Would some of you BDers be interested in having your own Task of the Month? Loaf has already suggested one: share a dream with another DVer. Anyone else have some more suggestions? Is this something you guys want to do?
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Would some of you BDers be interested in having your own Task of the Month? Loaf has already suggested one: share a dream with another DVer. Anyone else have some more suggestions? Is this something you guys want to do?
:bigteeth: That sounds like fun actually
Though I'm into some beyond dreaming topics, I don't tend to discuss them here on the forum so my opinion probably doesn't matter much.
But I just wanted to say that for a while I was into tasking. But when Deep Dreaming first began it was all about tasking. Between having the task of the month, Deep Dreaming tasks and personal tasks on my mind all the time, I just got completely burnt out on tasking. It kind of took the freedom out of dreaming. And for me it's the freedom that makes being Lucid so much fun in the first place.
But it's still a cool idea for those interested. If I got involved in it I would rather be doing it in Deep Dreaming though.
Well, there is this carnival, with old dock pilings, and shades of people that used to make up dream teams and make up dream stories, and have energetic battles with gif images and avatars, and shout at them, using horror fiction language, falling into puddles.
I would say a task would be: Find which ones are not involved.
:sleepmeditate2:
Talk to someone elses Dream guide.
I would totally be interested in some BD tasks!
I don't really have tons of ideas for them... I'm sure others could come up with some much better ones.
But two personal (and related) goals I have are
Ask my DG some spiritual questions
Ask a DC some spiritual questions.
And see what kind of answers I get :)
I see a fault, since its BD.. you know... half the stuff may not be possible :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
Yup, definetly interested in a BD task of the month. As a natural LDer with many BD style experiences, I do sometimes find the regular Task Of The Month a little mundane and often easy. Would love to have a Task Of The Month to really push my skills.
You could maybe talk with someone I have been meeting since I was small, Mosh. If you wanted to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man of Shred
That would not involve me. I could just give Aquanina a specific, which would show if you found them.
But he is not concerned with human things, so even if you went looking...it would be up to him, if you met him.
There was one other person, one time, who wanted to meet him. They tried for a while, and then asked me, to ask him, to meet them...but it would not work if I asked for them.
Moppo is the only one who he has spoken with me about. And the only one he has even noticed.
But you could try and talk with him, if you wanted to.
Find the Library of Dream Sorcerers:
I once Had a dream that I was in a library of dreamers. I asked around on some sorcery forums:
All sorceric dreaming that one does leaves a permanent record of intent that can be discovered by other sorceric dreamers. Depending on how you interpret these things, probably the best thing to do would be to hold one of the "books" in your hands and say out loud that you want to meet those sorcerers in person. That way you could possibly acquire some gifts of power from them and even create new sorceric records.
I'd love to have a BD tast of the Month :)
Ohhh challenging! I totally support this! :)
Visit and gain wisdom from the akashic records.
I was going to suggest this. Awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by PR0G4P4RV18
Here are some of my ideas:
Have an OBE.
Dreamscaping:
Build something for others to visit when you are not dreaming.
Share a dream:
Have a dream with someone else verified by both of your DJ's.
Find you dream guide
Merge with your dream guide
Go to another dimension
Use dreaming to improve a specific waking life skill
-See the white light during a WILD.
-Contact a dead relative, or pet. Possibly ask a specific question.
- Gain a deeper understanding of what consciousness is, and what it means to be aware.
- Communicate with a more highly evolved portion of your own being.
-Gain a better understanding of the illusory nature of time and space.
A library of dreamers?? That sounds fun!! Maybe that's just one room in the akashic halls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man of Shred
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Originally Posted by juroara
That was my initial thought as well!
