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      Dreamscape

      When I was in high school, my friends and I were involved in a thing called the dreamscape. We consorted with the "wiccans" and goths, but we were a group unto ourselves, apart from the occultist pop culture of the time. At that ime, it was understood that we did not talk about it with others, but now I find the need to explore the dreamscape again and I have no fellow explorers, as my friends from high school went their disparate ways. I therefore have decided to tell this community about my experiences in hopes that someone else here will know what I am talking about and give me a hand. I will keep it short for the sake of readability.

      The dreamscape is closely related to the astral plane, and therefore related to lucid dreaming, if somewhat indirectly. It is organised in much the same way the internet is, only it is made of something called mindscapes, rather than computers. These are connected through the void to form the dreamscape. A mindscape itself is quite like a dream scene; you create the layout, rules, and to an extent, the accessability of your own mindscape. You can then travel there through a dream state, and interact with the environment and with others who enter your mindscape. As is the nature of the astral, the more time you spend visualizing your mindscape, the more solid it becomes. Having many people there can increase the firmness, but it can also be shaped around their will to an extent. As I understand, there are actual mortal dangers associated with this mode of travel, so it is not for the flippant dreamer, but for the most part it is benign. Parapsychological-type abilities are greatly enhanced in this state, as well as extrasensory perceptual abilities, so if you have any of these things occour in waking life, you would be quick to learn their use in the dreamscape. I discovered that my mother also participated in this realm, though she had different words for everything. So I ask anyone here: Does this sound familiar to you? I need help in this arena. If you think you know what I'm talking about, please post, and I'll ellaborate.

      .............this isn\'t a game, please be serious here.............

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      Re: Dreamscape

      Hello,

      I'm familiar with this concept. Some compare it to the internet, others use a video game as a metaphor. Basically, you create an altered reality which others can visit - and even contribute to, upon their visit to your "reality." It can be modified and built upon by those who have access to it.

      I don't think you need a form a group/cult to participate in dreamscapes. I've known people who merely need to issue or accept an invitation to enter the dreamscape of another.

      I've done it myself, but personally find it somewhat unnerving because I'm subject to the reality which is created by the "author" or "artist" of the dreamscape. I understand there are ways around being subject to it, but it's still a little uncomfortable. I wouldn't do it again unless I had someone whom I really trusted in my "network."

      Maybe you could start with one person whom you really trust and work from there?

      ~Deja

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      That's exactly how it started, and there was an unfortunate accident that rendered me incapable of returning; I'm trying to find a way to remedy this now. Here's what happened. Be warned, it's kina wierd.

      I had discussed the dreamscape with some close friends of mine, and expressed my interest in joining them. The one who got us started on the topic had been visiting all her life, and she said it was not a wholly pleasant experience. I wanted to join for her support as much as my own desire for exploration. One night it just happened; it wasn't exactly planned. I found myself in surrounding that she had described. I actualy descended down to the ground as I entered awareness. It was a forest of sparse, thick trees under a dense canopy. The light was somehow ambient; sourceless. I turned around to examine my surroundings and saw a mirror. It was very large, and framed in an archway, sided with marble pilliars. As I approached it, feeling drawn to it, I noticed a dark breach along one edge, almost as if it was a door slighly ajar. Comming closer, I saw my reflection, but it was certainly not true. It seemed almost like a Piccaso painting, all angles and harsh colors, nothing in the right place. I reached out my hand and touched it, and in an instant I was surrounded my fragments of mirror, like I was inside some bizzare irregular polyhedon. Every facet reflected that same distorted image back at me. It was not just terrifying, it was terror itself. I directly woke up to find myself paralyzed, and still full of panic. It was my first case of sleep paralysis, but it was unlike any case I have experienced since. It lasted for about three hours; I was unable to move or even form a coherent thought. Sometime later, when I could move again, I passed out, exhausted.

      The next day at school, I came accross my friends talking about what had happened to them the night before. Before I heard what they were talking about, I told them about my experience, as I was sure that it was the dreamscape she had described to me. I my story unfolded, she went white as a sheet. "Oh my God, that was you?" She started apologizing, and between the sorrys of Oh-my-Gods, she told me that it was her doing. She was telling my other friend about that very event, but did not recognize the dream figure I had taken, especialy from behind. I had startled her and intimidated her with my sudden appearance, and she reacted out of instinct, trapping me.

