Thread: I want to learn how to LD

Okay, from browsing the forums i realise there are MANY methods to enter a LD and that you need to start by keeping a dream journal and doing your best to remember what happens in your dreams.

Now, of the many LD techniques what would be the easiest for a newcommer to do in order to enter a LD? also, just curious but do some techniques put you into different types of LD's or are they all different ways to enter one.

also i hear WILD has some creepy part before you enter a LD, even so i would be willing to try that if someone recommended the easiest method.

Thanks again for the help

edit: If you say wild or a method where i have to wake up, can i wake up with an alarm or do i have to just wake up somehow.

edit: more info... I am a relatively heavy sleeper. I normally don't remember falling asleep and rarely (1 or 2 times a month) remember my dreams. For about a week now i've been trying to remember my dreams and can remember them maybe 1/2 times a week. I will definitely continue practicing that, but am curious about any specific techniques to do. as of now it seems i should wake up 4-6 hours after going asleep. Stay right where i am on the bed but let myself wake up a small bit (or) get up and walk around for a short time if i already moved right after waking up. Then i should try to relax and just concentrate on one thing like my breathing, until i visualize HI. After that i need to just kind of go with the flow of things.

Is that about right? any suggestions / changes to that.

I would suggest getting the book, "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" from amazon or Borders. It has a wealth of information. For me, these forums can get a little bit too much in terms of information overload. I will switch from one technique to another before the previous technique would ever have a chance of working. It is best to start with one technique and follow through until it becomes successful.

I would definitely suggest improving your dream recall before attempting any LD. The reason for this is because you may become lucid a hundred times, but forget them and figure that you have failed and then quit for good. Keep up that dream journal! Don't fail. Once you are able to remember at least one dream per night then you are ready to begin to do reality checks (RC's). Make it a point to remember a dream. Before you go to bed, lay there and repeat thirty times, " I awake from my dream and remember." Any sort of affirmation has to present tense, positive, and first person. If you awake in the middle of the night, remember a dream, but don't want to take the time to write the whole thing down, then just right several keywords that will help you recall the dream in the morning, at which time you will flesh out more of the dream.

Once you are a capable dream rememberer you can begin by doing RC's. The classic is to pinch your nose and see if you can breathe through it. Even if you know that you are in real life make it real, as if you can not tell if you are in a dream or not. Do this 21 times per day for 21 days. It takes at least three weeks for something to become a habit. Once it is a habit (and sometimes before) it will work its way into your dreams. In your dream you will pinch your nose and breathe through it. You will realize you are dreaming.

Once you realize you are dreaming you must immediately rub your hands together, shout, spin in a circle, etc. in order to solidify your consciousness in the dreamscape. Once you are able to do this you have come a long way. Later you will be able to learn how to control your dreams and last longer in the dreamscape. Eventually you can meet your dream guide. And experience a very unique and surreal inner world. However the most important ingredient is motivation. You have to be tenacious and stubborn not to mention, patient in order to succeed. All that it takes is to taste consciousness just once in the dreamscape in order to become addicted to the experience.

Hope this helped.

Thanks. i think the main problem is that i either have a dream i can remember very well, or i don't even remember having one. I am going to look into that book tomorrow, and as for the RC idea, i like it.

I have had very vivid dreams before, but usually its almost like i'm not in my body but watching from above. So i want to definitely try practicing the reality checks.


Thanks again for the info.

Forget the book, don't waste money. The forums are hard to navigate, but I'll be your guide if you want. If you have any questions, ask me.

To answer your question, I would reccomend DILD. All it requires is practice, instead of the 30-90 minutes of lying awake in frustration that some WILD techniques require.

A DILD is a Dream Induced Lucid Dream. It's the one with the reality checks. It's where you train yourself to do RCs, and then you habitually do them in dreams and realize that you are dreaming (become lucid) when something unusual happens when you do your RC (for example, my fav RC is to push your left index finger into the palm of your right hand. One day in a dream I did that and my index finger went right through my hand, causing my first DILD).

Again, if you have any questions I'll help you out.

i will try that wakatadreamer. The main thing for me is that on the off chance i do remember my dreams, its more like i am watching myself then actually being myself in my dreams. ( kinda odd i know)

i still want to try wilds eventually but at the moment i've decided to practice that technique.

I figure everytime i see a number or something like that, i will see if i can breath through my mouth with my mouth closed

and i do believe i can be patient with this bc it doesn't seem like too much hard work, i just have to practice at it until it clicks. I am definitely willing to do this every night and practice

Originally Posted by WakataDreamer

Forget the book, don't waste money.

It isn't a waste of money. Many consider it the Bible of Lucid Dreaming. To me, LaBerge can explain LD methods MUCH better than others. That's not saying that other explanations aren't good, but it's like his version was made for beginners.

Don't count it out. If you had to read 1 LD book, most would suggest EWOLD.

before i do that, i am doing something to improve my dream recall. Do i have to do anything else besides having a dream journal and using autosuggestion to remember my dreams?


do i need to wake up with an alarm at certain times or just keep working on my DJ?

i'm also working on RCing during the day, but i just keep forgetting.

hopefully once my Dream recall gets better and my Rcing becomes a habit, i will be able to practice DILD.

Dild seems the easiest for me since i just wake up try not to move, and go back to sleep while concentrating on something