So I was thinking about this before falling asleep last night...what if we had a Dream Views festival that lasted for a whole month. We would encourage all dreamers to meet up at the festival and have fun and spread the word about the DV community. We could have things start pretty simple with a few game booths, and as more people dream about it they can add rides and stuff as they see fit. I still like the idea of just trying to get a new member from the dreamworld, but I'm interested to see what could happen if lots of people are enjoying some kind of DV sponsored dream carnival. It would be cool to have some kind of official DV meetup place at least. Maybe if the dream share crew doesn't mind, we could have the festival be on the moon or something.
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Originally Posted by Aquanina
I was thinking the other day that maybe we can try creating a shared dreaming space, and see how many people dream of it :shadewink:
Just so long as its not the moon, lol, I had enough trouble getting up there. Maybe some place more simple, like a beach. Or it could be a building! I dreamed I went to a lucid dream class. I thought it would be cool if we made that into a dreaming space, and anyone can go to the dreaming class at night and get the personalized lesson they need.....hmm......maybe a creating a shared dreaming space could be our BD Task?
Yeah! Let's do it. An official shared dreaming space. I'm more in favor of something large and outdoors so it will be easier to find, hence the suggestion for the carnival. I also have trouble getting to the moon lol, I think we should just have it be it's own place like on an island in the middle of the pacific or something like that. Dream Views tropical island retreat. What do you guys think, should this be our first official BD task? I can move these posts to that thread if you want so we aren't hijacking nomads thread :)
I would be horrified if someone thought we were possessive of the dream-moon! The Biodome and the City of Nod are for all dreamers from all dimensions to come and visit, as long as they are friendly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
Great idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by juroara
I have seen you on the Moon, in the Biodome, planting flowers. But, anyway, it is hard for a lot of people to go to the Moon, because of belief, and other reasons... But, that's a story for Deep Dreaming. (or you could search my dj for 'wormhole wyrm').Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
How about Hanauma Bay on Oahu? An island in the middle of the Pacific, and Hanauma Bay is very picturesque. It's a marine sanctuary, perfect for snorkeling. It's full of fish, since no fishing is allowed. Hanauma Bay is a sunken volcanic crater, and there are millions of pictures of it.
I was thinking, we could have a day time, and a night time event. (So if you go there in the day, it'd be one thing, if you go there at night it'd be something else.)
Some ideas:
A huge lighted sign that says: DREAMVIEWS.COM
signs everywhere that say: YOU ARE DREAMING
Impossible carnival rides
A time machine
A magic mirror
A star-gate
A teleporter
A battle-tent
A school
A bar
a dance club
a spa
a meditation space
a campground
a dispensary
a school
a farm of mythical steeds
a farm of mythical pets and familiars
How about booths where we sell things for nothing?
food booths
weapons booths
armor booths
artifact booths
jewelry booths
clothes booths
a nametag, and greeting booth
Shows:
A fireworks show
Concerts
Magic show
-How about selling a free NovaDreamer in a dream? If you ever fall asleep in a dream, you will be lucid.
I agree that it should be in Deep Dreaming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caradon
I have already been there.
There is a parking area, made of dirt, that is muddy in places.
An info booth...where people get tickets and stuff too.
There was one person, in costume, who was walking around, and had a bag of other costumes, and was bringing them around for others to use if they wanted...
I met one guy, who had gotten some sort of rash type thing, all over his torso...and he was showing it. It looked like the spots on the avatar beings, but he was humanish, and the spots were redish. He was asking someone about them.
But I was dreaming in this place, almost five of these linear years ago. Long before the avatar thing came about...so that is just a visual for describing.
It was an outdoors place, which slowly fades into an indoor place.
After the info booth, and then to the left, passed the public bathrooms, where the rash guy was...then along to the left from there, through and passed the parking area?
That is where the indoors area began.
There were alot of tables, like those 8' cafeteria tables.
Nearest the outdoors area, the tables were set up with dream crafts, things that people had made, that were for trade, or sale.
And then to walk further into the tables, that became the area where the ones who were working the amusment park.carnival, could go to sit and eat...some were.
Others were doing various things, practicing what they were going to be doing.
