So I'm trying to Astral Project.

[Kaniaz]

I got bored of sticking to Lucid Dreaming, so I've decided to have a go at more branches of Dreaming and stuff. I settled on Astral Projection/OOBE's/whatever you like to call them. The meditation exercises in this 127-page treatise I had on Astral Projection are absolutely great for relaxing.

[Blissful]

hey, I'm on the same boat. I've tried and can get to the stage of vibration and once I felt my spirit trying to wiggle out but no success. It's actually very exhausting. I have been so busy with outside commitments that I haven't been able to try it again (one has to make sure you have enough time or else you will be too tired to do it). Please, share any tips and tricks along the way of your discovery. I promise to do the same. Blissful

[Cedri]

Is that acculy possible?! How freeking cool is that?

[Lucius]

A tired body is not truely a problem, a tired mind is. A tired body might actually help. Try projecting from meditation, it works much better then when laying down. But that only works if you have suficient meditation skills, but I wouldnt recommend astral projection if you cannot yet succeed, at, lets say, WILD.

[YULAW]

Originally posted by Lucius A tired body is not truely a problem, a tired mind is. A tired body might actually help. Try projecting from meditation, it works much better then when laying down. But that only works if you have suficient meditation skills, but I wouldnt recommend astral projection if you cannot yet succeed, at, lets say, WILD. Lucius is right this is True.. Take it slow guys and like Lucius said a tired mind would utimately decrease your Results, and having a tired body would more than likely help, since Most OBE's result from a form of Sleep Paralysis.

[Blissful]

Originally posted by ShadowNightWing+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ShadowNightWing)</div> <!--QuoteBegin-Lucius A tired body is not truely a problem, a tired mind is. A tired body might actually help. Try projecting from meditation, it works much better then when laying down. But that only works if you have suficient meditation skills, but I wouldnt recommend astral projection if you cannot yet succeed, at, lets say, WILD. Lucius is right this is True.. Take it slow guys and like Lucius said a tired mind would utimately decrease your Results, and having a tired body would more than likely help, since Most OBE's result from a form of Sleep Paralysis.[/b] Yes, you both are right.. I really meant to say tired mind... a tired body is easy to relax, a tired mind will zonk right out. I still haven't been successful but then again, haven't really tried either. I'm still concerned with all the warnings I've been reading about. One you go out you will never come back the same... Blissful

[Kaniaz]

My super-uper-cool-manual on Astral Projection helps me so much. Covers everything, thank god.

[Jinzo]

Astral projection makes it easier to attain lucid dreaming anyway. All you have to do is will a dream scenario and the subconcious does the rest. I tried to astral project by opening my 3rd eye 1st and I realize that was a big mistake. For about 2 days I had inner sight and intuition and realized all my negative intentions. Of course I was rather gloomy and ashamed for the 2 days. You should'nt try open your 3rd eye to Astral project unless you can handle it. However learned AP isn't that hard. The hard factor is that the closer you are to a teen in age the more powerful your magnetic feild. To AP you must 1. Relax your body completely avoid moving a muscle - for like 40 mins 2. Then think of absolutly nothing. Listen to the ringing in your head w/o thinking or focusing on it, listen to from the back of not thinking anything 3 Now you separate. You can either let occur naturally in which case you feel like you're submerged like at the bottom of a pool. Or you might force it which case you must push with your mind as well as move with the astral body can feel until separation or you could focus on teleporting your consciousness to a certian nearby location like another room or the roof and try to conscious there w/o your body but you shouldn't be too close to your physical bodies magnetic feild when you're astral. AP is also easiest if you stay up a little late then go to sleep and have someone wake you like an hour later.

