Precognition questions.

[Dickie]

This may - or may not - be the correct area of the forum to post this is, so bear with me lads (and lasses). Here goes: Several times now, I think I have experienced some sort of premonition. I say think, because I'm not sure if that's what happened. Basically, the following two things have happened: 1) I'd have a dream sequence that made no sense (like most dreams) but at a later date I would find myself in that situation, and everything would all make sense. 2) I'd have a dream sequence but then forget about it. Something would happen, which would cause me to remember the dream sequence - and realise it was the same as what had just happened, these usually occur as just a 'snapshot' dream sequence. By a 'snapshot', I mean a short couple of seconds of dream, or a still image, usually very detailed and vivid. It's very similar to deja-vu but dreams are involved, ususally a long time beforehand, although the time between the dream and the event seems to be getting shorter. I'm just curious if this is similar to anything other people have experienced at all?

[Chaos Psyche]

As far as number one is concerned, for me it rarely is literal. 99% of the time the dream will have to be "interpreted" and if I fail at interpreting it, when whatever happens that pertains to the dream, I figure it out then. Number 2 is good ole "deja-vu". yeah,happens to me all the time.

[Dickie]

Aye, sometimes with the first one it makes no sense during the dream, for example: I dreamt I was standing in my garage in an orange suit holding two metal cylinders. This made no sense at all, until a few months later when I was working on my car with my father and picked up two pieces of the engine to pass them over, and I was wearing orange overalls, I then found myself in the exact same position as in the dream for a few seconds, which was a tad shocking. Although the other night I dreamt about being a passenger in my car, and the roof was down but it was raining and we were deciding whether or not to put the roof up. In the end we decided not to because the soft top wouldn't fit over the back of the car as there was some sort of cross piece behind the seats. This didn't make any sense either, as there is nothing behind the seats to block the soft-top, and it's my car (i.e I drive it). Two days later, we went to a car show (which took me by surprise, as I thought it was in 2 weeks time!) in my car. I ended up not driving for a change, and whilst we were there we bought a roll bar (not something we planned), but on the way home it began to rain, we found the roof wouldn't go up as we'd tucked the roll bar behind the seats (no place to fix it yet) and it was in the way. As for the other type, yes it's exactly like deja-vu except that I dream about it beforehand. It's not a sequence as such, just a moment when the dream matches reality, a split second where everything is similar, but the events leading up to that moment are usually different. Or is that what deja-vu is?

[icuurd12b42]

I know the feeling. You are sitting at a restaurant, enjoying yourself then wooosh - déjà vu . What gets me is the woosh feeling right before the déjà vu starts. Two of my siblings and I are cursed with it. For a few seconds, you know what’s going to happen. The best one I had was that, for a good ten seconds, I could tell who would talk and what they would say, right up to the moment the waitress would serve the wine. The funny thing is that my eldest sister had the same déjà vu at the same time. We both said, oh, déjà vu at the same time. Funny. The worst one was the death of my father. The déjà vu feeling (the woosh) lasted a few days though the “knowing what‘s going to happen” part only occurred a few times each day. What I mean to say is that I had many déjà vus in a few days but only one big constant wooosh. A very numbing experience. Freaky. The prolonged experience allowed me to remember I had dreamt the event as a kid. Since then I had a few dream sequences that have repeated in real life like you mentioned. There is no wooosh feeling with it though. Just a “hey, I dreamt that!” realisation. I wonder If I’ll experience the woosh feeling again. With the woosh feeling, I would know that the upcoming scene would be a déjà vu and prepare myself to be amased. Now, I only get the realisation midway or at the end of it. Too late to consciously be able to predict and enjoy the prediction. My guess is déjà vus are forgotten precog dreams.