On the far wall, there is a door, just a regular sized door, which goes to_____
And that is where many of the people who were running the place, were coming in. But the others, who were there to visit, or like when people come to see the place, or however...they were not in the back areas. They were coming in on the one road to there.
The road, it comes through a forest area, then along this highway, with alot of curved bridges...and then into this area...where it becomes a dirt road, into the parking area.
There were some signs and things, which at the time, I had not read. There were of course, no lights in them, they were more like wooden painted signs.
I was not interested even then, to get involved with running it, or doing things there. I was just looking out, wondering what the heck I was doing there. Because some lady and guy had driven me there. And they just got out of the car, and sort of blended right into that place, so then I was alone, looking around.
But I found Moppon there, in the back. Not being part of that place, just there, so we were doing something different, there. And I left that place with him.
I could draw out the layout of the place, because it is actually already there.
But it is not something I am interested in doing, as far as being involved with it.
I just happened to have been there. Which is just something I do.
If you move it to deep dreaming, where people have to be accepted into it, then you shut the door to others finding it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
It seems to defeat the purpose.
i like the carnival idea because it would open the space to people of all ld skill levels...
beaches work for me, i love going to the beach!
could be like a dream-themed "burning man", too! (rather than a carnival)
some people set up booths or pavilions, others are more in the visitor mode to these places...
wherever it was located!
and i feel totally welcomed on the moon, always got a very inclusive vibe there ...so wherever it is, it's about setting the collective intention. you could have a moon-base wherever this is located.
I like both ideas - the carnival, and the island resort. :) Although, if we're going to do this, then it would be helpful if pictures would be posted - of the place, I mean. :)
I like the idea of an island. We can always put a carnival on the island. :content:
Maybe we can also come up with an easy way to get into the middle of the ocean. Like if there were portals, or a password that you can say at any door and it will turn into a portal to the island/carnival.
Ooh, that is a wonderful idea!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden
A carnival on a island... :shadewink:
And the idea about the password - you got my vote. :D
The place I was in, it was an island.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden
Not far from shore, when I was there, but that is what the long curved bridges were for.
Here is what I had drawn, if you all want to use it.
Something I could mention, is that places like these, just like any recurring lucid dream place...they sort of have to be solidified, in the place itself.
If they are mental ideas, of what it could be...there is not solidity in it...and it could become just another discussion. Or story projection.
But solid places can, and have been formed, or found. It just has to be done, while there. At least that is what I have learned.
Have fun...I am off.
BD tasks would be very fun. Should we have a badge for it?
YES and sounds awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
Is this even possible? If so...Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
Sounds fairly...
Epic.
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Originally Posted by WakingNomad
That's quite a list! Maybe we should ask each dreamer who comes to our little beach party to add something to it?
We may need to get the art design team on this. I'd love it if we had some pictures of the place. ;)
I feel it is a good idea that you all collectively go to one place. Like a carnival.
:werewolf:
Ill get it together and make it the official BD task for April. Should have the task posted by the 1st, as long as my new laptop cord arrives on time.
I like the carnival idea but my only complaint of this whole BD Task list is what's next after April is done. Are we doing another meeting of some kind or is there something else that has already been planned? :)
I disagree. No one has to be accepted into the Deep Dreaming forum. It's just a matter of asking for access. The info on it is right there for anyone to see. And most people who are interested in this subject already have access anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mea
But, at least, other than the one exception, negative people have been ignoring this thread so far.
The DV carnival is an awesome idea and should be an ongoing thing. There could be other tasks within that one, or other side tasks. But I think it would be cool to have a permanent DV dreamers hang out. :) If it's just a one month thing, I doubt I'll even get around to trying for it. Maybe one or two tries at best. And my control skills at trying to consciously manifest something of that scale have not even been worked on...Quote:
BigFan;1386404]I like the carnival idea but my only complaint of this whole BD Task list is what's next after April is done. Are we doing another meeting of some kind or is there something else that has already been planned? :)
I love the island idea. I come across oceans often enough. I should be able to find an island on one, hopefully. I doubt I could find one specific waking world island. But I should be able to find one in general terms.