[Garibaldi Biscuit]

I've been trying this as of late as well, it's interesting to hear about other peoples methods and what works/almost works for them. My main method of trying to AP is something I read on a site a while ago, it seems to be a similar way to how people attempt Telekenesis - forcing your mind abruptly from one topic to another, creating a 'snap'. Basically I just lie there with my eyes closed and vividly imagine a scene; I visualise everything from how the grass would feel on my feet, the sounds in the air, the smells, how the sun feels against my skin, and try to keep myself in this place for about ten minutes. It can be pretty exhausting as maintaining that level of 'realism' takes a lot out of me, and stopping my mind from wandering can be difficult. Anyway, after about ten minutes of total immersion in this place, I then abruptly focus on my intent to be in another, specific place, say.....my friend's house or somewhere relativly nearby. There's a sudden and abrupt tension, and I feel as though all the energy in my body is slowly drawing upwards; starting at my feet, moving up through my legs, chest, until it reaches my head and wants to keep going. First time I did this I wasn't expecting anything to happen, but when the energy reached my chest I bailed - I was terrified. What exactly was this leaving my body? What would be left after it was gone? I've never quite gotten over that fear, as this is a very intense sensation and not something which I can easily relax into. Does this feeling of energy moving up through the body sound familiar to anyone? Also I'm on medication atm so I suspect that might be hampering my attempts, although happily I am coming off that soon so it should no longer be a consideration.

[Habiib]

Originally posted by Garibaldi Biscuit I've been trying this as of late as well, it's interesting to hear about other peoples methods and what works/almost works for them. My main method of trying to AP is something I read on a site a while ago, it seems to be a similar way to how people attempt Telekenesis - forcing your mind abruptly from one topic to another, creating a 'snap'. Basically I just lie there with my eyes closed and vividly imagine a scene; I visualise everything from how the grass would feel on my feet, the sounds in the air, the smells, how the sun feels against my skin, and try to keep myself in this place for about ten minutes. It can be pretty exhausting as maintaining that level of 'realism' takes a lot out of me, and stopping my mind from wandering can be difficult. Anyway, after about ten minutes of total immersion in this place, I then abruptly focus on my intent to be in another, specific place, say.....my friend's house or somewhere relativly nearby. There's a sudden and abrupt tension, and I feel as though all the energy in my body is slowly drawing upwards; starting at my feet, moving up through my legs, chest, until it reaches my head and wants to keep going. First time I did this I wasn't expecting anything to happen, but when the energy reached my chest I bailed - I was terrified. What exactly was this leaving my body? What would be left after it was gone? I've never quite gotten over that fear, as this is a very intense sensation and not something which I can easily relax into. Does this feeling of energy moving up through the body sound familiar to anyone? Also I'm on medication atm so I suspect that might be hampering my attempts, although happily I am coming off that soon so it should no longer be a consideration. I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. I've done the samething. Sad part was that I knew how close I was to pullin g it off. But its a feeling that I've never felt before, so I bailed real quick. I feel the sensation more in my spine, than in my chest though. I'm afraid that If I do pull it off, that I'll get stuck or I'll start to see spirits (Demons,Ghost, etc)

[Kaniaz]

ROPE Technique (bad formatting yes, good content yes): This is a complete projection method in itself, if you have good powers of concentration. I suggest beginners concentrate solely on this method until they have more experience. This projection method will give you a normal Astral projection. The duration of this projection, in real time, will depend on the level of chakra development and energy flow you have attained. 1. Do the relaxation exercise thoroughly, until you are completely settled. This should only take a few minutes, don’t overdo it. 2. Reach out with your imaginary HANDS and pull yourself, hand over hand, up the strong, invisible, imaginary ROPE hanging above you. Try and imagine the feel of a strong, thick, coarse rope in your HANDS. Don’t try and visualize this ROPE! I want you to imagine you are reaching out and climbing this ROPE in the pitch dark, so you can’t see it at all, you just know where it is and can imagine the feel of it. Visualization wastes valuable mental energy that can be better put to use exerting direct pressure on your astral body. You will feel a slight dizzy sensation inside you as you do this, specifically in your upper torso. This is caused by exerting dynamic pressure on the astral body. Very Important Note: a) This dizzy feeling and any feelings of pressure or vertigo, etc, caused by your mental action of pulling on the ROPE MUST be carefully noted by you. Learn the EXACT mental action you are doing to cause this vertigo. You will have to train your mental climbing action to cause this feeling. So, the first few times you try this ROPE method, concentrate on finding the right mental action to do this. Once you learn what it is you are doing to cause this, and can recreate it at will, you are really starting to get somewhere. B) IGNORE ALL SENSATION YOU FEEL DURING PROJECTION or it will distract you, break your concentration, and ruin your chances for projection. Concentrate on the single act of climbing your ROPE to the TOTAL exclusion of everything else. Put everything you have into this one action, but don’t tense up, it must be all mental.

