I need help opening my "pineal gland" or (third eye)! Pleaseeeeee help!

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Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

I don't know. Maybe because it is a church and that is what you do. That is why I no longer go to the Sante Daime or even the native american peyote church anymore. They are just as bad. You eat peyote at sunset and have to sit in one position on the ground in a tepee until noon the next day, not sleeping or eating or drinking. You sit around a fire in the summer long after the effects wear off and the sun is beating down on the tepee, and you can't drink water or lay down. Then at noon they pass around a plate of raw deer meat mixed with corn and you have to eat a bite of that. It is their tradition, but I don't see the point of it for me. They explain that the circle is a magic circle that is protecting you from demons and stuff, and the songs are ancient magical songs that are also protective, or spontaneously created songs revealed in revelation. In the Sante daime church, the songs are songs that a Christian missionary a long time ago found through revelation while on ayahuasca, but you can't sing your own songs.

That is why I don't like organized religion. Even if it is based on psychedelics.

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That is all very interesting, thanks for sharing. I really had no idea that you had been a part of that church that I've always heard about, so I find it all very fascinating. But I couldn't agree more...there is way too much about organized religion that flat out doesn't make sense. When people stop questioning why they do the things that they do and merely operate on tradition and all logical reasoning goes out the door, I just can't be a part of such things.

Oh and regarding Delta...I don't know what I was thinking. I have actually been conscious many times in Delta, and was again last night. I actually find it to be rather unsettling, because it is such a slooow deep vibration and my brain feels heavy and almost depressed. Actually I guess Delta is the most easy brain wave to detect because it is the one furthest away from our normal waking frequency, so it feels so distinctly different. But I'm so used to enjoying such higher vibrational frequencies with the aid of certain substances that being conscious while in such a lower vibrational frequency like Delta almost registers as something negative or unpleasant. Do you know what I mean? Do you think that's just natural? Also the fact that I can always feel my teeth chattering away to the hum of the Delta frequency really drives me nuts. If I spend most of my nights doing this it's no wonder I wake with my jaw aching everyday.

There might be another reason why you wake up with your jaw aching everyday.. :D

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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

There might be another reason why you wake up with your jaw aching everyday.. :D

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Was that supposed to be some kind of sexual humor? The smiley is throwing me off. :hrm:

I need my wisdom teeth out...bad. I just keep putting it off and popping tylenol instead. Yes, I know I'm not the most responsible person. I'm pretty sure it's not normal to have teeth chattering like that every night, and damn it's a good thing I'm not normally conscious while it's occurring or I'd never get proper sleep.

Haha sorry if I offended you but I couldn't help myself. As far as I know chattering teeth make the jaw muscles relax so I don't think that's the cause.. I think it might be your wisdom teeth like you pointed out, they also cause my jaws to ache.. so...

Ok, new development...it seems that the teeth chattering can actually be used to detect my current brain state. Further exploration is necessary. When you guys set your jaw so that your teeth are just barely touching...can you feel the vibration? I'm not talking about your heart beat. There is a much faster sort of vibrating that can be detected. Perhaps when I'm asleep and in Delta it gets amplified and feels like chattering. Does anyone know of another explanation for this sort of teeth vibrating other than brainwaves? I'd really love to find out what this is all about.

Yeah I know what you're talking about, I can make my entire body vibrate like this, it feels pretty much like sleep paralysis, but I can do it whenever. It makes me flexible without stretching. In my experience muscles are actually pretty much like strings on a guitar, they vibrate and you can control the vibration by regulating the muscle tension, which is how I make my jaws or other musles vibrate. First time I've heard someone else talk about this tho.

As the brain extends through the entire body, and as there is such a thing as cellular memory, you could as well see the entire body as the brain and talk about the brain as if it was the body. The brains vibrations, or the body's vibration would come down to the same thing. Making your body vibrate at a certain rate will bring you from one mental state to the other.
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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

So how exactly does the pineal gland control death and rebirth?