Sorry, messed up the quotes a little.
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by Caradon
BTW, Totally up for the idea of task of the month!... it sounds very interesting...
Let me just say: Many of you guys here already know how to LD and OBE so the only thing I would request is:
Don't forget about us little guys! who are still on learning stages!...
maybe we could develope tasks for those who want to "challenge themselves" (like someone around here said) and another task for us begginers! :lol:
Just a thought...
Actually they have this shared dreaming thread somewhere around here... They have this whole thing built up on the moon :lol:, they all go and add stuff... many of the members say they see what others create there, so.... it could be possiblQuote:
Originally Posted by Smuds
Caradon; I disagree. No one has to be accepted into the Deep Dreaming forum. It's just a matter of asking for access. The info on it is right there for anyone to see. And most people who are interested in this subject already have access anyway.
You misunderstood mea. She meant that the deep dreaming forum requires aproval to be involved. Which shuts the door on people, especially if they are labeled negative for raising questions and variables.
But, at least, other than the one exception, negative people have been ignoring this thread so far.
I guess negative people are not acting like assholes enough.
I think it's a good idea if all of us try to go to the same place on the same night. For example, every Thursday night for a month.
I think you misunderstand Deep Dreaming. It doesn't shut the door on anyone who has a genuine interest in the subject matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moppon
Maybe I'm wrong, but I would imagine that anyone wanting to get involved in beyond dreaming tasks would have an interest in the subject.
So far I have only labeled one person as negative. That person joined DV and made their first two posts in this thread. Both of those posts were obviously intended to be insulting. What type of person does that? well, I think I already said it. I didn't see any questions or variables.
Edit: Nomad, that is a good idea. But Sunday night works better for me. I'll try for any night that's picked in any case.
It seems to make more sense to make this a semi-permanent dreaming place until we collectively get bored of it :). Nomad has a good idea making it a weekly thing. But the problem with that is some of us can't 'control' what night were going to be lucid on. Even if we are lucid four times a week, it could be every day but the chosen day!
If we make it every day, obviously people get bored of it!
Maybe we can create a party system? Let's imagine that this dreaming space is already real! Then someone decides to have a dream party at this special place for a number of days straight in a row, at least three days. If you missed the party, it's okay! Start your own or wait for the next party.
We should try to collectively as a group hold hold a three day party at least twice a month. The advantage is, it doesn't mean you have to be a part of the party every time. Maybe you only want to participate once a month. This also means that anyone can try to hold a party, and no one has to feel obliged to party, in case they would rather work on another dreaming task.
Holding a party simply means you will focus on this dream task for the next three days!
Well, what do you think? Too much?
If we still want badge icons there could be two kinds! Successfully dreaming of the party of dream sharing! And successfully bringing something to the party that someone else dreamed of!
Sounds good to me. :)
I want to build a Giant statue of Me and Asuka on this island!
Regarding the DV island carnival, this would be a month long event for people to try and meet up with other DVers and share dreams. Each month, if you guys want, we can have a different meeting place. So basically the BD task would be to dream share with another DVer at this island resort. And this will be for the whole month. You can come back as often as you are able and meet as many DVers as you can. Perhaps special recognition will go to the person who is able to meet the most DVers.
The dreams should NOT be made public or posted in you dream journals, but instead please PM them directly to me...and I will post all dreams from the same night at once, so we know that one persons account is not effecting anothers. We will all be able to look through the dreams and decide as a group if genuine dream sharing took place. That is the only way to get credit for this task.