      Ever since that night, I have been unable to recall any of my visits to the dreamscape, though I have had several people tell me that they have seen me there. I had been dubbed a "blind dreamscaper" and was no longer actively involved with the dreamscape conversations, though my "abilites" continued to grow in waking life. Things like telepathy, clairvoiance, empathy, and energy awareness became commonplace for me, and I have since used them in day to day life. We were constantly hounded by entities in waking life, and I would participate then, but I still have not been able to open my eyes in the dreamscape since. For all I know, I could still be quite active there, but I couldn't say. I want to see again, and if you can think of any way to help me achive this, I would profusely grateful. Thanks for taking the time for such a long read, I haven't discussed this much with anyone before; there was a lot to get off my chest.

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      wow, thats amazing.... i mean, the way i thought of creating your own world was something i thought might be possible after one died, but i never bothered to think it would be possible in a dreamlike state... i find it trully incredible, and this will be the first thing i'll try to work on tonight. Creating my own universe has probably been the biggest of my life's dreams put in the ever existing "impossible" section of my thoughts. Now that it may exist, it'll deffinitely be one of my bigger goals

      If anything interresting happens i'll let you know!

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      Hello,

      That isn't weird at all....nothing is when it comes to dreams

      I must admit I'm somewhat worried that you willfully enter a dreamscape which you know you are unable to recall. Since you cannot remember what takes place, you cannot know how it is affecting your waking life.

      Until you're able to have lucid recall during these experiences, I would not enter the dreamscapes.

      To regain lucidity while "there," you should look to the situation that locked you out. In your case, this would be the mirror entrapment. If your friend did not return to completely release you from the mirror, then your cognizance could still be "locked" in that reality - even if you travel elsewhere in the dreamscape.

      Remember, your friend was surprised when she heard you were there. Therefore, she did not release you before you were made aware that she entrapped you. She simply apologized and did not return to the dreamscape to "undo" the damage, so to speak.

      I would ask your friend to enter her dreamscape (not you) and re-create the mirror while envisioning you in it - just the way she did when she entrapped you. At that point, she should metaphorically pull you from the reflection. This should work based on the prinicpal of returning to the Source.

      If this friend is no longer accessible, then you would need to re-create the mirror imagery yourself in LD, which might be frightening to you since you referred to it as "terror itself." You can reduce the anxiety by creating a pleasant environment in your LD before releasing yourself from the mirror.

      This method of recreation of dreams to free memories and lucidity has been used with success for several situations, such as people with recurring nightmares, visits from unwelcome visitors, and dealing with trauma. I think it might be very useful for your situation.

      ~Deja

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      This sounds like an absolutely amazing concept. I will admit that I'm completely baffled and would love to discuss this further with both of you.

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      ...or just a PM would be great.

      Take care...

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      Deja,

      Thanks for the advice! I somehow didn't even think of recreating the trap; I was too focused on trying to visualize myself out of it. My friend did try to release me, in fact she spent weeks trying. Unfortunately, I haven't spoken to her in years, but maybe my own aversion to the situation is the only thing keeping me trapped. Come to think of it, I have felt some sort of need for confrontation for a long time now. Maybe that's what I need. Cool! I get to face terror head on! I haven't done that in a while, thanks for pointing out that mental block!

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      Although i have never heard of this or experiences nything like this (although i can i spose ud call it save my dreamscapes like on a computer to revist at a later time) my adivce wud be to try and go about it logically, Can you rember what if first felt like whe you were there? like a signature of that place if u can, try building a door or gateway that you associate with this feeling when you are in a very solid LD. If you can do what i do and Save your dreamscape then you may have a permant base and link to this other plane which you could build on. Im very interested in this nd im gona try find out as much as possible about it, id love to talk to u about it at some point, im an msn user of [email protected] if u want to hit me up sumtime. Good luck with getting there


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      Last night was interresting. I was trying to use WILD as a way to get into my own dreamscape, and i got very close had i not lost consciousness. I at least got to see glimpsess of my own version, i felt as if i was half there, but i couldnt fully release my mind to forget about what i was feeling in the physical world. I can tell you this though, getting to create your own world is quite rewarding as it is. Im going to attempt it again tonight.

      And oh yea, another thing i forgot to mention was how surprised i was with using a mirror as a defense mechanism for a dreamscape.. i mean, your friend must have been quite creative to think of something like that. anyways, i already thought out small black orbs that pretty much roam freely over world (as a defense i mean). I figured if they sent pulses of low vibrations that it would be alright, since i know lower vibrations usually relate to a sense of fear, like the kind one would get into a nightmare. *shrugs* i guess i'll find out soon enough.

      heh, i relaize how insane i might sound to some people after saying that, but hey, the imagination is a wonderful thing

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      Very interesting! Do you have any links where I can read more about this online? I'd feel better responding to this post with more backround information. On another note: damn! I just had a test with the word flippant in it and I couldn't figure out what it was from the vague context, now I realize I answered wrong, lol!


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