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We all hear too much about the pineal gland and DMT. But what is important while we are living is the seratonin and melatonin. This is regulated by the cycles of light and darkness. It is our internal clock. Yes, while we are dreaming there is a little DMT. While we are visualizing likewise there is a tiny bit of DMT.

On the 49th day after conception, the embryo (or fetus? I get mixed up which one is which) becomes either male or female. Also the pineal gland becomes fully developed and DMT goes through the fetus's system. This is when I believe the soul enters the fetus. This also corresponds to the tibetan Book of the Dead's bardo teachings in which they say that it takes 49 days to become reincarnated. While Buddhism, like other religions, is against abortion because it is killing a living being and causing suffering and a causes bad karma, I believe that before the 49th day, it is still a part of the woman's body but after the 49th day it is its own living being.

When a baby is born, during labor as the baby is coming through the birth canal, likewise there is a flood of DMT through the baby's system...AND the mothers (if it is a natural childbirth). Also, when you die, DMT is released in the brain (if it is a natural death). Dreams also. So the soul enters and leaves the body with the help of the pineal gland.

It is very interesting how the pineal gland regulates sleep, awakening, death and rebirth.


As for the teeth chattering, I don't know what you are talking about. I sometimes have a feeling like my jaw and teeth disappear, or go soft, or turn into energy, when I start to go out of body. Perhaps that is similar? I don't know. It is as if it is the first part of my body to dissolve. However it might be just a release of all the tension I carry in my jaw usually.

That is a pretty interesting indeed, however, sounds more crazy to me than Tesla to be honest :shadewink:
Anyway, I don't see how reincarnation goes together with a population increase/decrease. Won't we run out of souls and bodies? And what if we had a collective consciousness, how do you know, that you didn't tap into the collective mind, and that you are tapping into someone else their memories, and that you are not really reincarnated? Could as well be, that all our memories are stored in a collective storage, and that reincarnation is an illusion based on this misconception.

So what kind of quality would one keep through the process of reincarnation?

What interests me the most tho, is how reincarnation and dreaming are related. If the pineal gland allows for the soul to seperate from the body, does this mean it is possible to decide to reincarnate before you actually died? Like you would fall asleep, dream, and then wakeup as a baby? Would this mean that it allows for your soul to already go to that world of dead people during a dream, before you die?

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Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba

So how exactly does the pineal gland control death and rebirth?

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Id like to suggest some reading on this topic by someone more knowledgeable than myself.

Book : Amazon.com: DMT: The Spirit Molecule: A Doctor's Revolutionary Research into the Biology of Near-Death and Mystical Experiences (9780892819270): Rick Strassman MD: Books

I checked it out at a local library after researching the topic for some months. If you are at all interested in psychedelics or transpersonal phenomena this book would be very interesting. It is written from a strictly scientific point of view however, so there is almost zero speculation. Strassman has another book which contains many of his speculations regarding the research described in this book.

Amazon.com: Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies (9781594772245): Rick Strassman MD, Slawek Wojtowicz, Luis Eduardo Luna, Ede Frecska: Books

This book has multiple authors and goes much deeper into the psychedelic strata so to say. I have not read this one yet although it is on my wish list :)


---Also, the heart begins to beat on the 49th day following conception. Strassman makes some comments on this in his DMT book though not lengthy. The heart, pineal, circulatory systems, and nervous systems all "go online" on that day. In conjunction with a release of DMT from the pineal, this event seems to have at least some incredible physiological significance.
Whether there is reincarnation or not, Buddhist tradition teaching about this 49th day marker loooong before science came along and confirmed also seems to give weight to this theory.

Can anyone provide any credible evidence that DMT is produced by the pineal gland?

Dr. Strassman wrote in his book, "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" that scientific studies confirmed that DMT is found in the brain. He also speculated that it could be produced by the pineal gland since all of its precursors could be found there, but no studies have confirmed or denied his guess.

Addendum by Rick Strassman

"I did my best in the DMT book to differentiate between what is known, and what I was conjecturing about (based upon what is known), regarding certain aspects of DMT dynamics. However, it's amazing how ineffective my efforts seem to have been. So many people write me, or write elsewhere, about DMT, and the pineal, assuming that the things I conjecture about are true. When I was writing the book, I thought I was clear enough, and repeating myself would have gotten tedious.

