My previous post on shared dreaming: http://www.dreamviews.com/beyond-dre...ed-dreams.html
This topic is made to collect ideas from people who experienced shared dreams. Main target is to evolve shared dreaming to a higher level.
People who are new to shared dreaming are welcome too, your reports of attempts and its results are very valuable.
I am participating in a group of lucid dreamers, we are exploring shared dreaming and other beyond dreaming stuff. So in this topic I will highlight some of the conclusions that I came to throughout our experiments.
For my self I already proved that Shared Dreaming does exist.
Many people are wondering, why nobody proves that shared dreaming exist. It is hard to prove because there is no fixed definition of this. This is a very complex process, there are many events that look like shared dream, but they have a logical explanation behind them and are not shared dreams. On the other part there are shared dreams where I see no logical explanation at all and I cannot deny those facts.
For example, when two people are communicating for a long period of time, chances for them to dream of the same event are very high. You may think that they dream of the same event because they talked about it, but not always. Then can dream of the same event that they never talked about to each other. Perhaps their conversation affects their thinking in someway that they are unintentionally desiring to dream of something similar. I cannot explain this phenomena yet, so I will leave it for future.
The other fake shared dream is a dream where one person tells to another about what he is going to make him dream of. This works especially good with horror dreams. Explanation of this is very simple, you dream of what you intent to dream. When somebody tells you that he is going to come and make you dream of 'A' and 'B' nightmare, you might to set your self for that scenario, depends on your level of understanding of dreaming and shared dreaming. In other words, he creates an intention for you. It is very easy to escape this if you understand lucid dreaming.
Whenever I see a similarity between our dreams, I try to take it as skeptical as possible. But results that we had are impossible to deny. When you both dream of the same location, you both do the same actions, same colors, same people. When dream subject/topic is insanely weird, chances of few people dreaming of the same weird event are so low and still we do dream of if together, sometimes 3 people at the same time.
However I never experienced a shared dream where we communicated just like in waking life. I was unable to go through all person memories of waking life or all of his dreams, just some of them or one of them. In the beginning it might sound like something simple. Its not simple at all, when you get into shared dreaming, you face one unknown weird event after another. Everything is hard to comprehend, you might feel relaxed or you might feel scared and unwelcome. But I am willing to improve this ability my whole life, there is a long way to go, but it is a very interesting journey. Remember, its not a switch, you do not turn that option in your mind, you have to learn, understand, experience and develop your shared dreaming.
These are some of the confirmed syncs that we got, located in different parts of the world.
I will put 'a' and 'b' as examples.
We had moments where 'a' dreamt of 'b' waking reality memories.
Where 'a' dreamt of 'b' dream and at the same time 'b' dreamt of 'a' dream. (or we both observed the same dream or one of us observed another's dream)
Where 'a' dreamt of 'b' past or future dreams.
Where 'a' dreamt of 'b' past or future waking reality memories.
Time zone is not a problem
You might think that living in different time zones will make shared dreaming impossible - you are wrong. It wont affect your results, simply because the other person always stays alive. No matter if he is sleeping or not, he is there, online :) You might pickup his waking life memories instead of his dreams. You can go for naps and try to catch his sleeping time, 2 hour nap is more then enough.
How to link with another person
Another big question, how do you link with another person, how do you find him, how do you get into his dream?
Out of all methods that I tried, full name of another person was the best way to link to him. I think the reason is that a person hears that phrase through-out his life, it is always important to him. However if a person has a nickname and it is valuable to him, he uses it for some time then he can also be connected to his nickname. So first would be name, second would be nickname. Photo or geo location did not help me to find a specific person.
Do you need an invitation?
No, I think no. I tried this with a person whom I know, this person does not know that I am interested in lucid dreaming and so on, rarely recalls dreams and does not believe in lucid dreaming. I tried to see what he is dreaming of, it was hard because he recalls rarely. But couple of times I got the exact same dream as he did. I know this is not a big proof, but for now it is enough. I am going to explore and learn more about it.
Dream Guardian
There is a myth that there is something like a dream guardian, personally I encountered it. It is hard to explain, you almost found the person you were looking for, you know he is there for sure, you can feel his presence, however you cannot pass that invisible barrier. It is a definite NO when you try to pass it, you even cannot form some kind of desire to pass through it. Your attempts of getting over it fail before end thinking of them. Really, this is not easy to explain in words, a feeling that you have to feel. It just breaks any desire of getting there, you want to leave and do something else.
Between dreaming and waking reality
I would say this is the most important aspect of shared dreaming. For me it is very important to be in that state, I almost felt asleep, but I am still aware of waking world around me(nREM WILD is the definition that I can choose from this forum). Or when I already woke up, but not completely woke up, going back there(DEILD is the definition that I can choose from this forum).
Some people would not agree with me here, even members of our shared dreaming group think different of this matter. The best syncs and best shared dreams all happened to me in this state. I was dreaming and at the same time was partially aware of my waking reality.
There are many other ideas on shared dreaming, but I am not ready to share them. We have to explore, explore and explore. More more and more...
See you there fellow lucid dreamers :)