[Dickie]

I've had the conversation thing before, like you say you know what people are going to say before they do. Also, I've been sitting there before, when I suddenly start thinking about something and then someone starts talking about it, and more often than not voicing what I was thinking. There is one other thing (this might get a bit off-topic or start to be in the wrong palce on the forum...), but please bear with me! Several times, when I've been listening to my ipod (which I keep on 'shuffle' cos I don't like hearing the same tracks in the same order over and over again) when towards the end of the song (last 30 seconds or so), I start to hear another one in my head, which then turns out to be the next track. It is set to 'shuffle' so they are all in a random order, and I have at the last count over 2,000 songs, and most of my playlists are 50+ tracks, so surely the chances of me just guessing are pretty small? Now, here is where I'm going with this: all the times these things have happened, have been times when I've been awake but 'switched off' (not paying attention, day dreaming, relaxed etc). They never happen if I try to force it (I've tried to predict the next song on the ipod and can't if I try). The usual times tend to be: -In the car (mostly when I was younger and a passenger, I'd sortof switch off and quietly day dream whilst the car was travelling, then people in the car would start a conversation but I'd know what it was about before they'd said anything) -At work (very menial, repetitive work, once I get into a rhythm I tend to 'switch off' and let my mind wander, which is when I first noticed the ipod thing and a couple of times knew things were going to happen before they did) -In bed of a morning (I used to use my ipod as an alarm clock with some speakers, and several times knew what was next) Basically, they are all times when my mind is relaxed, not focussed on anything 'here and now'. I'm sure you know the feeling! Anyone else got any ideas or experiences? I'm thinking if lots of people have similar experiences then maybe theres a pattern to follow or induce them more often?

[Chaos Psyche]

Whats knocks me off of my feet, is you will be talking to someone, and you know EXACTLY what they are gonna say, before they even say it. It's almost like you picked up on them thinking what they were gonna say. Telepathy? and not even knowing it.

[Xei]

I've gotten that a few times. Also, a few years ago, I went through this phase where every so often, I would suddenly think of the word somebody was about to say, before they said it. To make sure my mind wasn't playing tricks on me, I once said the word aloud very quietly as soon as it hit me; and then someone said it. This could either be coincedence/subconcious deduction from the conversation, or perhaps telepathy is possible. I suppose it could be scientifically possible to have some kind of transmitter/reciever of waves in the brain that we're yet to discover... that seems a bit unlikely, though.

[Never]

Basically, they are all times when my mind is relaxed, not focussed on anything 'here and now'. I'm sure you know the feeling! Anyone else got any ideas or experiences? I'm thinking if lots of people have similar experiences then maybe theres a pattern to follow or induce them more often?[/b] Personally, I think a lot of it has to do with how much you really believe you are capable of; this is why these things usually occur when relaxed, half drunk, half asleep, asleep, and any other altered state of mind. I find the more abstractly I think...the more odd things seem to happen. My first precognitive dreams were simply a result of asking for them; I was about 14 at the time and believed in this stuff very much. To this day, I have one about every two weeks or so without even trying, though more often than not they are about seemingly pointless events, or small points of time and images of new places. At times they have been very powerful though, to the point that I was forever affected by them. While awake, weird things also happen, but they are more of an uncovering of unconscious memories, thoughts, and dreams from that moment, to many years ago. About a month ago the strangest thing happened: I was staring at a wall, thinking about the oddest things (not so odd to myself), and was only just starting to get the feeling that I was falling asleep. During this time, I suddenly remembered a dream from what felt like a week before, that had not been remembered upon waking...this led to more recollection; to images and impressions that had never risen to my conscious mind before, even to dream recall that felt like childhood dreams not remembered. The point is, I believe the more relaxed and focused (or unfocused) you become, the more likely you are to tap into the unconscious or otherwise, and if you believe this is an easy thing to do, you will have that much more chance at succeeding. It is hard to explain the power of belief in the mind. When you say to yourself at night "I WILL remember my dreams upon awakening" you know it will happen. It is the same with anything else. If I am having trouble sleeping, I simply tell myself "I WILL fall asleep in 25 seconds". If I believe I can do this, I can. It may not work on the first try, but I often fall alseep within a minute. It is the same for precognitive dreams, problem solving, and otherwise...though it becomes much more complex with certain endeavors as they require training and much detail. Asking yourself for certain abilities in waking life is similar; when I was a teen I experimented with just about every paranormal mind phenomenon there is, some with no results, some with minimal but believable results, such as seeing things from far away, which again involves meditation, and thus, an altered state of consciousness. In conclusion, I think the level at which you believe you can actually do certain things dictates much of the success you have. Obviously, only by small successes and recognition of those can we "lead" ourselves to more profound experiences.