"We don't know whether DMT is made in the pineal. I muster a lot of circumstantial evidence supporting a reason to look long and hard at the pineal, but we do not yet know. There are data suggesting urinary DMT rises in psychotic patients when their psychosis is worse. However, we don't know whether DMT rises during dreams, meditation, near-death, death, birth or any other endogenous altered state. To the extent those states resemble those brought on by giving DMT, it certainly makes one wonder if endogenous DMT might be involved, and if it were, it would explain a lot. But we don't know yet. Even if the pineal weren't involved, that would have little overall effect on my theories regarding a role for DMT in endogenous altered states, because we do know that the gene involved in DMT synthesis is present in many organs, particularly lung. If the pineal made DMT, it would tie up a lot of loose ends regarding this enigmatic little organ. But people seem to live pretty normals lives without a pineal gland; for example, when it has had to be removed because of a tumor.

"In both these regards--the pineal-DMT connection, and endogenous DMT dynamics--we ought to know a lot more within the next several years due to the efforts of a research group being led by Steven Barker at Louisiana State University. He, with his grad student Ethan McIlhenny, are developing a new super-assay for DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, bufotenine, and metabolites. This assay will be capable of detecting those compounds much more sensitively than previous generations of assays. They're looking at endogenous levels in awake sober normals, to assess baseline values of these compounds. We should have some data from those samples within a year. They also will be looking at pineal tissue. Once we have some baseline data in normal humans in normal waking consciousness, comparisons can be made between those levels and levels in endogenous altered states, like dreams, near-death, and so on."

its extremely hard to nail it down with certainty because you cannot observe this actually happening. There are certain obstacles DMT has in our own body. For example dmt can not enter the bloodstream because it is immediately destroyed by monoamines. This is why people take mao inhibitors with ayahuasca. In order to directly confirm, one would have to extract dmt from the pineal while it is excreting dmt. It can freely explore the brain because of the pineals protection behind the blood-brain barrier and this is probably how dmt was discovered in the brain.
Also, there is no other viable candidate for the production of dmt in the brain. Yes, it is conjecture, but a damn well researched one.
This is all explained in Strassman's book of course. :)

when facing anything in life, face it with full depth of honesty. through deep honesty you gain access to a deeper and more truer form of meaning.
with profound honesty as awareness you cut through your person, you are able then to face reality with a much more profound meaning.
to do this kind of work you must use your honesty as awareness and not limited it to the personal. the deeper and the more whole sense of reality is beyond the personal. the personal knowledge can guide you and enable you as awareness the skills to face reality as awareness, but do not limit your sense of experience through the person. profound honesty is a form of opening that cuts through your person and allows you as awareness to be known and to be aware of the deeper meaning about yourself.

I should read that book, I've been meaning to. I've seen it on many bookshelves and always meant to read it. Maybe I will learn something. Well, from what I understand, and Chimp points out, is that endogenous DMT must come from somewhere in the brain because of the MAO. Everything I have heard is hear-say I admit. And I appreciate Nina for actually providing some serious honest words from the scientist who probably started all the urban legends that people take for fact. That is why we have to be smart and don't believe everything we hear about "opening" the pineal gland!

Then we can build an imaginary worldview that we hallucinate without even the help of psychedelics like DMT.

But I do know for a fact that DMT must come from behind the blood-brain barrier, hence the MAOI use in order to get effects. Like Chimp said, it is a well researched conjecture. I suppose that if what Strassman says is correct, and scientists don't know if DMT rises during dreams, meditation, death, etc. then only they would know, or DMT users.

It seems that DMT IS a near death experience. So, we know what DMT does to us if we take it. We know that we have DMT inside of us already. So maybe we infer that these paranormal experiences (near-death experiences, birth, death, giving birth, dreaming) are a result of DMT.

Maybe we infer that the pineal is the source of the DMT because it creates all the precursors and that DMT is only one atom off away from any of the other tryptomines that the pineal creates. And we know that the pineal is in the brain at the chakra where the yogis say that amrita comes from (amrita: literally means immortal or not-dying, also a nectar of immortality).

