Thread: advice needed for breathing issues

hi,

I need some advice from people who had experienced breathing issues in the learning phase of performing WILD.
I've been trying to perform WILD now for the last 3 weeks, and I've hit the same obstacle. Breathing....

In the beginning, at some point of the WILD process, I would begin breathing irregularly and this was of some concern to me... I would always try to control my breathing during the WILD process, and this would always ruin the WILD attempt near the end when I'm about to transition over.
However, based on reading the posts in this website, I've learned to disregard the breathing irregularity near the end of the WILD process when i transition over to the dreaming state. However, though I try not to pay any attention to it, I am aware enough that at the final legs of the WILD process, I stop breathing for a few moments when i begin the transition over. I feel the wave hit me hard and I blank out essentially. However, the next moment, my body draws breath explosively and this causes me to awaken. I didn't force my body to breath, but because of my irregular breathing, at some point my body does begin breathing again, and when it takes over, there is most often an explosive intake of breath that startles me awake. Has anyone learned how to get around this specific obstacle? I've tried to concentrate on visuals, concentrating on the pressure of the bed on my back but always, the breathing kicking in forces me to wake. Any advice?

The only two times I was able to perform WILD was accidently, when I was already watching a visual dream/HI sequence and was therefore, minimally aware at the point of transition.

Thanks in advance..

Do you do WBTB?

Oops... sorry about that..

Yes, I wake up naturally about 4-5 hours into the night. I then write into my journal and then practice staying aware while allowing my body to fall asleep.
So it is WBTB.

Well, from what I know from this, you're doing it all right and it just takes practice from there.

As for breathing, just syay as gentle and slow as you can, and visualize as much as possible.

Originally Posted by Jdeadevil

Well, from what I know from this, you're doing it all right and it just takes practice from there.

As for breathing, just syay as gentle and slow as you can, and visualize as much as possible.

So you are supposed to control your breathing? I thought that you just allowed your body to breath however it wants? You should try to keep your breath as gentle and slow as you can? The first couple of times I tried to control it, I spent the whole night trying to control my breathing because at the ending part of it, my breathing always becomes erratic. Trying to control it always forced me to become more and more aware as time passed.

Haha, some advice also, try not to look to deeply into that, it's only to relax you and put you into the dream mood. So yeah, only if it's relaxing, if it's not relaxing in any way, don't do it.