I have many ideas for BD tasks, so there's no need to have this on go on any longer than a month. Next month, it will be something entirely new, but extremely cool. =)
Regarding the specifics for the meeting place...the DV tropical resort carnival is on an island in the middle if the ocean. It doesn't matter what island or what ocean, so long as you know where you are intending to go. If you come from air...you will see the island as you are flying over the ocean. If you come by portal or teleport...just know telepathically where you are going...to the DV island. If anyone has any other suggestions for how to get there, or about the task in general go right ahead. But let's have this ready to start April 1st
Talk to your past self.
Visit a friend, and see if they can remember any of it the next day.
Aquanima: I am wondering, if you have ever created a solid place in dreaming, where others could also go into?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
I feel like maybe you have not...because this takes more than a month to create a large solid place.
What nomad mentioned about repeating going there, he is right, it has to be over and again, and it takes a while.
I have seen in other places, where they do this thing of everyone try and dream on the same night...and report back...but the ones here already know that dreaming can be shared. And when this BD task was suggested, it did not seem like it was going to become just another test to find out if shared dreaming is acutally happening...
Creating a solid place, is something beyond dreaming...
Mea:
Nomad built his tower and temple on the moon in one of the first nights he made it there: without even trying. Me and raven created hotsprings in the bio dome over night. All three of us built a snow castle, Only I remember it. ALL THREE of us built a theme park on the moon, and neither of us remembered it. They all seem pretty stable to me.
The only problem that I see with this is that by telling someone everything that they will find, unless dream sharing is really taking place, they will likely create it according to what you told them instead of discovering what is there themselves :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Man of Shred
Which is why you use the beautiful hiding of facts!Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFan
Mea...even nomad said the shared dream should be verified by both DJs. It's not about testing dream sharing, that's just how you get credit for the task. If that bothers you, then maybe you should stick to Deep Dreaming or something. Also maybe try to be a little more open minded, you might not mean to be, but you're coming across as if you are some kind of authority on the matter. Which would be unwise for anyone to do, considering the extremely subjective nature of the topic.
But like I said, it's still open for discussion of course! But let's try to keep it constructive and avoiding making statements about what is right or wrong when that likely only pertains to you own experience. I think almost everyone here has knowingly shared dreams, and we all have good input from each of our experiences. We should learn from one another, not tell them that their way us wrong, just because it worked differently for them.
Yeah, that is alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man of Shred
I apparently misunderstood the concept. I guess I assumed that this BD task place, was about consciously creating an energetically solid place.
Stable I understand, to stabalize things, for lucid dreams.
But I was considering it as Beyond dreaming. My mistake.
That is a great idea about PM'ing you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
I suggest it being a specific island in the middle of a specific ocean. It seems to be easier to meet people at a dreamscape that is created on a dream version of a physical place.
Ok cool, I figured you'd have good input on that issue. Any other suggestions for where it should be? The Maldives are amazing, Figi just seems like a great place cause everyone is familiar with the name, that bay on ouahu is really gorgeous too. I was hoping to find an entire island dedicated to just this purpose though. There are many gorgeous islands out there, feel free to suggest one, or let ne know which you'd prefer.Quote:
Originally Posted by WakingNomad
Sometimes, aquanina...if I am speaking about things, and they maybe come across as an authority way of speaking, when I am just speaking about what I know...
Perhaps, that is because I know about them.
If it offends you, or steps on your toes in some way because it is your pet project? Then maybe deep dreaming would be a better place for it.
I have a feeling that no one will back me up on this, and I probably won't get any thanks for saying it. But if you had actuslly read the posts of many who wrote here, they have said themselves that they would either like the project to go on longer, even to become a more permanent place...and some have said that a month is not long enough.
In the end, it does not really matter to me how you do it. Because as I said, I would not be doing it anyways, as in creating it, with the others here.
All I am doing, is writing some things I do know on it, and you all can take it or leave it.
Even though you are using the things I have written, it still seems to make you uneasy that someone may actually have more experience, and know things about it.