So, let this be a lesson for us.

But anyway, Chayba: Reincarnation is a mystery. the way I look at it is that it is like sparks from a fire, there is no limit to them. Population increase or decrease aside. I don't think that consciousness is a mathematical equation. Let us assume that the ocean has a certain amount of water in it but there could be more or less waves, it doesn't matter. A wave crashes on the shore and another takes its place. A dream can have any number of DCs. You asked a good question about the collective unconsciousness and memories. It is not the soul that reincarnates. It is the consciousness that is eternal. So what you propose could be one way of looking at it, but it always happens to YOU.

Reincarnation is crazier than Tesla, because he came from it. Did you know that towards the end of his life Tesla was treating himself with electric-shock treatment in order to try to live forever?

Ha! Reincarnation is crazier than Tesla because he came from it? Why do you want Tesla to be crazy so badly? To me that type of madness is more like the true soul of a scientist. The only way to discover is through experimentation. The only way to success is through failure. You call it crazy, I call it ambition. Some people try to live forever by just praying until a mystery substance oozes out of their brain which they call amrita and will grant them immortality. To most people this sounds even more crazy then electric shocks. Scientists today still use electric shocks for TMS (transcranial magnetic stimulation), to induce near-death experiences. The body and the brain are electrical.

Reincarnation might indeed be a mystery, but it is one of the most interesting ones, especially because it is related to the seperation of soul and body, and dreaming. The way you put it, as oceans and waves is a really interesting way to look at it, but then you say it is not the soul that reincarnates, but the consciousness that is eternal? What is the difference here?

About DMT and the body thanks for linking that book, I downloaded it and I'll check it out, but to me it is pretty obvious DMT is already in the body, or there would be no receptors for DMT in the first place. I don't need to be a doctor to figure this one out. I fail to understand the importance of the DMT molecule. Why does it matter where DMT is produced? Suppose DMT was produced in my balls, how would this change the situation?

Hey, don't take me too seriously when I poke fun at Tesla. I love the man and I think that the world would have been a much much better place if he wan't discredited. i even own a t-shirt that says "What would Tesla Do?" He was a crazy genius, and a visionary, and maybe even a mystic. But he was crazy. He had obsessive/compulsive disorder among other things, but that doesn't take away from his greatness. I am just poking fun. I mean no harm.

The soul is an experience of self/ego. It is what drives reincarnation but it dissolves into the clear light of Universal consciousness upon enlightenment. It is an illusion. I was reading somewhere today that for every 12 seconds a normal person has 10 seconds where he experiences a sense of self. We are not aware of the other 2 seconds. I don't know how true this is but I do know that the sense of self is transitory. The soul is the root of self-clinging and the fear of losing the self is what drives reincarnation. However, the soul, being illusionary, is not what is reincarnated, but assembled again and again by our desire to cling to form to give us the false sense of security. It is ironic that the only security lies in the eternal, which is consciousness, and out of a desire for security we seek incarnation which only leads to death. It is the impersonal consciousness that remains the constant. Just like waves rise and fall but the ocean remains.

The sense of self is created by five factors: form, feeling, perception, formations, and consciousness. It is built by these five ingredients. It is like a bunch of lines crossing to create a point. The point is not eternal and immortal, it is dependent on these five ingredients.

If DMT were created in your balls then your semen would be psychoactive.

