I need help with PSI

**Maufonseca** · 11-05-2005 10:45 PM

I want to learn how to control energy. I want to learn PSI, but I dont know where to start.

Can PSI be dangerous? Or, can it be against my religion (I am catholic)?

I need an expert to answer my qustions.

EDIT: Also, I think I couldnt do it. The principal reason is that I had never seen anyone doing this (even on TV), so I dobout if its real, I mean, chronokinesis.... Controlling time, its kinda crazy thing.... Making balls from nothing, controlling water, fire, ect
I want to have some proves. I belive in LD, but its hard to belive some of the PSI abilities (I belive in the Aura one)

**Raven** · 11-06-2005 09:41 AM

The first step into learning psi abilities is believing in them.

**Cyclic13** · 11-06-2005 10:34 AM

Yeah, PSI reminds of something else I know which I'll let you know at the end. First, you cant seem to show anyone that PSI exists you just have to take their word for it. No proof, nothing but unsubstantiated claims. So if you can believe in something that no one can show you and you cant show anyone else but you're sure it exists through talking with others about it, then PSI might be right for you.

If you live in the world of logic, however, you probably aren't interested without some proof first, eh? Now you know how an atheist views religion as well.

**Maufonseca** · 11-06-2005 05:12 PM

I understand it a better now, I entered PsiPog-net and learned a lot from it. I understand its not all like "magic" it has to do with altering molecules around our body, or using our body.
I have another question. I want to learn some abilities, but not very big or strong ones. I want something that can not harm myself or another person accidentaly. Also, I dont want to hear/see or interact with "spirits".
I want to live my life as I live it now, peacefully and happily, but with some "fun" extras, just for "fun" porpuses. The probles is that I dont know which abilities I should learn without altering my life (in a big way).

PS: I alredy been able to make an non-visible psi-ball

**Cyclic13** · 11-06-2005 06:24 PM

if its 'non-visible' (I think you mean: invisible), then how do you know it exists? I get goosebumps all the time when I listen to music I like but it doesnt mean I'm letting out energy around my body, its simply a chemical impulse in my brain as I'm sure your way of feeling a so-called energy ball is.

If you cant see, smell, touch, taste, hear, or in some other way feel something, then I'm sorry that something doesnt exist. Even if you happen to feel one of those senses it doesnt necessarily mean its there. I've seen and felt many a thing whilst on many different kinds of psychedelic drugs but that doesn't mean that they actually exist. Just a piece of advice in anything you believe in: Never go all in with beliefs because when it becomes time to call, you are bound to lose all your chips. (If you dont know poker then that wouldnt make any sense, but simply put: never believe too much in anything, or you will be let down)

**Maufonseca** · 11-06-2005 07:14 PM

well, I actually felt it, and yes, maybe it was only my imagination, but I actually feeled a magnetic thing that separed my hands, but tha<t was not my question, I anted to know wich abilities I should try to learn, that can in a big way affect my way of life

**kimpossible** · 11-06-2005 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Maufonseca
I anted to know wich abilities I should try to learn, that can in a big way affect my way of life

Critical Reasoning.

There is no other ability that you can learn that will effect your life in any greater way.

**Cyclic13** · 11-06-2005 07:42 PM

lol kim I can tell the more I post here the more we are gonna get along

dont know if the feeling is mutual I know you mentioned before you depise all equally which I can respect.

**Maufonseca** · 11-06-2005 07:49 PM

Originally posted by kimpossible

Critical Reasoning.

There is no other ability that you can learn that will effect your life in any greater way.

Whats that?

**kimpossible** · 11-06-2005 07:52 PM

Critical Reasoning is in such short supply around these parts, Sol, that I can suspend my rule of equal-opportunity-despising temporarily for you. My EOD is designed to keep me out of trouble with the extreme liberals anyway. . . And since they issue one-time dispensations to equal-opportunity - well, heck, so can I!

Errr - wait. That was logical. I guess it must not work that way.

Now if you'll please leave me alone, I need to go back to believing I'm a fairy with pretty shiny glittery wings. It's a full time job being a fairy with pretty shiny glittery wings, you know.

**Cyclic13** · 11-06-2005 07:53 PM

use a dictionary or whatever you have you but if you cant understand the term 'Critical Reasoning', I am utterly baffled how you mustered up the knowledge to unlock the ability to make a "PSI ball". If english isn't your first language I appologize for being overly-critical but I teach english here in japan and it befuddles me sometimes how poor native speakers english actually is.

**kimpossible** · 11-06-2005 07:55 PM

You posted whilst I was replying to yours, Sol... So be sure to read up!

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Here, Maufonseca, I'll do this half of your homework for you:

http://www.answers.com/critical%20reasoning

**Cyclic13** · 11-06-2005 08:00 PM

thx kim (obviously for the compliment not the definition)

**Maufonseca** · 11-06-2005 08:43 PM

Thanks kim!

