Extremly brutal and delicious physical experience

[Southpaw75]

Hello. I have to ask as I really don't find any good answers to this elsewhere. I've been looking into the lucid dreaming for a while now. A friend of mine told me about it and we've both read and talked of it and find that we both really believe this. She hasn't had any proper experience with this yet. But this post is basically about two separate occasions this week. They both happened in the daytime, as I worked the evenings this week. Both times I lay down to just rest around lunch. The first time I did not really dream anything but had some rather interesting physical experiences. The where trembling in the bed. First light, and then increasing. It felt like it moved on its axis, and I also kinda felt the presence of someone in the room. At some point I decide that " Okay! You want me out of the bed. No way! I wanna stay in bed!" In the end I was sure that the whatever stood close to the bed watching while the bed shook rigorously. That it was trying to throw me out of the bed. To me, as far as I've read this sound like pretty standard sleep paralysis stuff. I have placed the movement to the bed and not my body but that naturally is not possible in the real world. I woke of a feeling of being thrown up and towards the wall, but was of course still in bed. Felt rather strange though. Are this SP as I believe it to be, or something else? I did not try ant WILD or anything. Just happened. Next time happened two days later. The dreams where really vivid and real. For the first time I called the bluff of the dreams and did not wake up as I realized I was dreaming. Therefore I was able to change the scene. Two times I did this. The dreams failed the reality check and I decided to move on. I did not decide where though. Did not try either. But the thing I'd like to know more about was the monumental physical experience that happened in the transition from one dream to the other. The last was extremely intense. Like the first multiplied by five or six. What happens is this: I do a reality check, it fails, and I decide to move on. BOOM! I implode into myself. The "me" part is kinda weightless while the body is a hard shell. Either I am smaller or the body has grown. We don't quite fit anymore. I got stuck in my ribcage so I didn't really float freely. The body tingles and I really don't feel like I've got arms or legs. More like a entity that is bursting with sensations. It was like a, well, like a total body orgasm, sort of, or something. The thing is, it was really satisfying, not scary. At the same time i sense the world ( in the dream ) moving around me. In the dream I saw the world from above, in motion. As I said, this happened twice in the dream, and as a transition from one scene to the next. But what happened? I've not read many people describing this, and the places where I read it put this in relation with SP. Am I semi-awake in REM as I move into another dreamscene, yet fortunate enough to not wake up entirely as before and as a result get a kick and headrush from the SP as a bonus to at last finally be on the step of proper lucid dreaming? It was really cool! The sensation stay in my body for a long time afterwards. Tingly and a little trembling. Lighthearted and happy! Like a proper kick. BTW. I don't do drugs or drink alcohol. This is my mind working without any artificial stimuli. I am looking forward to in the future gaining more control of my lucidity, and may the dreams be more pleasant as well, but this was the first time it really worked. What I really like to hear from you is about the physical part, but any input is welcome.

[rockerboy90]

Welcome to Dreamviews The first thing you described sounds alot like SP. Its easy to hallucinate during that period so thats pretty normal and happens to me alot. As for the second thing you described, ive never heard anything like that.. maybe someone here with more experience than me can tell you more about it.

[Southpaw75]

Yes. That would be great, as I said, the physical part is something I've not read much about. It was pleasure and brutality at once. I don't know if it was part of the dream, ie if my mind made up a lot out of some minor physical input or if it really happend. This is quite confusing. What I do know is that after I woke up I felt it in my body for a long time. And in my dream it felt very real, just like the rest of the dream.

[Southpaw75]

Just to shed some light onto these two occasions. Both happened at daytime and in a nap. So after studying this afterwards I came to the conclusion that the closest thing to a technique must have been WILD. The two mentioned experiences was not done on purpose. They just happened. So yesterday I decided to try to recreate this and test out my theory. I lay down, emptied my mind and it did work really well up to a certain point. I had no problem reaching the first steps of SP on two occasions. But they felt different each time. The first time I saw, or think I saw, images. The HI effect. But these came despite me not having really felt the more uncomfortable effects of SP. ( May just have been my imagination running wild. ) Felt some diffuculty breathing but not much. The next time ( as I lay down to sleep ) came about more like I've read that it should do. A wave rushing through the body, and a nasty suffocating feel. It was qiute weird, I knew that I was breathing sufficiently, yet I felt like I did not. I heard my breath real good. It was constrained, and it sure felt like that too. This was the real deal. I have no doubt about that. Unfortunately I also felt that my wife was about to wake up so I snapped out. I didn't want to scare her. Waking up to hear my strange breathing most likely would have freaked her out. Annoying to have missed the opportunity, but I'll have another go at it soon. How do you people cope with the breathing? I tried to ride it out, but it was rather uncomfortable.

[Dream scientist]

I call it an ultimate experience. For me, it is simply floating in utter ecstasy. As for the whole body thing, I'm not sure. That was a bit odd.

[yuriythebest]

yup the first sounds like SP. as for the second, seems you've invented your own amazing extasy filled way of changing scenes, congratulations and may you travel through your dreams like this all the time!

[Southpaw75]

Yeah. I'd like to. It was great. As I said though. I'm not sure what was dreams and what was physical. Was really cool. That's for sure. Working on WILD and is making progress. Feels like I'm close to getting it, but keep waking up just as things are starting to form in my head. Gets to excited by it all I guess.