The people don't pray until their brain oozes a mysterious substance they call amrita. They do kundalini yoga which activates all their glands and hormones to secrete. Perhaps this mysterious substance is DMT? Suppose that there are physical techniques to induce it to secrete? Suppose DMT shows you who you are before birth and after death? Suppose DMT reveals to you that "I am not my thoughts, thoughts come and go but I remain. I am not my emotions, emotions come and go but I remain. I am not my sensations, sensations come and go but I remain. I am not my bodies, bodies come and go but I remain. I am a radiant awareness in which thoughts, emotions, sensations, and bodies arise, abide, change, and pass away. Letting go of the feeling of self formed by thinking and believing any thought. Letting go of the feeling of self formed by feeling and believing any emotion. Letting go of the sense of self formed by sensing and believing any sensation. Letting go of any sense of self formed by identifying with and believing I am this body. That all transitory phenomena, all thoughts, emotions, sensations, and bodies do not define me. Letting all transitory phenomena flow, change, and disappear without me. Not resisting any experience, but letting it flow without me. Not clinging to any experience, just being a pure observer. Not controlling what I see. Not reacting to what I see. Not analyzing or interpreting what I see. No observer behind the seeing, just the seeing itself. Without the thought of self, the subtle network of thoughts creating the personality becomes transitory and dissolves. The sensation of dying arises when the thought-self fades away. Yet nothing can die. The ever changing river of experience merely continues to flow forever. There is nothing I have to fear, be angry about, or be sad about. Yet I can have empathy for those who identify with their bodies and are lost in their dramas. I can still live in and through my body and interact with others. Choosing to live in love and peace with others. Purifying thought of all addictive craving, negative condemnation, and fearful delusions, I am truly free."? DMT definitely does teaches us that.

The point is, I think, can we activate the pineal gland to show us a more expanded sense of who we are? As Nina pointed out, perhaps we might be flawed at using a materialist approach because we don't know if DMT is even created in the pineal. Although I am pretty sure that it is, we have no scientific proof. So perhaps we should instead approach it from a yogic approach. And see if there is a way to open the crown chakra. Is it just a coincidence that the crown chakra is the phowa path, the path used by advanced meditators to consciously release their bodies when their Earth missions are complete? It is also a vibrational chakra which helps people feel the distinction between body and consciousness, to learn how to ground in consciousness and release the subtle biological fear that so stresses humans who are going through some survival mode issues and economic uncertainty. This kind of fear appeared in human consciousness when they became "three brained beings". The cortex, limbic system, and r-complex are evolutionary brains layers over each other. The r-complex being what humans have in common with reptiles, the limbic system with mammals, and the cortex with primates, though most primates have a very thin proto-cortex and ours is thicker, having evolved for a longer time. The tri-brain has allowed humans to become the dominant multi-celled species on this planet, but it has come at a price. The cortex allows humans to extrapolate into the future and see threats to itself that are not based on immediate sensory here and now experience. This future seeing then visualizes those outcomes which the two primitive brains respond to, as if they were here and now, causing much stress, since because they are not here and now, they are not immediately solvable. The same mechanism that makes us salivate when we visualize a lemon which does not literally exist causes us to produce stress chemicals in our bodies and wear us down. There is an intermediate phowa practice where a person ejects his or her consciousness from the body with the intention of returning. It is not as permanent as the final ejection. After one has had this kind of experience, not based on belief, but on a clear direct personal experience, then one has a basis for ending this kind of biological fear. It is necessary for the tri-brain to "get this" so that a deeper peace is possible for this species. This phowa, which seems to be more possible now, allows us to visualize a part of ourselves to which death is impossible and thus generate a "tri-brain inner peace". It is the fourth state that allows the three to be one. Perhaps the phowa practice releases DMT?

I think there is a bigger reason as to why the proof of dmt in the pineal gland is not out or why it will never be fully looked into. Thats my personal opinion!

