Thread: I H8 Reality's VILD Technique

Someone should write a guide that summarizes all the important stuff about this technique.

I'm seriously confused here... So:

1) You go to sleep in the evening
2) You sleep 5,6,7,8,9 hours
3) You wake up (briefly)
4) You start imagining running through a very familiar enviroment.
5) You enter the dream, lucid.

Questions: When you have your brief awakening, you are AWAKE and concious when you start imagining right? You just keep imagining until you fall asleep, and the fantasy will become an LD?

What if auto suggestion doesn't work? Can I use an alarm clock? Usually when I'm still tired and my alarm clock goes off I just turn it off quickly and fall asleep again in seconds.

Help me please I want an LD so bad

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Someone should write a guide that summarizes all the important stuff about this technique.

I'm seriously confused here... So:

1) You go to sleep in the evening
2) You sleep 5,6,7,8,9 hours
3) You wake up (briefly)
4) You start imagining running through a very familiar enviroment.
5) You enter the dream, lucid.

The highlighted step is just silly. It helps to be in a familiar environment, but it isn't necessary. It helps to be moving, but it isn't necessary.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Questions: When you have your brief awakening, you are AWAKE and concious when you start imagining right? You just keep imagining until you fall asleep, and the fantasy will become an LD?

It's not a "fantasy". It's a strict visualization. There is no planning or abstract thought. Those will actually prevent this from working. You are simply using your mind's eye to render a scene and simulate yourself in it. As it turns out, doing this while in SP does very often lead to full on dreams.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

What if auto suggestion doesn't work? Can I use an alarm clock? Usually when I'm still tired and my alarm clock goes off I just turn it off quickly and fall asleep again in seconds.

Help me please I want an LD so bad

Whatever works. But you know, if you put lucid dreams on a pedestal, it will never happen for you. You also have to realize that your first few (at least) will be mere seconds in length.

I hate reality said that the enviroment had to be a familiar place, that is easy to imagine.
You know what I mean by "fantasy"...
And I didn't place LD's on a pedestal - I just said that I'd like to have another LD. By the way - if you don't value LD's , then why try to be good at it?
One more question: If you wake up, and you turn off your alarm (apparently waking up with an alarm works too) how can you be in SP?

Originally Posted by drewmandan

The highlighted step is just silly. It helps to be in a familiar environment, but it isn't necessary. It helps to be moving, but it isn't necessary.



It's not a "fantasy". It's a strict visualization. There is no planning or abstract thought. Those will actually prevent this from working. You are simply using your mind's eye to render a scene and simulate yourself in it. As it turns out, doing this while in SP does very often lead to full on dreams.



Whatever works. But you know, if you put lucid dreams on a pedestal, it will never happen for you. You also have to realize that your first few (at least) will be mere seconds in length.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

By the way - if you don't value LD's , then why try to be good at it?

I don't think video games are the second coming, yet I still enjoy playing them. What do I have to lose with lucid dreaming? A few hours of sleep? I have a whole new form of entertainment to gain.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

One more question: If you wake up, and you turn off your alarm (apparently waking up with an alarm works too) how can you be in SP?

I've already answered this question, so perhaps you should go back and read my answer again and again until it sticks.

The important stuff about this VARIATION of this technique:

Lay in your bed.
Visualize a familiar place.
Fall asleep, retaining consciousness so that it becomes a WILD in that imagined environment.

Stuff to Make this Technique EASIER:

After a minimum of about 4-5 hours of sleep, use this technique after each brief awakening.
Try to imagine as many senses as possible... sight, sound, touch, smell, even taste.
It helps if you wake naturally, but you don't have to.
It helps if you remain as still as possible after awakening, but you don't have to.
It helps if you read other threads on this forum and inform yourself about WILDing techniques in general, but you don't have to. It just gets obnoxious if you don't.

And yea, it's best to visualize when you are still asleep and not conscious...?
Seriously, do you need us to answer that question for you?

I'd recommend chilling out a bit. You are making lucid dreaming entirely too difficult and stressful. I think MY frequency just dropped simply because I read your post. Don't push it. Just enjoy it. And read the other threads on this forum.

So sorry. I just want to be really sure I'm doing everything right so I don't waste any time.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

So sorry. I just want to be really sure I'm doing everything right so I don't waste any time.

Your extremely detailed and obvious questions are just annoying sometimes because it's like, we tell you to walk through a door, and you're asking which foot to put first, what colour shirt to wear, whether you should lean forward, etc. ENOUGH already. You can't learn anything more from us. You have to go to bed and try it, several times, until you learn how it works.