Finally, A 10 second lucid induction! Title -*MFG*

Well, when I was lying there, I just let some random thoughts come and go to allow me to become sleepy. After a little while I started to visualize a walmart, I was standing in one of the aisles. It seemed to get more vivid after a while and eventually I decided I was going to grab an object right next to me. I think it was toilet paper. But I didnt because I didnt want to wake up my body. But after one or two more delays I decided to do it.(When I did this I used my REAL hand, as in my hand that I brush my teeth with!) And then I laid my arm back on my bed and I waited about 30 seconds then decided to do an RC. It turned out I could breathe through my nose so I knew I was in a dream. I stayed calm and kept my eyes clothes for of waking up if I opened them, but in the end I opened to find that im in my bedroom. I then got out of bed and walked through my bedroom wall to change the scenery. I then ended up in a parking lot, Its then that I decided I was going to try and fly. So I jumped of a nearby hill, I started good but ended up falling. I spent the rest of the dream trying to fly but my legs seemed to get heavier and heavier so I couldnt. Unfortunatley I woke up and never got to fly. But Im still glad I had this expirence an am looking foward to the next one. Also I didnt think about it to hard when I was still visualizing, I just let it come naturally.

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Originally Posted by lucid03

Well, when I was lying there, I just let some random thoughts come and go to allow me to become sleepy. After a little while I started to visualize a walmart, I was standing in one of the aisles. It seemed to get more vivid after a while and eventually I decided I was going to grab an object right next to me. I think it was toilet paper. But I didnt because I didnt want to wake up my body. But after one or two more delays I decided to do it.(When I did this I used my REAL hand, as in my hand that I brush my teeth with!) And then I laid my arm back on my bed and I waited about 30 seconds then decided to do an RC. It turned out I could breathe through my nose so I knew I was in a dream. I stayed calm and kept my eyes clothes for of waking up if I opened them, but in the end I opened to find that im in my bedroom. I then got out of bed and walked through my bedroom wall to change the scenery. I then ended up in a parking lot, Its then that I decided I was going to try and fly. So I jumped of a nearby hill, I started good but ended up falling. I spent the rest of the dream trying to fly but my legs seemed to get heavier and heavier so I couldnt. Unfortunatley I woke up and never got to fly. But Im still glad I had this expirence an am looking foward to the next one. Also I didnt think about it to hard when I was still visualizing, I just let it come naturally.

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GAHHH Lucky you.
:( me still not lucky.

ugh, I keep falling asleep...

This is interesting... I've had little things like what's mentioned. Like, when you close your eyes, you can see actual images, even people, just for a few seconds, and then it sort of melts away... Never really given it much thought, the few times it's happened, other than "that was weird".

Might try it tonight, then!

Can't seem to get it to work for me.
For some strange reason, I just fail to understand how to get a vivid
image in my mind. very frustrating. Usually i'm pretty good with visualizing,
but since I don't sleep very good lately, I might have changed my REM cycles.


Very good idea tho, very, hmph.. untraditional?


Joe, Gonna sleep @ 8pm, Inc.

Attempted it when I woke up at about 11 this morning. I'm pretty sure this doesn't work for going to bed at 3am and waking up at 1am if you have parents talking/making noise in the other room that late in the morning.

I can still tell I'm getting more experience though. :? Just gotta get used to how my own brain does things.

The other night while practicing this technique, I came very close to success. I remember visualizing being inside my car, it was blurry yet vivid.. I grabbed the steering wheel and began to direct my car and it was definitely a dream for a few moments before I came back to consciousness. Awesome! I'll do it again tonight.

This worked for me :D I woke up at 7 ( Went to bed at 2. Good movie on TV) I remembered this and decided to just try it out. Had some trouble figuring out what to visualize. After a while i just closed my eyes and this desert like place appeared. I waited for around 10 seconds, and i just kind of tried to shoot my hand out. My real hand didnt move but my dream hand did. I did an RC and noticed i had 7 fingers. I decided to try flying, since i've never done it before. I just kind of jumped and i flew off. It felt really awesome. Kind of like a rollercoaster. I tried doing some barrel rolls and the likes, but it didn't work. Maybe next time. I suddenly woke up. Might have been an FA. I dont know. Anyway i closed my eyes again and went right back into the dream. I landed and tried blowing stuff up using my mind. It didnt work. I woke up for real now.
Will definately try this again :D

I was so damn close, I think I was thinking about it too much, also there is too much light.

Just now I came downstairs and closed my eyes and imagined one of them things with a pole help up in the air with metal legs that little carriages go across, except there was a train on it (the kind of modern ones you see today, nt a posh one just a normal crap one) and it was in New York... Weird. I couldnt reach into it, though.

I generally have good visualization.

Although, I did try it 4 hours after I woke up, so maybe my REM thing stopped.

I half-tried this last night before I went to sleep. I'll wake up tomorrow early in the morning and try it again.

When I tried it last night, I wasn't able to really visualize anything, but I think that's because I wasn't relaxed at all (with my siblings still awake making noise). I was however, able to move only my dream arms, trying to move my real ones once.

Maybe I suck at visualization. Might try Wendy's "less gay" version.

Oh yeah, did I say when I tried it before, even though it was hours after I had woken up, I felt like I was physically wobbling, like when your on a boat, but more.