i register only to give you an answer.the lobe chakra is not the only one that is closed.all of them are closed except the entrance of the kundalini.you can't open them artificially.and drugs going to mess your subconcious not help as they correspond only to the reactive part of the brain not the analytical one.and most of the people in this forum and any forum are full of crap and hallucinations.and you can't meditate because your head it's full of crap you can't get rid of.most people don't meditate,theιr head is going to induction state same thing when you doing a work with your hands and your mind is somewhere else.they just not honest to themselves.and the first centre that can open is the one on the heart.if that one doesen't open the rest are not going to open.and the experience is painfull and take time.in the brow centre at some point you're feeling something like a hot piece of iron is crushing your head.
you can't guide yourself to this.two things opening the centres.huge amount's of pain
or realization to yourself.and i wouldn't go the painfull way.you're just going to burn.don't use the mind.not a lot of people can start with the mind.it is full of traps and tricks.and don't hear the crap that is attached to buddhism.we are not all one.you're a person god gave you an ego.why there is a god that is giving you something and wants you to get rid of it?
It is just that your ego is mailfunctioning.and because it is weak and broken you wanna differ from the world.can't find the way to be a part of it.
and dmt is not the cause of any activity.is the result of it.and the lobe was open till
when you were four to six.then shut down.
and dmt is not the cause of mental acivity it is the result.schizophrenics produce more dmt because of true mental activity.that is why every ancient culture respected mad people.
don't use the mind.mind is difficult.use another tool.use the sentiment.
try to feel yourself and when you learn how to feel yoursef maybe you will learn hw to
think of him.
Το Θεω δοξα.

I agree that heart honesty is first.

I don't think that full heart openness is always a good idea in an evil environment.

You enjoy speaking down to people who you perceive to be weaker or less advanced than you, but you push away anyone would would speak to you at your level.

By the way, pulling up old threads is against forum policy. This helps ensure that we maintain an appearance of freshness while discussing the same half dozen topics over and over again.

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Clearly you have no idea that cannabis and other drugs can be used as permission slips to be dropped into the right state of mind to download information or amplify bodily awareness. You are not cheating, you are giving yourself an "excuse" to drop your shields and drop into that state. You are actually doing the same thing with meditation. Even though for example DMT is produced in the pineal gland as a result of the state, does NOT mean that you cannot consume DMT artificially as a permission slip to induce that state of mind where your crown is blown open and opening the chakras inside-out.

Drugs are not going to mess with your mind unless you allow for it, either consciously or subconsciously. In fact, some might even give you great lessons. To use your own terms, "why did god create plants that expand our awareness?"

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and you can't meditate because your head it's full of crap you can't get rid of

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Isn't that why most people meditate?

Just because you have decided that this is your truth, don't make it everyone else's.

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Originally Posted by tsiouz

god gave you an ego.why there is a god that is giving you something and wants you to get rid of it?

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To create obstacles for yourself so that you can focus your experiences. I agree though – you will lose your ego when you are supposed to, either if it's seems like it's by an accident or not. But opening your third eye is not equal to losing your ego – though stopping giving in to the ego will allow you to increase the amount of information you download & perceive.

first of all.I didn't mention any full heart openness and honesty.second kindness and honest are not relevant.What i said is try to use the sentiment because its quicker than the mind.in fact one second of sentiment is equal to twenty years of thouhs. i dont try to pretend anything more advanced than anybody.the firt seal is in the area of the heart.if that one doesen't open no centre does.simply because a lobe open with the heart centre locked going to drive you nuts very Very quick.plus is not possible.any concentration in the lobe further shuts down the centre.as for the other reply cannabis and other drugs shuts down the analytical part of the brain and activate the reactive which on base has the reptilian.when you're using drugs you raising up a shield you don't
lower anything.this is not meditation is induction state.most of the people confusing induction with meditation.meditation is the most active state of mind.active not passive.because of the upbringing of the reptilian centre on the drugs subconcious is
getting filled with useless information so drugs gonna mess your head always.you don't control the flow of infromation from the subconcious because information to the subconcious are coming only from the non-concious.the information from the concious
to the sub-concious are coming always coded.the start of true meditation is to try to clear the crap that the subconcious has recorded so archetypical paterns can emerge from the collective to the non concious.You don't lose your ego.your ego is lost and broken.you need to find your ego.indians were using coke a part of rituals and preparation.greeks hindu chinese japanise and indians were using the fourth way.
most people don't maditate they get to an induction state.creating obstacles to your self is a process of polarity.from the one side of the axis to the other.Hermetic writings explain everything.you gonna go nowhere bouncing from the one side to the other.you need to find yourself not lose him.
Nobody of you is going to open a third eye.only hallusinations.
work on the sentiment.if the heart chakra doesen't open no one is going to open
Το Θεω δοξα.

