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      Dreams of the Future: A Theory by Joe

      Not everyone has experiance this, most have hover to some degree...

      The specific aspect of this i am going to concentrate on is that déjà vu feeling you get once the Reality happens.

      These dreams are of the future, can predict any time. For example, i had a dream about a conversation in a black room when I lived in the states for a year... I moved back to england, went to a new school... and went to a gig with some mates. Some of the people it was the first time I met them. I stayed in my friends house that night in a room with one of the people i had met that night. The exact conersation came to pass.. and it was only when it happened I remembered it.

      This has happened alot to me, sometimes its the next day.. sometimes I had the dreams years ago, but they are shockingly accurate, and most of them are in colour, i just thought the dark one was a good example seeing as it was some one i didn't know, and was just audible.

      My theory for this is that when your asleep, and your brain is effectivly "defragmenting" itself and refiling, it is also working out what the most probable next step is. if you have a 9-5 its highly probable that your going to wake up and go to work on a week day unless something happens... but your brain can do alot more than that. It can see with the things you have done, the company you keep, the things you believe, and the way you behave, if things keep going the same way.. then the most probable out come will manifest itself with your dream.

      If this is true why doesn't eeryone experiance them?

      Well part b of my theory states that the better you are at Math, the more likely your brain will be able to work out the probability.
      Sounds a bit silly but;

      I hae always had a natrual flare for math, i used to be able to look at a simulatanious equation just see the answer. 8/10 i would be right. Other people who i have talked to that have had these precognative dreams have also had a natural flare for math.
      Also.. people who are not as good at math, have lesser experiances... or at least, the time span of the probability is shorter. There dreams of the future happen a few days to a week prior.
      And the ones who have no flare for math at all.. the ones that struggle adding a 1/2 to a 1/4.. well they think its all bullshit because they have never experianced it.

      Obviously I am sure there are people who Veer from this Theory... But if anyones got anything to add i would like to hear there thoughts and feelings

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      ok so to my understanding the theory basicaly says mathmatical ability determins or has a factor in how oftern you experiance dejavu or prophetic dreams?
      personaly im not great at math and dont have dejavu oftern which would fit in with your theory....
      however when i was younger around 10 or 11 i used to get lots of dejavu but wouldent have known or understood as much in the subject of maths.
      think of a circle with a fine split in it! at one end theres insanity you go around the circle to sanity and on the other end of the circle close to insanity but not insanity is unsanity, beyond sanity!

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      In Response To Acidcat

      When you were younger your brain was probably alot more agile. Things like Drugs were probably not in your diet.... and i think at around the age of 10/11 you would have at least started on probability in school.. unless u went to a really shit school.

      When did you stop experiancing those Deja Vu's?

      When did you start taking Drugs?

      When did you start taking drugs n exess?

      At the time you stopped experiancing Deja Vu, how much math were you doing in comparisson to when you were 10/11?

      How much are you using Math now?


      It might not actually be totally to do with math... but i need more responses to work out that.. it could just be to do with how logical your brain is.. and math being a very logical subject could be a typical trigger.

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      the dejavu were around 2 a month between the ages of 10 or 11 to 13 which is a good 2 years before i even started smoking so i think we can rule out my useage having any effect however puberty may of had a role in stoping the dejavu's

      hmm as for how much math i was doing at 10 compared to 13 i think at 13 less time but more advanced problems but alot more time dedicated to other subjects eg history german geography art etc..

      lol as for how much math do i use now very very little i dont even realy bother adding up my change when i go shoping..
      think of a circle with a fine split in it! at one end theres insanity you go around the circle to sanity and on the other end of the circle close to insanity but not insanity is unsanity, beyond sanity!

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      So how can your theory of logic and mathematics explain your prediction of a conversation you would have with someone in another country that you have never met before? I'm not refuting your theory... just wondering how you tie it together.

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      Well there is the certain X factor.. it could be to do with the fact that we are actually all connected in some way.

      Like i said the example i gave i had never met the person and predicted the whole conversation...

      maybe.. without the conectivity theory... its jsut down to numbers. I mean we use 5% of our brains.. maybe when we are asleep we can use more of that, and the more mathamatically inclined you are, the easyer it finds to use the parts of the brain that can predict the future.. although this still seems to need some kind of conectivity.

      But what other explination is there for these dreams of the future?

      Math is not bound by names and faces. Math is infinite. Maybe through math we can take a glance into the bluish blackness that is infinite.
      I hate all those people who are Anti-Everything. I'm not forcing them to do it.. why the hell do they insist on preeching constantly to me?

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      There is a very nice free onlne book : "sleep, dreams and spiritual reflections" which talks about similar subject under this thread.

