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Fuckin A. Shift understands me. :banana:
I tried this twice this morning. I woke up and tried to do it but I merely felt cold all over my body. Nothing happened though. No sounds, vibrations or movement. I'll keep trying it though.
I just moved out of my parents, so my new house's backyard isn't a memory that is extremely vivid in my memory yet. Perhaps I should imagine my parent's backyard?
Tried it again last night...I think. I'm not sure.
I set my alarm clock to 7.30AM - so I'd wake up after 6 hourse of sleep. I remember turning it off. But what happened after that...I don't know. Maybe I tried the visualising thingie, maybe not. I have vague memories of my body, lying in bed, vibrating heavily. I'm not sure whether it was real, or a dream.
I'm going to try AGAIN this night.
I managed to get into a WILD for the first time while using this. I didn't actually end up at my house, but I did WILD! :boogie: After I woke up from that I tried again, ended up in my house but not lucid, but became lucid later in the dream!! :boogie: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...88&postcount=8
Someone should write a guide that summarizes all the important stuff about this technique.
I'm seriously confused here... So:
1) You go to sleep in the evening
2) You sleep 5,6,7,8,9 hours
3) You wake up (briefly)
4) You start imagining running through a very familiar enviroment.
5) You enter the dream, lucid.
Questions: When you have your brief awakening, you are AWAKE and concious when you start imagining right? You just keep imagining until you fall asleep, and the fantasy will become an LD?
What if auto suggestion doesn't work? Can I use an alarm clock? Usually when I'm still tired and my alarm clock goes off I just turn it off quickly and fall asleep again in seconds.
Help me please I want an LD so bad :(
The highlighted step is just silly. It helps to be in a familiar environment, but it isn't necessary. It helps to be moving, but it isn't necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox
It's not a "fantasy". It's a strict visualization. There is no planning or abstract thought. Those will actually prevent this from working. You are simply using your mind's eye to render a scene and simulate yourself in it. As it turns out, doing this while in SP does very often lead to full on dreams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox
Whatever works. But you know, if you put lucid dreams on a pedestal, it will never happen for you. You also have to realize that your first few (at least) will be mere seconds in length.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox
I hate reality said that the enviroment had to be a familiar place, that is easy to imagine.
You know what I mean by "fantasy"...
And I didn't place LD's on a pedestal - I just said that I'd like to have another LD. By the way - if you don't value LD's , then why try to be good at it?
One more question: If you wake up, and you turn off your alarm (apparently waking up with an alarm works too) how can you be in SP?
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Originally Posted by drewmandan
I don't think video games are the second coming, yet I still enjoy playing them. What do I have to lose with lucid dreaming? A few hours of sleep? I have a whole new form of entertainment to gain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox
I've already answered this question, so perhaps you should go back and read my answer again and again until it sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox
The important stuff about this VARIATION of this technique:
Lay in your bed.
Visualize a familiar place.
Fall asleep, retaining consciousness so that it becomes a WILD in that imagined environment.
Stuff to Make this Technique EASIER:
After a minimum of about 4-5 hours of sleep, use this technique after each brief awakening.
Try to imagine as many senses as possible... sight, sound, touch, smell, even taste.
It helps if you wake naturally, but you don't have to.
It helps if you remain as still as possible after awakening, but you don't have to.
It helps if you read other threads on this forum and inform yourself about WILDing techniques in general, but you don't have to. It just gets obnoxious if you don't.
And yea, it's best to visualize when you are still asleep and not conscious...?
Seriously, do you need us to answer that question for you?
I'd recommend chilling out a bit. You are making lucid dreaming entirely too difficult and stressful. I think MY frequency just dropped simply because I read your post. Don't push it. Just enjoy it. And read the other threads on this forum. :shock:
So sorry. I just want to be really sure I'm doing everything right so I don't waste any time.
