Collective Dreaming

[psychosteveo2]

I read what the main site said about collective dreaming, and i can tell you from personal experience that it is very real. I have an identical twin brother (which may help establish some sort of link) but when we were young (5 years old or so) we would decide on a fun place to go in our dreams (roller skating, swimming, bowling,etc.). When we both awoke, we could both say exatcly where we went, descriptions of people there, and both could remember certain events that happened there (once my brother got into a fight with a kid at a rollerrink in a dream). It was very cool, but no longer happens because we are older and stopped this practice. If anyone has any questions about my brother and I's experiences (happened more than once) feel free to reply with a question. If you have any sort of other information on this phenomenon, PLEASE post.

[Barbizzle]

Hey, Im mocing this into the beyond dreaming forum because it there is no codl ahrd proof that this type of dreaming exists. Please feel free to PM me if you are still questioning why I moved this thread. Also, you will get acctual responces and not a debate on wheater it is real or not in the beyond dreaming section.

[Leo Volont]

I myself have had a Shared Dream. Decades ago when I was still a student in college, I must have gone to bed hungry and so I dreamt of raiding the Cafeteria in the middle of the night. There I met an acquaintence of mine with the same idea. I had been coming from one direction and she from the other. When we met, we stopped and talked for a minute. The next day, in Real Life, when we met in the hallway, our eyes lit up and with both spoke at once, describing our Dream and going over the remembered dialogue. There could have been no mistake about it. But such a dream has little bearing upon those who want to join up with specific people in their dreams. In the case of my Shared Dream, the common element was the Place, not the persons. so, perhaps the trick of having Shared Dreams is to decide upon a meeting place. and then later decide who has shown up or not. Probably the best procedure would be to exchange names and then to engage in the most arbitrary and unpredictable 'small talk'. It would certainly spoil it if you were to publish beforehand what you would want to say or do upon meeting somebody.

[psychosteveo2]

Well my and my brother would just think of a place, we were more mildly lucid because we knew we were dreaming but just went with the flow of the activity and never tried to control anything. As to how we met, we would think of, lets say a roller rink (we had only been to one) and sooner or later we would both be there. We look around and then find each other. However, sometimes only one of us would arrive due to the other one going somewhere else. I think the main reason it worked was due to the fact of mutually deciding on where we would go before going to bed. Kinda how you state where you wanna go, then think about it, to lucid dream by yourself. Also about that meeting in the cafeteria, is that really possible to meet someone without ever seeing them before in your life? Like is is possible that you two shared like the same dream realm (cafeteria) though you never met? I find that so weird, but cool, because its like me and my brother's experience.

[FluBB]

i know this is a really dumb question, but what if a lot of the DCs in non lucid dreams and some Lucids are all real people somewhere in the world, and maybe we percieve them differently or something...

[icuurd12b42]

Originally posted by FluBB i know this is a really dumb question, but what if a lot of the DCs in non lucid dreams and some Lucids are all real people somewhere in the world, and maybe we percieve them differently or something... Can you imagine the implication of such an idea?

[psychosteveo2]

Originally posted by FluBB i know this is a really dumb question, but what if a lot of the DCs in non lucid dreams and some Lucids are all real people somewhere in the world, and maybe we percieve them differently or something... Like a World of Warcraft for the mind! Interesting idea. All the players in the game seem to you like ai bots, but are really humans playing all over the world in one common area.

[blade5x]

Originally posted by FluBB i know this is a really dumb question, but what if a lot of the DCs in non lucid dreams and some Lucids are all real people somewhere in the world, and maybe we percieve them differently or something... I've thought about that... like if alot of the people I meet or am by in my dreams are actually real people in the world experiencing a dream in the same "Dream Area" or "Astral Plane Area" as I am.

[Distant Clone]

Originally posted by FluBB what if a lot of the DCs in non lucid dreams and some Lucids are all real people somewhere in the world What if life is one giant shared dream?

[Yatahaze]

Originally posted by Distant Clone What if life is one giant shared dream? What if my grandma has wheels and is an autobus?

