Almost a WILD!

[Super FZL]

Last night I was quite tired. So I thought, "I'm not even going to try to induce a lucid. Maybe I'll do FILD if I get the chance." So I'm sitting there, my clock reading 9:35. I do what I always do when going to sleep. To help clear my mind, I always think about things and then stop thinking about them when I exhale. (Difficult to explain, but it works quite effectively for me). Next, I decided to do a permutation of the 61-point relaxation technique. I decided to mentally numb each of my fingers and toes one at a time, and then numb the rest of my body, moving in small disk-like increments (this works well too). Then, my eyes start acting like I'm in REM and they start moving rapidly, opening and closing at a furious rate that I can't control. This gradually ended, so I thought my WILD was over. Turned out I was wrong when I did some RCs. My main point is: 1. It was an amazing (if not obscure) experience. 2. If I could do this without any sleep, imagine how well it would work combined with a WBTB.

[lonestarx]

very sick! I had this happen to me. Also I forgot to mention to you that what I PM you, if your the type of person tn wake up random at night, that it works too after you wake up too. Also super look at complex's method of phasing- it sounds amazing if you can get it to work- its on first page. Anyways nice but I still think you should try my method

[Super FZL]

very sick! I had this happen to me. Also I forgot to mention to you that what I PM you, if your the type of person tn wake up random at night, that it works too after you wake up too. Also super look at complex's method of phasing- it sounds amazing if you can get it to work- its on first page. Anyways nice but I still think you should try my method I often wake up randomly in the night. As for your method, 3-4 hours does not work for me at all. I'll try to change the timing to suit myself, but I don't want to compromise effectiveness.

[a_dreamer]

i dont think your eyes has really anything to do with the wild. ps: lonestarx can you post your fild technique? cause i'm flabbergasted that you got 12 succesful with no previous dilds.

[Super FZL]

i dont think your eyes has really anything to do with the wild. What? How do you figure that? It even says that REM-like sensations can occur during WILD.

[a_dreamer]

What? How do you figure that? It even says that REM-like sensations can occur during WILD. if your awake enough to feel your eyes, i dont think feeling your eyes move is a good sign. but i could be wrong, i was wrong before, and i could be wrong now. Specially cause i havent payed attention to eyes lately. I guess it could happen, but out of my own experience (which is not alot) ive never had that happen to me before.

[unseen wombat]

I've felt vibrations in my eyes before when trying to WILD. Never successfully though. I also often feel them when I randomly wake in the night and try for a DEILD.