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      Can an Atheist Open Their Third Eye?

      I'm an atheist but I'm very interested in opening my third eye (and my root as well as to not create an imbalance). Will my lack of faith prevent my chakras from opening? I'm accepting of many different ideas, I just don't believe in a Christian god and I'm worried that this might prevent my chakras from opening because alot of what I read on the subject has to do with god...
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      if i could prove to you that the christian God was real would you still want to doubt even with evidence ?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ishi View Post
      I'm an atheist but I'm very interested in opening my third eye (and my root as well as to not create an imbalance). Will my lack of faith prevent my chakras from opening? I'm accepting of many different ideas, I just don't believe in a Christian god and I'm worried that this might prevent my chakras from opening because alot of what I read on the subject has to do with god...
      If you're an atheïst, then why do you care about such things?
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      Just because someone's an atheist, doesn't mean that they are unable to have an open mind.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SirIssac View Post
      if i could prove to you that the christian God was real would you still want to doubt even with evidence ?
      I'm sorry, but I find the evidence for there being no god much more convincing. But I'm not trying to get into that here.

      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      If you're an atheïst, then why do you care about such things?
      You're assuming too much about what being an atheist means. All it means is that I lack the belief in a god. Like I said, I'm open to new ideas. I would just like to know if the practice requires belief in some sort of deity.


      Thanks for answering my question no-name Perhaps I can skew the method just a bit to fit me personally.
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      I don't think you are an atheist, just because you don't believe in God in a Christian sense, doesen't make you an atheist.

      To answer your question. Well.. your chakras are there, it doesen't matter what you believe in or don't.

      Why do you wan't to open your third eye? It doesen't matter if one chakra is open when the rest is forgotten, keep that in mind.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Specialis Sapientia View Post
      I don't think you are an atheist, just because you don't believe in God in a Christian sense, doesen't make you an atheist.

      To answer your question. Well.. your chakras are there, it doesen't matter what you believe in or don't.

      Why do you wan't to open your third eye? It doesen't matter if one chakra is open when the rest is forgotten, keep that in mind.
      Well put, fully agree with this. Also, as he mentioned, the chakras are there regardless of your beliefs
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      Quote Originally Posted by BigFan View Post
      Well put, fully agree with this. Also, as he mentioned, the chakras are there regardless of your beliefs
      That's a pretty arrogant thing to say. That's like saying "my God is real, regardless of your beliefs".
      Where's the evidence?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      That's a pretty arrogant thing to say. That's like saying "my God is real, regardless of your beliefs".
      Where's the evidence?
      huh? Where did I say that? I think you are misinterpereting what I am saying. I was just repeating what Specialis Sapientia said which is that I believe that chakras are real and that's just my opinion. The OP has CLEARLY indicated that she is interested and BELIEVES that Chakras are real, so, no where was I arrogant in my response since she already believes in chakras. Also, my response was specifically for the OP, since, while chakras are related to religion and it seems that most religions have similar ideas behind them(just read that today), anyone can open them regardless if you follow a religion or not.
      As for the evidence, I can't give you any evidence about chakras. As I said above its my own opinion which I developed after thinking about the subject matter and did some reading. I plan to open all the different chakras taking my time doing so to prevent any negatives effects starting from the root all the way to the crown. I am fairly new to this chakra stuff(read about it 2-3 years ago and only recently became interested in the stuff again). I am hoping to see some effect after opening each one to compare before and after and use that as my evidence if it does work and I think it will. Personally, I think you are just trolling because you aren't contributing to this thread at all. The rules state that we aren't supposed to argue about this kind of stuff since this section of the forum is specifically for this kind of stuff and we are supposed to be civilized.
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      Calling me arrogant automatically broke that rule.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ishi View Post
      I'm an atheist but I'm very interested in opening my third eye (and my root as well as to not create an imbalance). Will my lack of faith prevent my chakras from opening? I'm accepting of many different ideas, I just don't believe in a Christian god and I'm worried that this might prevent my chakras from opening because alot of what I read on the subject has to do with god...
      I believe you are a Spiritual-Atheist, Meaning you believe in other worldly forces that cannot be explained by science but not in one god as people seem to think is the start and end of faith.