**cd27** · 11-07-2005 03:24 PM

i would be willing to tach you if you would be willing to listen, do the research i give you, and practice.

cd

**Cyclic13** · 11-07-2005 05:07 PM

I think we'd all prefer some evidence of your abilities before you can claim to TEACH anyone...(not TACH: I dont think you meant to measure the rotations per minute of a rotating shaft of his)

I really dont like being hard on people but what I hate worse is when one sits there pompously and claims something without backing it up with hard evidence. You would make a terrible lawyer cd27.

(in a bizarro universe where cd27 somehow passes the bar and becomes a defense attorney; Lets take a look at his first case in closing...)

---reenactment already in progress---

cd27: your honor, my client said he didnt do it isn't his word alone enough? What reason would he have to lie?

Judge:Im sorry your client has had a history of this kind of behavior and the evidence against him is overwhelming

cd27: Your honor, I have seen the evidence clearing his name! Sure, it cant be reproduced for the court, but you have to believe me!

Judge: In case number 56977043, The case of 'The State vs. Psinetcism'; the jury finds the defendant... guilty on all charges and sentences him to 20 consecutive life sentences without parole. And Mr. cd27 I find your inability to provide any substantiated evidence for your client appalling, and am hereby suspending your practitioners license, and fining your firm 300million dollars AND no less than 2years in a state correctional facility for contempt of court. (Bangs Gavel)

---end dramatic reenactment---

On top of that you stink of blind arrogance, nothing smells worse in my opinion. Its ok if you were just living out your everquest-like fantasy alone but you are trying to act like you have some sort of higher understanding to prove to everyone and still dont back it up with anything but your words.

**cd27** · 11-07-2005 05:37 PM

the only way i could "prove" anything to you, i if i demonstrated it, which i can not for several reasons. one, i don't have the equipment to pick it up, two, i don't have the money to send it to you or anyone else, three, i don't have an inport link, so i can't put it on the internet, and four, even if i showed you, you'd still be skeptical and try to explain it away with simple explainations of nature. can you find any better ideas for doing this? if so, then let me know, if not, then take your own advice.

cd

**Cyclic13** · 11-07-2005 05:53 PM

All those stupid videos on psipog are of pinwheels that move based off the simple laws of science: kinetic heat from your hands heating the air around one side of the pinwheel while the other side is cool causing the wheel to spin. A simple parlor trick, easily recreated... not impressed

and the Psi-ball (pictures mind you) anyone with photo shop can have fun with that...

**cd27** · 11-07-2005 06:02 PM

see....you have jsut proved my point. no matter what i show you...you will find fault with it. so let's get this over with....i can't prove you anything, and your remarks about how you want proof are useless...so let's get back on topic.

cd

**kimpossible** · 11-07-2005 06:03 PM

Not to be too 'jump-in-ie' here, but I have an open offer to come to the event and bring the proper equipment to document it.

**cd27** · 11-07-2005 06:10 PM

and as i have already said....i have a psychic block which prevents me from going as far as i'd like with psionics. i have been able to do teh very small initiation things lik a psiball, but it only lasted at max 10 seconds, and i have nearly Astral projected several times, these and a few more have allowed me to believe and understand enough to know what i'm talking about and to know that it's real. the girl asked for help, i offered lessons. i do not need a skeptic who can't get what he wants anyways coming in here and saying it's all bull crap (refer back to the rules when you entered this forum....if you can't say something nice and you know that you can't get what you want-thus a meaningless post-then don't even touch thta reply button).

kimpossible, sorry, i am not interested, because even though i have been able to do the things i say, i can only do htem to small degrees because of this psychic block. because of this block it would be a waste of your time, effort, adn money to come over here. your equipment can not registed the small amount of power that i can produce...which is quite remarkable seeing as i can get past teh block at all.....i would however like to ask you if you could help me in making a more physical device which could produce the same results but at full and maximum strength.

cd

**Cyclic13** · 11-07-2005 06:11 PM

Im trying to tell you that there is no topic without some sort of proof... You are just preying on the easily fooled and I'm sorry but I cant sit idly by, and watch that happen. If you were offering LD lessons then I wouldn't say anything because as I said in a previous post; it takes place in an unshared reality/existence where proof cant be coughed up so we have to take each others word for it. Your supposed theory however, takes place in a shared reality so with statements like yours, comes a great responsibility to back it up with proof. I cant understand how you dont see that?

It would be extremely naive of anyone to just buy into your claims without wanting proof. Its one thing to be a skeptic its another to have the blind leading the blind. If I see some sort of actual proof, hell, I'll bow down and be your first student of whatever its called now...Psinetcism (sounds like Cynism which Im already a subscriber of).

**cd27** · 11-07-2005 06:23 PM

hmmm..i understand your response here. however, i have not the money nor the experience i ned in computer electronics, programming, and otehr such things to produce my already designed prototype. if i did, i'd be famous by now.

cd