Your extremely detailed and obvious questions are just annoying sometimes because it's like, we tell you to walk through a door, and you're asking which foot to put first, what colour shirt to wear, whether you should lean forward, etc. ENOUGH already. You can't learn anything more from us. You have to go to bed and try it, several times, until you learn how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox
I tried this method for the third time and finally success this morning! I had a brief awakening maybe 4-5 hours into sleep and as I fell back asleep I imagined walking out from my driveway and running down my street. Just as I started running I realized that it was a dream. I continued running and looking around...then I tried to prolong the dream by shouting "stop time now!" but to no avail. anways after that I started smashing cars up like the hulk. With one backswing of my arm I would send cars flying away in a busted heap! It was pretty cool. Then I tried to fly like neo in the matrix. I looked up and that song started playing (the one that played at the end of the first matrix movie) but nothing happened. Lucidity lasted no longer than a minute. I'll try again tonight!
Rage Against the Machine - Wake Up
I saw them live for free in Denver the other day :DQuote:
Originally Posted by drewmandan
I got pink eye from the mosh pit though..
I find this anecdote both funny and disturbing simultaneously. Although, it does shed some light on what really goes on in those mosh pits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sony86
became lucid again last night! not really from the method in this thread...probably cuz before I went to bed I had been reading about WILD and other things around the forums. I guess it was a DILD but anyways it was again short lived however motivating because I've never had lucid dreams twice within the same week much less within the same month! This time I tried to take in the details and environment even more. I could see colors and it was very realistic. I went over to this bush and looked at the detail of the leaves. I looked at it, smelled and even licked it to see what it tasted like haha. Didn't smell or taste anything. Then I shouted "CLARITY NOW!" I don't think much happened at that command. soon after I lost lucidity....I'm going to try the same method in this thread tonight and be more strict with it...hopefully I'll get number 3 this time! wish me luck!
Congrats, try not to be too excited, it might keep you from falling back asleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by seph89
Other than that keep trying and it will become easier to do.
Just remember that when your doing your visualization motion and tactile sensation are important. Basically you should be walking around and touching stuff in your visualiziation.
I usually walk around my backyard and open the gate that leads to my front yard and i'll know when ive entered the dream.
And also dont forget timing is important to. The brief awakening should be after 5-6 hours of sleep.
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Originally Posted by I H8 Reality
WOW! I paid a lot more attention to motion and tactile sensation this time and guess what??? I had not one but TWO lucid dreams this morning!!! :boogie:
It was amazing. They both lasted pretty long but the second felt like it lasted considerably longer. To achieve lucidity I imagined the same scene of me going downstairs to the garage. As I went down stairs I would pay attention to the number of steps I'd take and the feel of the hand rail all the way down to touching the doorknob of the door leading to the garage. Once I'd enter the garage I would be lucid! And the dreams! I still have a lot to work on in terms lucid control and skills but man I've made a serious breakthrough! :banana:
Thanks for the method man!
Lol I tried the tech again this morning, but while I was imagining the enviroment I had this song stuck in my head so got distracted. Failed again :D
Can this work with an alarm? Normally I just reach up, press "off", and try for an LD. Takes a total of about 30 seconds before I'm back asleep.Quote:
Originally Posted by I H8 Reality
better not to use an alarm.Quote:
Originally Posted by mini0991
I'm definately going to try this tonight! Right now, I'm so tired and mye yes are pretty heavy, so I feel really optimistic, which is rare. I think something that may help whilst visualizing something (from a memory) is to thinka bout something you used to do a lot, or loved. Say.... Maybe wyhen you were younger, you liked to play ding dong ditch! Imagine yourself as that age again, running to different doors, pressing the doorbell/knocking, and running away to duck behind a bush. I think what makes this method successful, is that we imagine and remember something that has already happend, so when we start dreaming, we realize "Hey! I remember doing this when I was 10 ( or what ever age)!" and become lucid becuase it's kind of a DS/ RC because it's something that has happened that may not happen again. Atleast with the way I'm thinking. xP
I've done this exact same thing before!
I made a tutorial because I didn't know it was already invented.