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      slightly different WILD

      I just had this idea when perfecting my concept of WILD.


      I find it hard to get into the right mindset for a WILD attempt, especially because I don't combine it with WBTB for my own reasons. I can, however get to Sleep Paralysis in my attempts: it only takes a bit of self control.

      Based on all my experiences (which aren't that much ) I revised a few instructions of a successful WILD.

      1. Prepare to sleep, make sure nothing is going to be a problem: you know, the usual pre-WILD bullshit ;D
      2. When attempting to do WILD in the beggining of sleep, you will have many things still in mind, so, lay down and forget about WILDing for some time. Brainstorm how much you want. The only thing you have to make sure is that you won't doze off. Don't focus on anything related to WILD: not your body nor HI nor anything; just your so-important nightly thoughts. Think whatever you want to.
      3. After all the brainstorming (you won't even notice time passing, but it will pass), "remember" about WILD: bring your attention back to it. You will notice, by this time, that your body is already in the fully relaxed state it takes so much to enter. You will feel as if you had woken in the middle of the night. Now is the time to WILD.
      4. Do a kind of self hypnosis, but don't use suggestions. Instead, make yourself feel heavier and heavier. Pay attention to your body, but do not focus on it.
      5. Sensorial hypnagogic hallucinations will come up any time now. They may come in any form, but people usually describe them as "vibrations". I myself feel a kind of electric shock through all my body. Focus on these sensations, and increase them if you want to.
      6. After being in the fullness of hypnagogic hallucinations, you will probably notice the effects of Sleep Paralysis: you may find it hard to know in which exact position you are lying, and you may get the impression you're phasing through your bed.
      7. This is the tricky part: move. High chances are you are now moving your dream body instead of your real one. Move and do a reality check, no matter if you think your attempt was unsuccessful. Now lucid away


      The only 2 potential issues with this technique are:
      1. You might doze off when brainstorming, at stage 2. If you do, face this stage with the same approach as MILD: tell yourself that, when you are done with your thoughts, you will come back to WILD. Saying this will make your mind remember about WILDing when it judges your thoughts done.
      2. The tricky part with moving your body in order transition into the dream is probably the feeling that you will wake up. Finding the right time to move takes trial and error, but you must take the chance. Whenever you believe your body image no longer corresponds to your physical body, then move. Many people will actually dream they are in Sleep Paralysis because they refuse to move.

      This technique uses sleep onset thoughts to do the dirty job of making you enter the first stages of WILD: the so-called relaxed state. Apart from that, it is not much different from other WILD techniques.

      This is all open for feedback and revision. Hope you like it.

      PS: you can learn far more about WILD by reading people's lucid dream journals
      Last edited by Kromoh; 09-26-2007 at 09:28 PM.
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      Kromoh, this looks like a great technique for those trying to WILD without having to WBTB first!

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      Good info. The "Brainstorming" idea is a good one. It'll be much easier to focus on the task at hand when your mind isn't worried about the daily BS

      Thanks for this
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      Hmmm, Ill try this technique for sure. I like it.

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      ok Kromoh...great tutorial...
      I just wonder...
      a) your signature says polyphasic sleep...but is this tut for your standard 8 hour sleeper like me?
      b) I thought REM didn't begin at the start of the night so it was impossible
      c)i heard the shift in consciousnesses in wild was quite detectable?

      thanks for the help

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      That technique was made before i turned polyphasic. It is aimed at the regular 8 hours sleep pattern. When you are polyphasic, everytime you go to sleep it is like WBTB: dreams form minutes or seconds after you fall asleep. (so this technique becomes useless)

      Through polyphasic sleep, REM can indeed be shifted to the beggining of sleep. But that is not the idea in this tutorial. WILDing from the beggining of sleep is just harder and more time-consuming. It is still completely possible.

      When you transition to a dream during WILD, high chances are you'll dream that you are still WILDing. That's because you will believe you are WILDing, thus it is taken into your dream. The transition may be detectable to some people, but it isn't for some others, myself included. The only way to be sure is to get up and try a RC.
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      Yayz, This Tutorial is filled with helpfull info!

      I'm gonna be sure to try it, Even though WILD creeps me out.
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      It would be awesome to find a tech that works at night before falling asleep - even though its technically a lot harder without falling straight into REM sleep. On the other hand, a lot of advanced astral travellers have said that the best time for astral projection is at night before sleep. So that being true, there might be some hope!

      I'll give this a try soon...

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