Sleeping Pills to WILD

[fragmastr]

Does anybody know whether taking sleeping pills can help one WILD? Right now my body feels like it's shutting down because I took them about an hour ago. I'm curious as to what the results may be if I try WILDing

[spockman]

I can't see sleeping pills help one WILD. The whole point of a WILD is to keep your mind conciouss, coherent, and aware while your body is put to sleep and enters sleep paralysis. Sleeping pills make one drowzy and certainly hinder awareness. If you're having trouble WILDing, maybe look here http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=30783 or here http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=55740 for more general LD knowledge that include WILD facts within it. In conclusion, I've never heard of sleeping pills helping with a WILD and can only imagine them increasing your chances of falling asleep entirely mid-attempt. Oh, welcome to the forums, by the way. It's good to have you.

[Brandon Heat]

If I do recall correctly sleeping pills have bee known to diminish dream recall. So be warned. However yes it could help with WILD in making you fall asleep longer. As long as you could keep conscious throughout the process.

[Shift]

This just sounds like a bad idea.

[fragmastr]

Thanks for the welcome, here are my resuls from attempting his last night. As I even posted this topic I felt super drowsy. It was about 12:30am. I went to bed and I felt heavy as a rock. I tried to just lie there for a few seconds and think about nothing, while I gathered myself to start...but this was probably a bad idea. I was too relaxed and I notcied my mind drifting away within a few minutes..I attempted to bring myself back but found it pretty hard. For a while I was in between thoughts...and couldn't bring myself to start counting breaths like I usually do. Eventually I really needed to use the bathroom. so besides how tired I was I got up and went to the bathroom, only to realize that i was already 2:08 in the night. I was like crap! I wasted time doing nothing. getting off that bed had been damn near impossible and my legs felt like jello. I went back to bed and couldn't afford to spend more time , and so I fell asleep promptly. I still feel like I could have made this work if I had made a more conscious effort to focus my mind on an anchor. My body felt like it was falling asleep even while it was awake...but my mind kept drifting as well. I'm sure it is possible though. I do recall a dream I had in the night too...quite vividly, so recalling my dreams wasn't a problem. I usually have very good dream recall.

[Misbijoux]

Sleeping pills (I rarely take them) knock me out, so there is no way they would help me WILD. Do you sleep a couple of hours before trying to attempt a WILD? I need at least 4 hours of sleep before I can even think of attempting a WILD. I'll wake about 2am, and then I am able to go from there. Either that, or I WILD in the mornings, after I have taken my kids to school and don't have class. For me, that's the best time. Good luck, and don't give up

[Metronome]

This just sounds like a bad idea. Nobody likese the voice of reason. You're prolly the person who said don't do that it's dangerous or don't eat that or don't stick that in there. GO SHIT ON SOMEONE ELSES PARTY

[Shift]

Nobody likese the voice of reason. You're prolly the person who said don't do that it's dangerous or don't eat that or don't stick that in there. GO SHIT ON SOMEONE ELSES PARTY You don't think that using potentially addictive and deadly drugs that aren't going to do the job anyway is a bad idea? Well you can go take a bunch of sleeping pills then... make sure to swig 'em down with some alcohol Ninny? Looks like you accidentally wrote that into my quote, silly. But it's clear that you are the ninny. Put a little thought into what this guy is talking about. Get back to off topic where you belong. Trolling, spam, and bad advice don't belong on these threads.

[fragmastr]

Well, like I said in my other topic...after a night out drinking, I had my first DILD in the morning, after waking up early and trying to sleep a few more hours. Others have said that nights out may have helped them...but I think it wasn't so much the alcohol as it was the fact that I kept waking up prematurely due to the alcohol. The same could technically work with an alarm waking you all the time in the morning, like every 2 hours.

[ZenVortex]

Some sleep inducing substances can produce long, stable, vivid LDs when taken at high doses. For example, Benadryl (diphenhydramine). Here's the Wikipedia entry: The mental effects of high doses (250+mg) are described by many as "dreaming while awake" involving visual and auditory hallucinations that, unlike those experienced with most psychedelic drugs, often cannot be readily distinguished from reality. People who consume a high recreational dose can possibly find themselves in a hallucination which places them in a familiar situation with people and friends and rooms they know, while in reality being in a totally different setting. Substances similar to Benadryl are Doxylamine, which is the main ingredient in most non-prescription sleeping pills, and Dramamine, which is used to prevent nausea. I don't know if these produce LDs but I don't recomment taking high doses of anything, or you may end up in the ER room.

[fragmastr]

Yeah, doesn't sound like too good an idea...OD is a bitch on your liver, I hear. =) On another note, I'm going to try the drinking apple juice thing tonight while trying a WBTB. I'll let you guys know how that goes, it seemed to have worked wonders for some people.

[WhoNeedsReality]

What kind of sleeping pills were they? I take melatonin and valerian root about 2-3 times a week and these are when I have my most vivid LD's. However, those are herbal supplements. Tylenol PM seems to effectively just knock me out and I rarely have any dream recall. Melatonin kicks ass though!

[fragmastr]

melatonin? What is that? a supplement? Does it aid in falling asleep or is it just supposed to aid in dream recall? The pills I took were called Simply Sleep by the makers of tylenol. 2 of those babies could effectively knock my insomniatic butt outt!

[WhoNeedsReality]

melatonin? What is that? a supplement? Does it aid in falling asleep or is it just supposed to aid in dream recall? The pills I took were called Simply Sleep by the makers of tylenol. 2 of those babies could effectively knock my insomniatic butt outt! Most over the counter sleep aids including simply sleep is dipenhydramine--an antihistamine. Melatonin is a natural chemical produced in the body that regulates your sleeping patterns. It works great with no addiction risks or hangover qualities. They should sell it at the grocery store or a local GNC. I usually take anywhere from 1-3mg a night. Mixing it with valerian root has been shown to help produce potent and vivid dreams.

[Enlightenment]

Does anybody know whether taking sleeping pills can help one WILD? Right now my body feels like it's shutting down because I took them about an hour ago. I'm curious as to what the results may be if I try WILDing These are NOT going to help, AT ALL lol. Sleeping pills will knock you out, totally, and 9/10 you won't even remember your dreams while taking these things. Seriously, I know, I used to be perscribed sleeping pills by my Dr and they would knock me out. I used to think I didn't dream at all while I was on them but it was just the fact that I didn't remember any of them because I was so out cold from the pills. I used to go to bed and wake up, that was it. There was no in between, no lucid dreams, OBE's or even plain old dreams for that matter lol - nothing! So yeah, I wouldn't go there, especially if you're just using them to attain lucidity.

[ZenVortex]

You may be wrong. One of my best LDs occurred when I took a sleeping pill (Restoril). What evidently happened is that the sleeping pill kept me asleep while I was normally waking up. However, I was unable to repeat the experience. What I've been thinking of doing is combining a sleeping pill such as doxylamine with a LD stimulant such as galantamine. Take it after a few hours of sleep. The idea is that the sleeping pill will keep you asleep while the stimulant wakes you up.

[Mad Stratter]

[QUOTE=ZenVortex;959728]You may be wrong. One of my best LDs occurred when I took a sleeping pill (Restoril). What evidently happened is that the sleeping pill kept me asleep while I was normally waking up. However, I was unable to repeat the experience. It's not that she's wrong. That one time was just that 1/10. What I've been thinking of doing is combining a sleeping pill such as doxylamine with a LD stimulant such as galantamine. Take it after a few hours of sleep. The idea is that the sleeping pill will keep you asleep while the stimulant wakes you up. Nicotine = stimulant/hallucinogen all in one.