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spaceexplorer
DreamQueen, is an intelligent, polite and decent member of the forum.
She has many friends here, and is always quick to give sensible advice to new members looking for it.
To come here and make attacks against someones personality, judged purely from a handful of posts, where someone is defending themselves against dirty debate tactics , criticism and is frustrated by a pig-headed inability for people to at least question their own beliefs, in light of a more reasonable explanation... is I think, completely justified.
She's a troll, if you can't see it you need to open your eyes. I didn't attack her personality, i attacked her trollness in BD. People need to realize when you are on the internet, you are acting what your true personality is because you are behind a keyboard and able to get away with things you can't offline. I don't cry over words online, but it gets old when you see trolling all the time.
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And you still fail to see the glaringly obvious point about chronically disabled people...
It does not PROVE it is impossible, it proves that despite there being a group of people, who would do anything to communicate with the outside world, that if even those people, with such a compelling motivation, have not learnt to develop skills that would set them free... then that does make you wonder why they havn't does it not?
You were just saying it was impossible yesterday. As for the question...not really, no. Even if they have done it, how would the other person or people know? it could be a normal dream for them, their dream journal could be nowhere, there would be alot of factors and if they really dream shared they would not care if we knew about it, they would only care that they can talk to their loved ones, or anyone. There are alot of things to consider, and this obviously can't be done on a whim.
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When you compare people like this with such huge motivations, to a bunch of new-age westerners, who just-so-happen to have stumbled across shared dreaming, telepathy or any other of these skills... it really does put things into perspective.
I take what i read online with a grain of salt, but i wont rule it out because these people can't do it that we know of
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No, its not conclusive evidence, but it's a hell of a compelling question isn't it?
It's a thinker, but it should not be given up if they were in that situation even if they have yet to see results.
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If you have huge limitations in your life, you tend to try and find solutions to those limitations.
Depends on the person. I have a HUGE learning disability that was caught late, i have not done anything to improve it. Like i said, depends on the person.
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To assume that perfectly coherent, normal human beings, who just so happen to suffer from bodily paralysis do not share the intelligence or insight to discover telepathy or shared dreaming, when a bunch of able bodied people have stumbled upon it and consider themselves "experts"... is condescending and offensive to those disabled people.
Like i said, take it with a grain of salt. it's online where everyone can play Liar and not have to be a Lawyer.
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And if they had discovered it, would they not be shouting it out to the world? so they could help relieve the suffering of others like themselves?
Like i said, there is alot you have to consider. Even if they did it, it would not matter to them for anyone else. This is a selfish world, so aslong as they can do it to their loved ones that is all that would matter to them.
I normally don't like cutting posts up like these, but i just wanted to get the main things. I'll watch the video you linked and get back to you on it.