Pain going into SP!

[Parakonstantius]

Help guys, Last night I was all excited, because I had choline. Right? Eventually, my left arm was seized with almost absolute paralysis, while my right arm was pretty much free to move. When the paralysis moved up my arm, it was painful. It felt like I was voraciously exercising my arm. It was painful almost to the point of a sharp pain. I eventually got up, because it felt so weird. I was seized with fear that my whole body would be in absolute, painful paralysis while I was awake, so I forced myself to move. It might be from the fact that I used a technique to quicken paralysis by slightly moving muscles in my arm, to send the signal that my dreaming mind needs to be restricted from muscle movements. I learned it from Saltcube, and I must say it works great, but I'm not sure if that might be the cause. Also, I experience extreme urges to scratch an itch on my face, and sometimes nose going into SP. Tips? Advice? Remember anything like this happening to you? Parakyo

[hellohihello]

You can try stretching.

[Parakonstantius]

You can try stretching. I would, but that totally messes up SP. I find that when SP starts, the slightest movement is very painful for me. Also, it feels a lot like my paralysis stricken arm is being crushed inside an ever closing, rock cavern. Thanks for the suggestion, though, tonight I'll try stretching out as much as I can when I'm in bed.

[Parakonstantius]

Any suggestions?

[snoop]

I think hello meant stretching before laying down. Anyway... my SP is nothing like yours. I never make a slow transition into it, it just hits me all at once. Are you sure you aren't just losing all the blood in your arm when that happens? That's happened to me a lot, and I can't feel or move the arm at all. If you're sure it was SP then I guess you can do nothing but tough it out (including the urges to itch; those are tests by the brain to make sure your body is asleep). :\

[hellohihello]

Mind telling me what the technique to speed it up is? And yes, I meant before bed.

[snoop]

Mind telling me what the technique to speed it up is? If you're asking me, I really have no idea. All I know is when I get SP it's after I've woken up in the early morning and I'm trying to go back to sleep. Sometimes I'm trying DEILD, sometimes WILD. I'm not really sure how to make it happen all at once tbh. And also, I don't get SP that often, so if that's an indicator of anything, I don't know. All of those times may have been flukes, as they happened within 2 minutes of trying to go back to sleep anyway.

[hellohihello]

If you're asking me, I really have no idea. All I know is when I get SP it's after I've woken up in the early morning and I'm trying to go back to sleep. Sometimes I'm trying DEILD, sometimes WILD. I'm not really sure how to make it happen all at once tbh. And also, I don't get SP that often, so if that's an indicator of anything, I don't know. All of those times may have been flukes, as they happened within 2 minutes of trying to go back to sleep anyway. Nope the but thanks for answering I was talking to Par because she said there was a technique on saltcube but I could not find it.

[Parakonstantius]

Mind telling me what the technique to speed it up is? And yes, I meant before bed. Well, you just jolt your muscles VERY slightly about every 20 seconds, as though you're moving your muscles because of a dream. This signals your mind to send paralysis ahead to stop you from waking up.

[Parakonstantius]

I think hello meant stretching before laying down. Anyway... my SP is nothing like yours. I never make a slow transition into it, it just hits me all at once. Are you sure you aren't just losing all the blood in your arm when that happens? That's happened to me a lot, and I can't feel or move the arm at all. If you're sure it was SP then I guess you can do nothing but tough it out (including the urges to itch; those are tests by the brain to make sure your body is asleep). :\ Well, does losing blood result in making it harder to move?

[snoop]

Well, does losing blood result in making it harder to move? Yup. For me it results in total paralysis in whatever limb is lacking the blood. Usually I'll wake up with my arm under me, unable to feel it or move it (be careful if you wake up like that; I did once and I lifted my paralyzed arm up with my other arm and let go, and it hit me in the face (hurt too). Your limbs are heavier than you know, lol). I've only had one instance of losing blood whilst trying to WILD though, so I don't know if that's what happened to you or not.

[Arutad]

Are you sure that it's SP? For me what you describe sounds a bit like an illness of some sort, but you mentioned that you had choline in the beginning, what on earth is that, a kind of drug? Anyway, I had painful experiences while WILDing. I know of no way to ward them off. If something like that happens all you can do is be patient and remember that it's going to stop very soon. If you really can't bear it you'll jerk yourself awake. But then you can just try again. Please don't treat your experience as something final, many things happen when you're falling asleep, and if once or twice you felt pain it means nothing. Next time you'll feel something else.

[Delwind]

on my sp i know when in going to have it before it starts because i feel like an eletric charge going trough my body very fast, and then it happens again and i become paralysed, i never felt pain.

[Arutad]

@Delwind Yeah I think it's not SP, too, at least I always thought that SP is merely this "feeling" of getting paralysis, and pain and all effects come after SP. The OP even describes SP in a strange way, at first he gets one hand paralyzed... how is that possible? It should encompass all your body at once.