REM extension? REM rebound??

[MrDeJaWu]

so if i stay awake for 24hrs i'll have double the rem period the next sleep? if i 1 week stay awake? wow that'll have 7X rem period?? REM rebound, some guy say that if u drink beer till drunk the next time u'll get rem rebound, double REM period?? so drinking beer is indeed more gd than harm?

[Swank]

so drinking beer is indeed more gd than harm? I HOPE SO

[Kromoh]

I used to have a theory about this. This is philosophy in its purest form though, I am not making any scientifical claim. Deep sleep is like taking a shower. REM sleep is like getting dressed. (lol the allusion) In deep sleep, your mind vanquishes all thoughts, clearing your brain and preparing it for more input. It is like cleaning the house. When you get drunk (or deprivate sleep) your mind gets unstable: there a lot of things to be cleaning. It's just like formatting a floppy disk after using. If your mind goes through something excessfully tiring, it will need more time to "reboot", mroe time to "delete all the files" in your brain. After that first sleep, when you have deprivated sleep, got drunk, or the similar, your mind will give more emphasis to cleaning the house (deep sleep) than organising it (REM sleep). For that reason, you will feel tired, unprepared, and slow-thinking after your first period of sleep. Your mind will be clear, but won't be prepared to face the other day. It didn't have time to transfer your short-term memory to the long-term memory (thus you have trouble to remember what you did upon getting drunk). When you reach yoru second sleep stage, which wil lprobably be an afternoon nap (you won't last too long without it anyway) your mind will finish your sleep cycle, finally "organising" the house. Memories will be recorded, learning will be processed, recognition abilities will be restored. This is done in REM sleep. It sets everything ready for the next day. A few characteristics of this scheme can be felt by the sample subject. For example, his/her "biological clock" will only have counted one day, when actually two days have passed. This gets more problematic as you get older, as your body tends to depend more on routine. Concluding, yes, getting drunk will give you one sleep with more REM, but on the other hand you will have one sleep without (or with few) REM. Here is a scheme to make what I stated above easier: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Normal sleep: Waking period ---------------------------------- First sleep period Mind will clean itself and relax (deep sleep mostly). ---------------------------------- Second sleep period Mind will finally prepare itself to face the day, organising memories and refreshing recognition abilities (REM sleep mostly). ---------------------------------- Waking period ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tired sleep: Mental tiredness (getting drunk, sleep deprivation, clinical drugs, etc) ---------------------------------- First sleep period Mind will clean itself and relax (deep sleep mostly). ---------------------------------- Waking period You feel slow and disoriented. ---------------------------------- Second sleep period Mind will finally prepare itself to face the day, organising memories and refreshing recognition abilities (REM sleep mostly). ---------------------------------- Waking period ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I personally don't find it worth it. I'd rather save energy through the day, since that way theer will be less "cleaning" (deep sleep) and more "organising" (REM sleep).