[Yatahaze]

That's total nonsense. Life is a 'realistic dream'? Life is what we base our usage of the word 'reality' on, of course it's realistic. Big deal. Life is a dream? Last time I checked 'dream' was used to note the difference to 'reality'. So there's a second reality behind this one? Wow, show me your evidence. Oh wait, you have none, alright.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by psychosteveo2 Also about that meeting in the cafeteria, is that really possible to meet someone without ever seeing them before in your life? Like is is possible that you two shared like the same dream realm (cafeteria) though you never met? I find that so weird, but cool, because its like me and my brother's experience. Well, actually, myself and Anne were acquainted well enough... we were mutual friends of this one amazing young woman, Violet, who sort of collected friends. She would invite people over to her room, and if they were amusing, then the invitations would continue. She only kept the most interesting people, and so it became great fun for every one who became a regular. Both Anne and myself were regulars in Violet's soirees. I suppose that is why we stopped and chatted during our Dream... we wanted to keep up our reputations for congeniality. Oh, Violet later got married, and both Anne and myself attended Violet's wedding. A bit carried away by the wine and dancing, Anne and myself even shared a kiss. This was long after our mutual dream. Perhaps we should have stayed in touch. it is not everybody one shares a dream with, I would guess...

[Distant Clone]

Thank you Follower, even though I came up with it on my own, but Originally posted by Yatahaze What if my grandma has wheels and is an autobus? That's fine by me, but I'm not going to be riding her. The idea was to get you to think about it, but you simply say "No it's not possible". I think we may have another critic on our hands.

[icuurd12b42]

Originally posted by Yatahaze That's total nonsense. Life is a 'realistic dream'? Life is what we base our usage of the word 'reality' on, of course it's realistic. Big deal. Life is a dream? Last time I checked 'dream' was used to note the difference to 'reality'. So there's a second reality behind this one? Wow, show me your evidence. Oh wait, you have none, alright. Dude, it is clear that you lack the knowledge or the experience to make the claim. If you had, you would know that there is no such thing as certitude. When you get older and wiser and acquire enough information, you’ll see things a little clearer. And perhaps it is you who would have the proof. Then again who would believe you. If you had experienced a truly lucid dream, doubts about what you perceive as being real would be seeded. And you might see the reality around you in a whole new light. What if life was a common dream? What would you do about it? Nothing as nothing could be done. How could we prove it? Have you ever tried to convince a DC that you are dreaming? What was his reaction? Disbelief is what I always get. What proof could you give him (if you have no control)? Look, the sky is pink, it’s supposed to be blue. The DC would only reply: are you crazy? The sky has always been pink! Do dreams exist as a learning tool to teach people they are dreaming (IRL)? Is the reality around you only there to make this dream last longer? We don’t know but a lot of people as starting to get an inkling. When you live in a world where scientists are now pretty sure it’s all made up, what are you left with except for your old reliable constructs?

[Yatahaze]

I never said that I'm the big know-it-all. I'm totally aware of the implications of how the brain works, what matter might be, what philosophical position one might assume in questions of ontology, relation and so on. But that's besides the point. So it IS possible that life 'is a dream', that things are switched; we all know that our knowledge is at best finite, at worst zero. So what. I'm not making assumptions about some metaphysical background, I'm not saying anoything about God, about the nature of things, the reality of my perception. Why would I? Of course everything I think, experience and perceive is based on theories that form a big construct that is far far away from anything that might be objective. What's the problem? I'm a subjective being; if I wouldn't be transforming things into something different to bring them into a system of informaton, I would be objective and not relating to things in a specific way. Who would want to be that? I imagine that being a table is pretty boring. As long as a brain can be manipulated to directly influence the psychical result, I don't see why I would doubt matter in a way that has practical implications rather than only theoretical ones. I can practice philosophy and spirituality all I want, but if taking out certain regions of your brain makes it impossible for you to remember anything new [insert thousands of similar examples], I would be careful of what to say about the material world.

[icuurd12b42]

Originally posted by Yatahaze I never said that I'm the big know-it-all. I'm totally aware of the implications of how the brain works, what matter might be, what philosophical position one might assume in questions of ontology, * ... I would be careful of what to say about the material world. Ah, finally, a complete post that gives me a truer glimpse of your potential. I agree with was you just said. The way you voiced your opinion is the last post is much more learned. The other ones, not so much. You seem to be a realist and are not so much interested in things you might consider paranormal (anymore). From what I can tell, you probably did not always feel that way. You have a “Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt (and burned it)” attitude about you. I could be wrong though.