Finally, A 10 second lucid induction! Title -*MFG*

I tried this 2 nights ago. I thought I had awesome visualisation. I know I used to. At least better than average. But it turns out I got everything going in my scene EXCEPT the image. haha. I had the sounds of the people, the birds (I just incorporated them coz' I could hear them IRL) and the music being played. It all sounded so real. Then I had all the feeling in my body including a bit of coldness. Then I incorporated the smell of weed lol. I suppose I forgot about emotion. But besides that and sight everything was great. I started getting that floating and I walked in this scape and could feel my dream legs kinda seperating from my real legs. But the image of walking down the aisles was still 'in' my head instead of behind my eyes.
After a few minutes I kind of lost it because I couldn't think of how to 'grab on' to sound.

I think my main problem is I keep on coming back to my real body sorta thing. Anybody know how to stop this? Obviously focusing attention on the other senses but it's really hard.

This is kinda like the technique that is described in the LD4all guide.

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If you succeed in staying aware your hypnagogic images will become clearer. You will suddenly have a feeling you can now step into your dream. This is very hard to describe. The word that comes close is "knowingness"

With this knowingness you can grab an object you see before you or zoom in on an image. This will pull you into the dream.

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I'll definitely try this tonight, sounds promising!
But don't you have to go into sleep paralysis before you can move your "dream" hand?

This worked last night for me, the first time I tried it.
I can vouch

i just tried this last night after reading it yesterday. and it wored for me. i accdentaly lifted my waking hand to grab the imiage. i just told myself no, my real hand. and then it worked.

dream was super hard to stablize. not sure why. but i eventually got it.

thx for the tech

Yeh you would have to be paralysed first.

I tried it, but didn't work out. I'm still positive towards the technique though, because I couldn't quite fall asleep after waking up anyway, so therein the problem probably lies.

Whenever I attempt to WILD I focus my attention purely on visualizing a landscape in front of me. Every so often I get quick flashes of breathtakingly real scenes that vanish before I can get the chance to really observe them. This to me is very frustrating because eventually after playing that game too long my mind wanders and I drift into sleep...:(

Bumpity bump.

I finally got it to work, but with limited results. See the thing is, I got up from my bed at some point and I went back to bed. I remember getting some nice HI, showing what looked like a yard with some trees close to me. It took me some time before I realized I could still feel my bed and that I was actually dreaming, or atleast something close. I instantly tried to reach out for the trees, which worked. I could see my hands and control them, reaching out and all, but what didn't seem to work was grabbing anything. It was like I just couldn't reach any of the scenery, and it kinda seemed that things just got further and further away. In theory, I could just have raised and I would have been in a complete dream, but meh, logic is not the number 1 force when asleep.

It works, and from what I can feel and read, it's basically the same as dream chaining, as in getting up, then going directly back to bed and entering a dream, also known (as far as I know) as DEILD and FILD. I'm not too experienced in this field of lucid-dreaming though, but apparently it worked for me, so I should definitely look into it.

I can't really add anything to this technique, though I can definitely say that the biggest problem in performing it is not failing the grabbing, but rather falling asleep almost instantly once you go back to bed.

I'm getting no results. Am I doing it wrong? Is this important? Can I do it when I go to sleep at night? I don't want to wake myself up early and use WBTB or h.i.l.d. I stare into black nothingness for about 10 minutes, and HI starts appearing. I make it black, and imagine the HI fade in (HI is the clearest way to imagine for me), but when I try to grab an object I feel it for a split second, and then just wake up. And it is not an FA.

How many attempts so far?

Hmm, I think it was 10±2.

I don't know if literally grabbing the scenery would work. You know when you feel like your falling then wake up feeling like you just feel a few feet? It seems like grabbing it would startle yourself. I think a better way is to Not interact with it. To let it flow. I've found that when I let things happen, more than force weird things to happen, that they just come to me. It's worth a try for those of you who say when you tried to grab it that it didn't work....

That would be a normal WILD. But yeh maybe that jsut works for most people. If it doesn't you can just try this method.

Just saw this topic and I get that imagery almost instantly and can get them to last somewhat long so I'll give it an attempt tonight it might work well for me I think. Do something similar as it is on occasion but never tried moving my real hand.

Thanks, will give it a try.

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Originally Posted by malac

I DARE someone to make an instant induction!

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Have you ever heard of DILD?

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Originally Posted by acodemaster

Have you ever heard of DILD?

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I think the real question is, have you?

Dude, he's right.
This isn't 10 seconds either because it takes way longer to get the visuals.
DILD you already have the visuals and just suddenly realise you are dreaming so become lucid instantly. It just takes longer from when you start dreaming. Unless you get lucid a few second after your dream begins.

I think the question is when do you start timing from? What says this is 10 seconds? Is it from the time you lay down to the time you enter the dream? Or the time you start getting visuals to the time you enter the dream.

Well, I've just re-read Malacs original post.

If your waking up, getting up, having a pee and going back to bed, then
your going to be WILDing, and it will take a lot longer than 10 seconds.

Though happy to be proven wrong on this.

I never fall asleep quickly enough for this to work. Almost every time I've ever become lucid, I've had to concentrate for at least 20 minutes.

whoah its malac...

long time no see there bud. I thought I never see the day when you werent BSing us... but it has come. I know you dont remember but I was in the old days of DREAMVIEWS and LD4ALL or w.e when you first posted your 100%method or w.e.

Again not here to hate its nice to see you decided to post it, or atleast part of it. I read and did as instructed. I still cant do this. For some reason this visualization stuff isnt coming to me. You said your nto suppsoed to imgaine nothing for just saying the words " living world" should bring a random picture to mind. Okay I might be one of the only people but it hasnt.... except once but it was a forrest and disspapeared all at once. I just dont get it....

Damn I wish there was a chance in hell of this working for me. I rarely have dreams yet alone lucids but I might try it.

I just tried this again last night. I guess it's in the back of my mind.

However I wasn't to the stage I could see anything. Again :(.
But I used my imaginary arm first to grab the, pretty much blackness but some HI. It actually worked to get my SP really f'in strong. But yeah I couldn't hold it and just had to sleep after a while coz no scenery came.

this method owns for me now.
I don't even need to use my hands.

I start visualizing and I just "mind hop" into it.
it's really cool. for anyone who has done this A LOT (malac :D) try "popping" your body into it. It works, for me at least :)

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Originally Posted by Creation X

this method owns for me now.
I don't even need to use my hands.

I start visualizing and I just "mind hop" into it.
it's really cool. for anyone who has done this A LOT (malac :D) try "popping" your body into it. It works, for me at least :)

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Great news then. This kind of happened to me only once in my life, I was awake, eyes closed watching a shape get more vivid and more vivid until all of a sudden it popped into a real scene and the next thing I knew I was in it. I'll retry again using these techniques.

Hey!!!!

Now I remember how I used to get lucid nearly every time I tried!!!

I used this!!