      It can be downloaded from http://www.awgp.org/english/books/sleep_dreams.pdf
      Author - Pt. Shriram Sharma Acharya

      Here is the preface and Table of content for the book:

      PREFACE
      Dreams have always been the focus of curiosity, interest, and quest of the human mind. These have led to varieties of false convictions and mystic notions on the one hand, and have accelerated research in Psychology, Neurology and Parapsychology on the other. The reality, origin, reflections and implications of dreams are discussed in great detail in this book, which is compiled from the translation of the Chapters 4 and 5 of the volume 18 of “Pt. Shriram Sharma Acharya Vangmaya” series.A detailed description of the history and trends in the oriental and occidental philosophy and science of dreams is
      presented here. The myths and facts about acquisition of extra sensory knowledge, precognition, and psychological depths of the unconscious mind and the unknown subtle world of the inner self through dreams are elucidated here. Thorough reviews of Freud’s, Jung’s and contemporary psychological theories vis-à-vis the relevant aspects of the ancient science of spirituality are discussed under broad perspectives.
      The current status and future scope of research on dreams is discussed with substantial references. Special attention is focused on dream based early detection, diagnosis and therapies in the context of reported scientific experiments.
      The readers will also get to know how the decipheration of dreams could help resolving the complexities of
      psychosomatic disorders and elevating one’s psychology. Sleep is an integral part of life. The variegated experiences of dreams also become possible in this phase. In normal case, for most of us sleep is almost an automatic, mechanical, or routine process. We do realize its importance in
      relaxing and recharging of the body and the mind but hardly pay any attention to its significant role in harmonizing the brain functions, mental stability and self-development. The present book unfolds the multiple facets of this natural and crucial process of daily-life.
      Interrelationship of sleep, dreams and the limitless potentials of the conscious, subconscious, and the unconscious mind are lucidly focused here in great depth. The causes, pernicious effects, and remedies of insomnia, somnabulism, and other disorders of sleep are discussed with substantial examples. Live examples of mysterious cases of sleepless healthy and normal life for several decades and those of decades long natural sleep are also reported with details on the ancient and modern research findings on such wonders of human brain. The trenchancy of mind and its improved learning capabilities during deep sleep is given special mention here and the results of recent experiments, research trends, and scope of the techniques like hypnopaedia is discussed together with the specific "yog sadhnas"of relevance.
      It is said that the ‘time-capsule’ existing in the inner cores of unconscious mind contains the key to realization of
      supernormal faculties like –– clairvoyance, telepathy, premonition, intuition, audio-visual perceptions beyond the
      constraints of time and space, complete knowledge of the past and future and of the esoteric features of nature.... The false convictions, illusions and the truth of the transcendental realities of dreams and the subliminal world of the unconscious mind are brought out trenchantly by the author with discussions on a wide varieties of live examples of dreams collected from authentic reports and research documents. The list of examples includes the dreams that led to great scientific discoveries or masterpiece creations of literature, art and music in the modern age, as well as the significant dreams of the architects of world history….
      The book presents the invaluable pearls of ancient knowledge in terms of – elucidation of the five levels of dream vis-à-vis the five subtle sheaths of consciousness and the deeper aspects of creative conjugation of mind with the inner impulses of the soul. It is up to us how best we make use of this rare guidance on spiritual evolution and opportunity of epoch-making research bestowed on us….
      It is hoped that the book would be interesting and informative to all those who would read it out of sheer inquisitiveness about dreams. It would, at the same time, motivate and effectively guide the researchers of the hidden domains of human mind.
      – Dr. Pranav Pandya, MD
      CONTENTS
      • What Is A Dream?
      • The Deep Roots of Dreams
      • Myths and Facts about Dreams
      • Dreams –– Linkage Between The Visible and The Invisible World
      • Who Dreams While The Body Sleeps?
      • Scientific Truth of Dreams
      • How Would Freud Explain These Dreams?
      • Tides Of The Inner Impulses Sensed Through The Dreams
      • Mastering The Language Of Dreams
      • Peeping Into The Future Through The Window Of Dreams
      • Divine Help Of Invisible Guides Bestowed In Dreams
      • Dreams May Matter
      • Higher Horizons Of Dreams
      • Realities Reflected In Dreams
      • Dreams and Vision of Transcendental Realities
      • Depth Of Life In The Mirror Of Dreams
      • The Unfolded Secrets Of Dreams
      • Events Folded In Dreams
      • Why Some Dreams Are So Real?
      • Junction Of The Gross and The Subtle Dimensions Of The World
      • Do You Understand The Language Of Your Mind?
      • Secrets Of Life Hidden In Dreams
      • Existence Of Dreams: Some Scientific Views
      • Higher Realms Of Intellect And Dreams
      • Impulse Of The Unconscious Mind
      • Subliminal Nature Of Dreams
      • Facts Behind Dreams
      • Occidental History Of The Philosophy Of Dreams
      • Hidden Messages of Dreams
      • Dreams Aren’t Always Baseless
      • Notice Your Specific Dreams!
      • Where Do Future Events Exist?
      • Travel In The Past And The Future Via Dreams
      • Dreams – Moments Beyond Life and Death
      • Implications of Dreams
      • Watch Tomorrow, Today!
      • Research On Dreams –– The World Of Unconscious Mind
      • The Spectra Of Dreams
      • Interrelationship Of Sleep And Dreams
      • Avoid Extremes In Sleeping Habits
      • Sleep Is Necessary But Not Inevitable
      • He Didn’t Sleep For 71 Years!
      • Sleep Of Childhood Broke In The Old Age!
      • Intellectual Significance And Optimal Use Of Sleep
      • What Drives You Do That In Sleep?
      • Dreams –– Expressions Of Nature
      • Dreams –– The World Beyond Time, Space And Cause
      • Read The Message Of The Inner Self
      • Signs Of The Soul Inscribed In The Dreams
      • The Majestic Path Of Ascent Via Dreams
      • Yog Sadhanas For Dreams And Self-Development
      • Flashes Of The Infinity In Dreams
      • The Unfolded Secrets Of The Soul
      • The Five Levels Of Consciousness, Dreams And Yog Nidra
      • Subliminal Conjugation Of The Mind With The Soul
      .