Are you saying we should use sentiment to open the heart chakra? And when can we be sure this is done, when can you move onto the other chakras such as the third eye?

Meditating with breathing exercises and using sentiments WHILE meditating should then also be effective. right?

No.You can't meditate.There are four centers in the human body.Mental sexual sentimental and instict-kinetic.Sexual is carying the most strong and finesse energies to the human body.is called sexual because of the ability to reproduce but imagine something Like a large battery in your body which give energy to all the centers and supports your body.sexual is the only centre with the instict kinetic that is remains open in a person.that is propably the reason all the movements of humanity such revolts and changes are based on the sexual.sentimental is the second fastest one closed and the fastest one open.instict controls all the processes of your organism has the same base with kinetic and kinetic is triggered by the rest of the centres.instinct is the fastest one.sentimental is locked very very quick from the birth and follows the mental after the sixth year of age.infact babies starting to imitate parents and they getting dumb in the process.the four centers respond to the archetype of the cross mental on top sexual in the bottom sentimental in the one side of the body and instict kinetic in the other.Mental is the slowest centre has two poles one positive and one negative left and right hemisphere.but if you split the brain in front and back the one is the analytical able to make the most amazing calculations and abilities and synchronize the two poles in harmony which shuts down after the sixth year maybe eight.this is why you see young children learning very fast and an adult very slow.the reactive one which part of it is the reptilian remains open cause its nessesairy for survival.the reactive works more like (imagine yourself swedish guy an axis) an axis with two poles one black one white.its quick enough to choose stupidly enough beetween two choices.when the man was primitive enough and had to avoid an enemy choosing the one or the orher.but when the speech came because the reactive doesent have any colours in a palette except two opposites the reactive started to mailfunction and then the awfull truth about humanity happened.the reactive part started to close the analytical one.the irony of this is that the reactive part is not based on imagination is based on logic.logic and paranoia together in a form of polarity everything black and white.This is why you see the most paranoid men like hitler napoleon ect sound always logic this is why you see in the tv arguments based on logic besides the world is collapsing again for infinite maybe time this is why when you saw matrix you Feel how possible is for humanity to sleep with open eyes this is why you see people go to their jobs like robots and you know even how they are going to die except if an accident or an injury happens.reactive part is based on reaction,on fear. is filling the sub concious with garbage and blocking the analytical one to put helpfull information in your dreams.and because only the sexual and the instinct centre remains open the only information that can bypass the subconcious are sexual and that through the mirror of the reactive part.this is why a psychiatrist say that all the dreams you see is a result of libido.Now The part when somebody is meditating is when he's tuning all of his centre's to the same channel.but since the only one working properly and that not always is the sexual,meditation is impossible.The stance of the lotus is a stance desinged to force the energy to the sexual with the possibility to unblock the trap that
the rest of the centres put to the sexual and the chance that the sexual going to unblock the rest of the centres..oh and i said use the sentiment because of two reasons. first its faster then the mental.one second of thought is twenty years of sentiment.second is the centre that follows the sexual so is the next one.third the process of opening an energy centre is chartographed in the body.it happens to you you don't do it.most of the people believe that when a centre is opening you are becoming smarter psychic abilities and all that crap.but the truth is that when a person unites his ego FINDS his ego centres are opening as a result.they are not the cause they are the result.what you heard about near death experiences and accidents
that opens centres is because of the bypass of the instinct (one secons of instinct is twenty years of thought except if sentimental centres are unlocked) which is a very dangerous thing to do because it is more likely that you are going to die.So your question propably is going to be how you can open the rest of the centres.if you want the answer let me know.

This may sound a tad ridiculous, but laying down quite usually will easily do the trick. The completely neutral body positioning balances out your ethereal flows, and you may begin to feel an overwhelming, yet loving vibration spread throughout your being. This vibration is GOOD.

I typically practice this when I feel a strong vibration in my chest, lower back or forehead. I'm also prone to envisioning vague, yet obvious fractal forms and hearing otherworldly music. However, these are just signs that your chakras are flowing correctly and at an astounding rate as well. Good luck