes before my alarm went off and usually wake up a little before my alarm. It's like my mind knows when to wake up when I really want it to (if i'm not waking up early one day, i dont wake up at that time, convenient yes? lol).

Not sure what advice to give this time, I've gotten lazy myself after I broke my first dry spell because I had a couple LDs for "free" soon after.

I go to bed late so the morning light usually wakes me up before I get a full sleep (achieved once the afternoon comes about). Waking up semi-frequently helps in vividness and continuing interrupted dreams. And you can get up without waking anybody.

Get a clock radio if you dont have one then u can adjust the volume just enough to wake you up and you cant go into a lucid dream just as u get into bed im sure u already know that or u could wake up in the morning say 8 set ur alarm then get breakfast and go bak to bed try wild then

I wish I could have a lucid dream as soon as I went to bed though, that would be nice and easy... How long into sleeping should I set my alarm to wake me up? after i've slept for around 6 hours?

6 hours is usually the place to start. I just have a hard time doing it. It is a fine line to ballance, being just awake enough to be Lucid, but not so awake that you can't get back to sleep. Usually, I either fall right back to sleep or I start thinking of everything that I need to do that day and stay awake.

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Originally Posted by carlhungis

6 hours is usually the place to start. I just have a hard time doing it. It is a fine line to ballance, being just awake enough to be Lucid, but not so awake that you can't get back to sleep. Usually, I either fall right back to sleep or I start thinking of everything that I need to do that day and stay awake.
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I think it would be difficult to time exactly when i'd been asleep for 8 hours. It takes me from 30minutes to an hour to get to sleep each night (sometimes longer), so it would be hard to know what time exactly to set it for.

I know what you mean about thinking about what you need to do and staying awake, that happens to me too. So much to think about, my mind loves to think myself crazy while i want sleep.