[Berserk Exodus]

I just tried it this morning and... It's actually real?!?! I got deep into the "vibration stage" by concentrating on that ringing, and I rolled over, but I didn't detach from my head, my body went sideways. Except... it's really hard to move your head. Feels like a ton.

[Kaniaz]

Yes, it is real. Except... it's really hard to move your head. Feels like a ton.[/b] You might wanna try stimulating your crown Chakra.

[Berserk Exodus]

Chakras? Enlighten me. Anyways, I like the vibration feeling a lot, it feels like the whole world is on one of those beds that you put a quarter in and they go "buzzzzzzzz"...

[Kaniaz]

Then god said, \"Let there be .pdf documents containing everything about Chakras, techniques on how to do Astral Projection, and other stuf- No. Wait. I didn't say that right. QUICK! ERASE THAT FROM THE BIBLE!

[Berserk Exodus]

I read the treatise on OOBEs, it was great... I was so close this morning, it was the first time I had tried it; I probably could have done it if I had used the ROPE method. All I did to get the violent vibration was just to focus on that noise... Man, that was fuckin' cool. I need to do that more often. And, what I noticed even more was that, when I failed, after that I had THREE dreams in ten minutes!

[Jinzo]

I've been there. The thing is the 3rd eye and crown chakra utilize the most etheric energy. This causes your astral head to be magnetized the most to your bodies magnetic feild. Thats why its hardest to do when you're young. I decided to make myself frustrated and try to manifest it in to will. You must will it as hard as possible. Also try moving with your Astral body, at this point, rather than physical. When you sleep your magetic feild expands to let your Astral body leave. In AP the mind is awake but the body is sleep, so the head is still magnetized. Try to expand the chakras in your head as well before projection. This loosens the chakras tight hold.

[Berserk Exodus]

I tried again this morning, but it was too loud and it didn't work. Couldn't concentrate. I've been working on my concentration by meditating. Never meditated before, so this is all very new to me. I also have been doing the chakra exercises. If I actually achieve astral projection I might have doubts about no greater order of things existence... ...

[intent]

obe's are real. so are lucid dreams. lucid dream seems harder than obe's because you are trying to become lucid while you are in a regular dream. problem is in a regular dream you believe it to be real. in an obe, you just lay down "mind awake, body asleep" and wait for the vortex sensation or the lifting out of your body sensation. So it is a direct shift-awareness from waking mind to out of body experience. Thing that works best for me is go to sleep, wake up like 6-7 hours later in the early morning, stay awake for 1 hour, reading a book or whatever, then lie down and do your thing. btw, obe's often turn into a lucid dream anyways, so in reality, unless your actually learned how to do remote viewing or flying in the real world, mostly likely you are just having the feeling of leaving your body and perceiving a dream world...

[Ginko]

BEWARE of OBEs

[Life]

Originally posted by Shawndow BEWARE of * OBEs what are the dangers and risks?

[Berserk Exodus]

Yes, "enlighten" me.

[intent]

enlighten me too on the "beware" statement. i've done hundreds of obe's, vast array of different experiences ranging from floating above my body into the ceiling, floating out the front door, floating out into outer space, flying to other planets, and seeing other humanoid-like beings... the list goes on and on... is your "beware of obe's" based on your experiences or just hear-say?...

[timspainhour]

Originally posted by intent Thing that works best for me is go to sleep, wake up like 6-7 hours later in the early morning, stay awake for 1 hour, reading a book or whatever, then lie down and do your thing. * btw, obe's often turn into a lucid dream anyways, so in reality, unless your actually learned how to do remote viewing or flying in the real world, mostly likely you are just having the feeling of leaving your body and perceiving a dream world... that is what works best for me too. I wake up for a while and then go back to bed, makes it a lot easier. as far as the OBEs turning into LD, that just happened to me this morning

[Trent F.]

I have found that if I have a candle lit and I concentrate on the flame and try to avoid falling asleep because eventually I should get up and blow out the canlde that it can bring on an OBe. I imagine that I am getting up to blow it out after a long period of time of relaxing and trying not to fall asleep. and vibrations come on and I slip out. Also imaging that I am taking a bit of time to myself and to disconnect from responsibilities and anxious feelings help.