Claiming your authority by doing your passive aggressive circle talking at me, does not change what I know about creating solid places, shared dreams, or going into other peoples dreams. It also does not change that I already dreamt this place, three years ago. Which I put into my DJ, a 4-6-2007 entry...if anyone feels to read it.
I just waited to see when the wagons would come around...and they have.
I am not interested in dreaming cliques.
i like the idea of the time for the party occurring over a three day period.
How about an uninhabited island? That way we know all the people we see are either dreamers or DC's (in case someone OBE's there)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
You seem to fail to understand the concept of a monthly task...I'll attribute this to you being new here. But every month we have a Task of the Month...it changes...from month to month. You see...despite your assumptions, I did indeed read every post carefully and take them into consideration. The reason this is only going on for a month, is because...it will be...the task of the month! And next month, there will be a new task. However, if the consensus is to create a more permanent shared dreaming space and hold parties or whatever...then that would be an entirely separate thread, as it would probably be separate from the BD monthly task. We are not going to have the same BD task every month...that would become boring, and there are so many other great BD tasks just waiting to be taken on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mea
I'm sorry but, I just don't know what you're talking about. How are we using anything you have written? The concept for the DV Island Retreat is something completely and enitrely separate from anything you have even mentioned here. Yet you keep saying you've been there...but it wasn't even created yet. It just...makes no sense. It's like you're trying to claim credit for something new that we are all trying to do right now...because you did something similar 5 years ago. That doesn't really work logically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mea
Again, I think you are failing to understand that what we are talking about here has absolutely NOTHING to do with the place that you created and have visited. You will not get credit for doing a task 5 years ago. It's not even the same task. This task involves members of THIS community...which you were not a part of back then...who want to try and meet up on a DV island of their creation and dream share.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mea
This is not a "dreaming clique". Anyone is welcome to join in. You've said at least three times now that you're not interested in participating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mea
Right then...let's plow forward guys...this has been derailed enough. :roll:
First question...would you all prefer the "BD Tasks" to be moved to Deep Dreaming? I guess they'd need a name change if they were.
Second...do you want to create a separate thread for a permanent shared dreaming space, independent from the BD Task of the Month? Or do you want to continue with what we have, and keep it as this month's task? Do we want to try to have a new place to meet up every month? Do we want to go with the party idea? And how will any of that relate to the BD TotM or should it be separate? Need your guys opinions and feedback on this. :)
edit: just saw nomad's post...yes exactly! An uninhabited island...that's what I was hoping for....something ONLY for dreamers. So we can build whatever we want there. I love that Bay that you mentioned, I looked at pics and it was so beautiful, but there are also a lot of tourists and such, and I'd prefer to have an island all to our selves. We should hunt for our perfect island. :)
I think I would like this to be in Deep Dreaming. It might be annoying to have nay-sayers spoil the fun when they start barking that our monthly task isn't even possible for this or that reason :?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
I kind of like the idea of creating a permanent dream space. But, maybe it's not meant to be the carnival on the island? Maybe this should just be our ToTM for now, and we can see how it went :). Besides, I am interested in your other ToTM ideas! So if we do make it a permanent thing it should be a different project than the ToTM.Quote:
Second...do you want to create a separate thread for a permanent shared dreaming space, independent from the BD Task of the Month? Or do you want to continue with what we have, and keep it as this month's task? Do we want to try to have a new place to meet up every month? Do we want to go with the party idea? And how will any of that relate to the BD TotM or should it be separate? Need your guys opinions and feedback on this. :)
'nother idea: Go into a DV members dream (with their permission). Tell them to do a reality check or try to make them lucid in someway. And have that person Remember it.
I've gotten DV members Lucid before but not with them remembering it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man of Shred
Twoshadows Moonbeam and PJ. Oh, And I remember seeing Mark and telling him it was a dream once, but he was not interested at the time. :?
That would be awesome if someone remembered it.
Caradon It worked on my twice. Where I specifically Remembered Raven Knight telling me to do a Reality check.