      I am also a Spiritual-Atheist so i know what you mean

      Also stay on topic guys

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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      If you're an atheïst, then why do you care about such things?
      From what I've read about chakras it is not clear it require a god to exist.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BigFan View Post
      huh? Where did I say that? I think you are misinterpereting what I am saying. I was just repeating what Specialis Sapientia said which is that I believe that chakras are real and that's just my opinion. The OP has CLEARLY indicated that she is interested and BELIEVES that Chakras are real, so, no where was I arrogant in my response since she already believes in chakras. Also, my response was specifically for the OP, since, while chakras are related to religion and it seems that most religions have similar ideas behind them(just read that today), anyone can open them regardless if you follow a religion or not.
      As for the evidence, I can't give you any evidence about chakras. As I said above its my own opinion which I developed after thinking about the subject matter and did some reading. I plan to open all the different chakras taking my time doing so to prevent any negatives effects starting from the root all the way to the crown. I am fairly new to this chakra stuff(read about it 2-3 years ago and only recently became interested in the stuff again). I am hoping to see some effect after opening each one to compare before and after and use that as my evidence if it does work and I think it will. Personally, I think you are just trolling because you aren't contributing to this thread at all. The rules state that we aren't supposed to argue about this kind of stuff since this section of the forum is specifically for this kind of stuff and we are supposed to be civilized.
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      Calling me arrogant automatically broke that rule.
      I called that statement arrogant. And that is my opinion, AND I have freedom of speech. Fail, please try again.
      Oh, by the way; I don't really believe in any God either - but I keep an open mind at all times. When I said "why do you care about such things" I was referring to the OP's lack of faith in God.
      I think that religion is not necessary for stuff like chakra's.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      I called that statement arrogant. And that is my opinion, AND I have freedom of speech. Fail, please try again.
      Oh, by the way; I don't really believe in any God either - but I keep an open mind at all times. When I said "why do you care about such things" I was referring to the OP's lack of faith in God.
      I think that religion is not necessary for stuff like chakra's.
      Fine, don't really plan on getting into a fight, its your own opinion I was being arrogant, in my opinion, I wasn't close.
      @Phantasos If I remember correctly, the crown chakra(top one) is supposed to connect you to God or so, so, I would think that's the only one you'll have trouble opening.
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      Ishi i would say your agnostic means you dont know what to beleive.

      Either way you look at it, atheism is a religion in its own right. They "believe" in evolution they "believe" in the method of science.
      However science is a reductionist form of looking at things, by breaking them down.

      Anybody who's looked into the quantum side of science will know its very bizzare and in some sense unreal, at that level how particles can be waves and particles and in may different places at once, sounds magical to me.
      I beleive spirituality is studying "the whole picture" as opose to science reductionist forms.

      As for evidence of the chakra system whats peoples views on it relating to the human endocrine system ?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jozeh View Post
      Ishi i would say your agnostic means you dont know what to beleive.

      Either way you look at it, atheism is a religion in its own right. They "believe" in evolution they "believe" in the method of science.
      However science is a reductionist form of looking at things, by breaking them down.

      Anybody who's looked into the quantum side of science will know its very bizzare and in some sense unreal, at that level how particles can be waves and particles and in may different places at once, sounds magical to me.
      I beleive spirituality is studying "the whole picture" as opose to science reductionist forms.

      As for evidence of the chakra system whats peoples views on it relating to the human endocrine system ?
      I've studied quantum chem and I know what you mean. It is a rather bizzare subject and the derivations are pretty long and tedious with all the math in it. I think you mean the duality idea, how light can act as a particle and wave, lol. Anyways, as for your question, it seems that most chakras ignoring the first and third ones(?) are related to the endocrine system, but, that's all I know on the subject matter
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      See any similarities ?



      The first chakra in relation to the endocrine system are testicels and ovaries.
      The third is the pancreas.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jozeh View Post
      Ishi i would say your agnostic means you dont know what to beleive.

      Either way you look at it, atheism is a religion in its own right. They "believe" in evolution they "believe" in the method of science.
      However science is a reductionist form of looking at things, by breaking them down.
      False. Atheism is, as the name implies - the lack of faith in God. Being an atheist means that, and that alone.
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      As someone (I believe it was Bugs Bunny) once said,

      "Everybody believes in something. Even if it's nothing".

      Sorry ishi. Apparently the topic has gone OT and your question remains in limbo. I can't assist because I know nothing about the 3rd eye.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      False. Atheism is, as the name implies - the lack of faith in God. Being an atheist means that, and that alone.
      exactly so if they dont believe that god created it they "believe" it was created by the means of science, so it is in sense having faith in the unknown, because the study of science isnt complete.

      and just to clear up im not talking about any god in the religions, just easier to put across what i mean with the word god.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jozeh View Post
      exactly so if they dont believe that god created it they "believe" it was created by the means of science, so it is in sense having faith in the unknown, because the study of science isnt complete.

      and just to clear up im not talking about any god in the religions, just easier to put across what i mean with the word god.
      "Created by the means of science"?? Thanks for the laugh.
      Actually, science is a method of finding out what that means really was. And yes, I have the balls to admit that I don't know it all. Thanks.
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      Stay on-topic guys. This is not a discussion about God in any other regard than whether the belief (or lack of) affects chakras.

      There's an entire forum for religion/spirituality if that's what you want to discuss. As this thread is in BD this is obviously about the chakras and not the OP's personal decisions, nor semantics.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox View Post
      "Created by the means of science"?? Thanks for the laugh.
      Actually, science is a method of finding out what that means really was. And yes, I have the balls to admit that I don't know it all. Thanks.

      well by that i meant the evolution of the atom and even evolution of life here on earth, thats what science tells them to beleive.

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      In some worldviews, chakras exist in a universe free of deities. It is a common thing for spiritual topics to become intermeshed, especially those of eastern religions and Christianity. Just because you keep reading on the internet about chakras and god on the same page doesn't mean that, if chakras exist, are somehow related to or dependant on the existence of god (if either of the two exist regardless).

      Being an atheist can mean nothing and everything. Siddhartha Gautama was an atheist, and alledgely had his third eye open. Then again, the yogis of India, which had dozens of deities in their religion, also alledgely had their third eyes open. Either way, whichever you choose to believe. It only matters if you let it.

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      Timothy Paradox, you are classic!

      Knock yourself out opening the third eye chakra, if you're willingly, open 'em all (if you know how... that is... you do know which method to do, right?)

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