is it possible to....?

[defygravity]

attempt WILD without going to sleep for the 3-4 hours first? Has anyone tried this? I'm so excited to the WILD i can't fall asleep right now.

[hawkeye]

I think its entirely possible. WILD is supposed to work off REM sleep and all that junk, but for some reason i have been able to do it in the past as long as im bloody tired. Im talking about physical tiredness, not metal tiredness here (i tend to fall into a very deep sleep and my recall is shot). If ive been up partying for 30 hours or more (without alcohol, as this wrecks everything) or if im coming down after raving for an entire night i tend to find that i can WILD about 70% of the time which is pretty good. So yeah give it a try and see if it works for you. Also lose the excitment as this will wreck the WILD, you wont be able to relax enough.

[Silvanus350]

Going to sleep for 3-4 hours then trying to WILD is actually the WBTB portion of a WILD/WBTB combo. Naturally, you don't actually need to sleep 3-4 hours before attempting to WILD (I don't), some just find it helpful. It is true, however, that the more tired you are the faster you will fall into SP, and thus lucidity.

[Astral__Explorer]

Yes, the main probably is actually not going to sleep. (Easier said then done) Due to my horrible and random sleeping, I've manage to do it. My whole Lucid Dreaming life is rather different compared to what I normally read about which is why I started getting into this again.