Cool!Quote:
Originally Posted by Man of Shred
Exactly what I had in mind :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Walms
Nice idea, would love for someone to come into my dreams and remind me to do a RC or I call it a DC(Dream Check) :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Man of Shred
I agree with this. I loved BD because of the different ideas but having nay-sayers really spoiled it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by juroara
Didn't Nomad already create a biodome on the moon for that specific purpose? Personally, I think it should be on earth instead because of problems that people have of going to the moon :)Quote:
Originally Posted by juroara
Agreed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
Yes, please, although, since I'm still only had 3 LDs and working on getting more, I'm not sure if a month will be enough for me at least :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
Well, Nomad has the biodome on the moon which is considered as a dream sharing place for anyone to visit anytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
It will take sometime to find the perfect island due to many of them having tourists or occupied by people :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
You seem to fail to understand the concept of a monthly task...I'll attribute this to you being new here. But every month we have a Task of the Month...it changes...from month to month. You see...despite your assumptions, I did indeed read every post carefully and take them into consideration. The reason this is only going on for a month, is because...it will be...the task of the month! And next month, there will be a new task. However, if the consensus is to create a more permanent shared dreaming space and hold parties or whatever...then that would be an entirely separate thread, as it would probably be separate from the BD monthly task. We are not going to have the same BD task every month...that would become boring, and there are so many other great BD tasks just waiting to be taken on.
I don't fail to understand it, we are just having two conversations. I do understand the concept of a task for the Month...and to bring the two conversations together here, it could possibly be something, where for BD tasks, which unlike LD tasks, could sometimes grow over longer time periods...what if when that month is up, when a new task is begun...the current task could be left in the wings, in it's own area for whomever would like to work on it more, or has not had the time to really get into it? Then it becomes both...a task of the month, and a longer term BD event.
Because there are those who would become bored without continuous new things given to them to do...and with subjects that go into areas beyond regular and lucid dreams, there are those individuals who have a more indepth approach.
I'm sorry but, I just don't know what you're talking about. How are we using anything you have written? The concept for the DV Island Retreat is something completely and enitrely separate from anything you have even mentioned here. Yet you keep saying you've been there...but it wasn't even created yet. It just...makes no sense. It's like you're trying to claim credit for something new that we are all trying to do right now...because you did something similar 5 years ago. That doesn't really work logically.
Dreaming, is not logical.
PMing you, the carnival, and various other things, are things I have mentioned here, and then it suddenly becomes part of the plan...along with a few other things. Which I don't mind.
Something you misunderstand though, is that you think I have said I created the place. I didn't say that, and I did not create it. But you apparently did not read the dream. It was three years ago.
I dream things beforehand. They are not my dreams, and I would not want credit for them, or the places they happen in. However, what has been decribed here, by nomad in his list, and some others, describes the place I went to, un-logically, before it happened.
I have that happen often, so I don't find it odd, or just something similar I did before. That is like saying, that when people meet in a dream, they did not really meet, it was just in their mind.
The cool thing to me, is that you are all speaking about creating, somewhere I have been, beforehand. Which shows me that you all may actually create it now in the past.
That intrigues me, but it is not something I could, or would take credit for. But time, is not linear.
Again, I think you are failing to understand that what we are talking about here has absolutely NOTHING to do with the place that you created and have visited. You will not get credit for doing a task 5 years ago. It's not even the same task. This task involves members of THIS community...which you were not a part of back then...who want to try and meet up on a DV island of their creation and dream share.
Well, I will say again...I am not looking for credit. The ways I go into things, don't require credit points, or approval from others, or any of that. It was not someplace I created, and if you chose to look at it, you would see that.
This is not a "dreaming clique". Anyone is welcome to join in. You've said at least three times now that you're not interested in participating.
'This task involves members of THIS community...which you were not a part of back then...who want to try and meet up on a DV island of their creation and dream share.'