      Hope you enjoy the book. If you like to read more book by the author, please visit http://www.awgp.org/english/books/books_english.html
      To read more about the author please visit:
      http://www.awgp.org/english/founder/guruji.html

      Please send me an email at [email protected] if you like the book. Also, please feel free to copy/distribute these books as the Author intented them for public use and did not want to have any copyright on his writings..

      When I find time, I will post more links on other books related to mind and dreams..Please give me a feedback if you like the book..

      Please sugesst me other forums where I can post such information.

      Regards,
      Vipul PAtel, PA, USA

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      Originally posted by The Truth
      I mean we use 5% of our brains.. maybe when we are asleep we can use more of that
      Not again...

      That is 100% incorrect. You use all of your brain.
      "This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."



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      Originally posted by bradybaker+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(bradybaker)</div>
      <!--QuoteBegin-The Truth
      I mean we use 5% of our brains.. maybe when we are asleep we can use more of that
      Not again...

      That is 100% incorrect. You use all of your brain.[/b]
      Yep, snopes.com confirms this. You do use 100% of your brain. I wish this stupid misconception would go away, it's sad that such wrong things manage to propgate across the world without question.

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      It's possible that some people are better than others at matching together patterns and using steroetypes of the world to make useful predictions. I wouldn't say necessarily that this is directly linked to math skills, however people who do have these skills may also excel in certain areas of calculations and math because of their sense for patterns and solving. Recognizing patterns is how humans have evolved to the most dominant species. It's out keen ability to remember things like when animals migrate or where food is and how water flows. We use our previous knowledge to make a prediction about a future event.

      Here's a hypothetical example: Indian Joe sees a large group of squirrels digging hole in the ground and then burrying themselves. He has seen this before and remembers what happened last time it happened. A large hailstorm occured, and he remembers that the squirrels were safe from the hail under the ground. He notifies his village and they seek shelter, and survive the hailstorm.

      It's all about pattern recognition and putting prior knowledge together. These abilities have aided us since our beginning.
      Oohhumm

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      It's like this. I still have this deja vu thing happening and when it happens I remember I had a dream about this. It happened before and it's still happening and I'm not so good in math.

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      In regard to the whole 5% thing.. I have always believe that we use all of our brain, just not at once.. with your average human only using 5-10% at a time, and if we could actually use 100% at once we could do alot more.

      I'll check out that thing on snope tho and see what its saying... I hope its not too long winded.

      EDIT: The whole pattern thing.. I agree with that.. but I also think that there is a mathamatical equation to work out this pattern. If you read my example about some guy over see's at a new school who i never met before the night of a concert and I had dreamt it a few years prior.. it wasn't anything i had ever experienced before... unlike the squirrals who do the regularly and there is a clear patern there.. there is no real pattern within the concievable reach of at least my mind. I mean i could say that this is a pattern that has been repeating itself every i dunno.. 4 years or something to whoever is in that place, but then.. how would my brain no that... without the whole conectivity rule or at least there being an equation locked within my subconcious that makes the patters easyer for me to see...

      all theory i guess.. wish more people had responded so i had more numbers to gauge the accuracy of it on tho.
      I hate all those people who are Anti-Everything. I'm not forcing them to do it.. why the hell do they insist on preeching constantly to me?

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      100% of your brain is working 100% of the time.
      "This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time."



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      are you sure that 100% is being used all the time?------anyway----- I think that The Truths theory is a good one... there may be a few things that it can't explain such as going new places, meeting new people. I had a dream about a year ago, where I was at one of my friend's grandma's pool. It was pouring rain out and lightning, but we persisted on swimming. I remember the people that were there, exactly, as well as the words they said. About 3 months ago, my dream.. eh "came true". Everything that happened in my dream happened EXACTLY. anyways my point is.. The Truth's theory may not be able to explain this directly, but there is math equations for almost everything anyone does. Math is basically what runs everything. There is a lot of 'Truth' to The Truth's explaination... in logical terms, not philisophical.... this is all IMHO
      The end justifies the means.

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      can you post some references

      Can any one post refecnes on why they believe 100% of the brain works at 100% of the time?
      I am very curious to find out scientific papers on the subject...

      Vipul..

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