I am gonna try this properly when I wake up tomorrow and post results. :)

I've had that wobbling feeling before. Didn't realize that's what I should be having for this.

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Originally Posted by andrew1123

I've had that wobbling feeling before. Didn't realize that's what I should be having for this.

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He was just stating he had a wobbling feeling, you don't need to have a wobbling feeling for this.

Glad to see more and more people are getting this efficient tech to work:) If you feel like it *cough* rate it 5 stars * cough* heh. For those with visualization troubles still, just remember to let it come to you and not to pace it. When you do that, the image will come very fast.

Interesting, today I woke up a bit early without trying to! I had already got myself properly awake without realising so I couldn't do a WILD or anything so I tryed this... It almost worked! I got the image of a flower in my head - a very vivid one - and was able to move it with my hand! Couldn't do an actual LD, though (my mum turned her radio on and played crap music after a few minutes, damn destractions!), but I will try again tomorrow!!!

EDIT: Just to add more detail, before I saw the flower I got a VERY vivid whiteness in my head and it went away in the same way paper does when its burnt from the middle but instead of fire there is light like rays of the sun... It looked very damn cool, anyway!

Okay, sort of got it. Just needed to be in REM, which obviously didn't happen the last couple of times. The images actually disappeared very quickly, that made me move my arm and the wrong time, nearly punched my girl friend.

the second time it kind of worked, though I had nothing to grab on. Just moved my hand forward in the dream world, but.. it disappeard as well..
What do you do when that happens? (Thought about getting out of bed, litterly, as in M-WILD, but.. couldn't, was on the wall side.)

Oh =\. Prolly take a week before i'll get another chance at it. will post any attempts.

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Originally Posted by malac

He was just stating he had a wobbling feeling, you don't need to have a wobbling feeling for this.

Glad to see more and more people are getting this efficient tech to work:) If you feel like it *cough* rate it 5 stars * cough* heh. For those with visualization troubles still, just remember to let it come to you and not to pace it. When you do that, the image will come very fast.

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Yeah, I think its all to do with what living world your mind comes up with, and thats different for everyone.

Yeah, before I was kinda rushing it, I rekon it would work better on a weekend when I have more time and no distractions.

I was amazed by how vivid I was thinking though, its definatly havnig an effect, I will certainly make it work no matter what! Hopefully I wont have to wait months either, as I have had LDs before, I just dont remember them that well or anything, I might have even had hundreds I dont remember at all! ( they where all before I found this place)... I could be a proper natural for all I know, although if I was I would have better recall, wouldnt I?

Anyway, I started my DJ to help the memory and I will post my attempts at this.

Thanks for the cool method, malac!

Didnt work for me tonight. Didnt quite get the visualization part.
Ah well. I'll probably try again tonight.

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Originally Posted by dcs82009

Of course I read it.

I even read it again to humor you, but found that my question was still not answered, and though I think I know the answer, I just want to clarify it for myself and others.



When you do this step, do you just reach out your real hands to "grab" something in your visualization, or do you actually, tangibly grab something near the bed in your room?

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I think you take your actual tangible hand, but you feel somthing that isn't real. Like imagine you have an apple in your hand. Feel it. Your not actually touching it, but you are imagining you are by using your hand and previous knowledge as stimulus. Also make the shape your hand would if you were holding an apple. Remember, I THINK this is what malac is talking about.

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Originally Posted by jereb

I think you take your actual tangible hand, but you feel somthing that isn't real. Like imagine you have an apple in your hand. Feel it. Your not actually touching it, but you are imagining you are by using your hand and previous knowledge as stimulus. Also make the shape your hand would if you were holding an apple. Remember, I THINK this is what malac is talking about.

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rofl lololololololololololololololhahahahalololollololh ahahahahahahahahaha

Didn't get anywhere last night.

didnt get to do wbtb I went to bed way too late

I attempted this last night with mixed results. I set my alarm to wake me up about 4 and half hours after i fell asleep that night. I turned over and tried to visualize, but that just kept me awake. After a couple minutes i just decided that I should just fall back asleep naturally, then finally i started having some HI. I kind of forgot the "grab" step, an instead just kept doing the nose reality check too soon because i wasn't yet dreaming. Eventually I fell asleep and even though this technique didn't work exactly how i planned it would, I DID become lucid sometime through out the dream, and i will be trying this again tonight. This is the only technique that has partially worked for me so far, seeing as my first 3 LD's i just happen to realize i was dreaming.

I know it's very hard to explain or w/e, but how do you visualize?
How do you train your visualization?

When I'm in bed I can think of something and then make it appear in the blackness when my eyes are closed, but it's foggy and blurry but when I think about it later it seems that it was sharp.. I can't explain it, do I keep doing this and I'll get better at visualization?
Cos I'd rly like to try this technique.

Argh, I been trying this on-off for a while now.. no luck whatsoever..
Each time I visualise I somehow end up visualising in the third-person where as your supposed to be in the first person right? anyway, I tried the driving thing.. but it feels like Im controlling it too much, plus how long does it take for things to feel real?

I liked that you said "actual" hands. I don't know how to move my "dream" hands, just my hands. So when I think I'm moving my hands, it's actually my dream hands. Funny stuff. I haven't succeeded with it yet.