Unfortunately, it is a dreaming clique. And unless people would like the inner circle tat, what they say, or contribute, tends to just get shot down, or ignored...
Have fun with that.
I did say I am not interested in being involved with creating it. I have my own things I am working on. But I cannot help that I dreamt of this place beforehand.
Take it, or leave it. In the end, it does not matter to me.
Right then...let's plow forward guys...this has been derailed enough. :roll::sleepmeditate2:
First question...would you all prefer the "BD Tasks" to be moved to Deep Dreaming? I guess they'd need a name change if they were.
Second...do you want to create a separate thread for a permanent shared dreaming space, independent from the BD Task of the Month? Or do you want to continue with what we have, and keep it as this month's task? Do we want to try to have a new place to meet up every month? Do we want to go with the party idea? And how will any of that relate to the BD TotM or should it be separate? Need your guys opinions and feedback on this. :)
edit: just saw nomad's post...yes exactly! An uninhabited island...that's what I was hoping for....something ONLY for dreamers. So we can build whatever we want there. I love that Bay that you mentioned, I looked at pics and it was so beautiful, but there are also a lot of tourists and such, and I'd prefer to have an island all to our selves. We should hunt for our perfect island. :)[/QUOTE]
I have to agree that these kinds of tasks would belong in DD instead of BD.
The reason being--BD allows debate. I don't want to have a thread or sticky in BD which I have to tell people that the rules don't apply in it and they aren't allowed to bring up points of debate.
DD exists as a place to explore and do some of these kinds of things without debates or derailing of the original purpose. I don't want to exclude newbies or people who are unaware of DD, but it does seem like the proper place for this idea.
We could have the first BD task be to create this place, and then it can continue as a long term project and the monthly tasks go on to do different things. I like the idea of having parties, but I'm thinking maybe a week long party once a month would be better than three days... That's just a personal preference though.
See, in dreaming, in the art of dreaming there are many facets, many vibrations of awareness.
A problem that comes up with groups that try and do dreaming tasks, is when they want to just plow forward without any real understanding of what they are doing, they want to experiment, to find out if it is really real.
If that was tempered with an ability to hear people outside of your frame of reference, then it may actually do something for you energetically.
But that rarely is the case, and it is not here. Because already the organizers are talking about it, as derailing the project.
I have been in Mea's place several times on other sites, and the general resolve is like it is here. Where the organizers really just want to hear support and ideas to further the stated direction.
Either we are for them or against them.
I know about dreaming, I know what will happen if it is done in a way as it is here. And mea knows.
I have mentioned to people who did these experiments without really understanding energy and vibration, what can happen.
And funny thing, it did happen, which was alot of energetic entanglements, or they no longer could even focus enough to dream lucidly.
They were connecting with people they really didn't know, didn't know their memory stores or life form points of awareness, and forging a big messy, gooey, brownie of energy. And at the end were still clueless about what happened.
They didn't even make the connection to their blind forging ahead and the energetic result later on.
They get defensive when someone doesn't just do the polite support structure.
The suggestions of moving this to deep dreaming, I know is another way of silencing any suggestions/objections to the task, because that forum is invisible to anyone that is not accepted into it by the MODs.
I feel this task should be moved to the Newbie zone, because people that really know about dreaming are going to know what can happen.
And if they are going to be considered negative for it, then let the newbies find out for themselves.
I am sure people feel they do know, because they read Castaneda, Robert Monroe, Laberge, and many others, but that is mental memory, not experience with energy and vibrations.
But I do support people going to this island carnival, then I can find you all in one place.
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THAT is a very good idea. I love it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hidden
The purpose of Deep Dreaming isn't to shut out people who disagree... It's a place for people who want to discuss and experiment without skeptics harping on them about how what they're trying to do isn't possible. You don't have to do anything major to get in: just go to the user CP to apply and say why you're interested in joining. It's not some sort of exclusive club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moppon
I wholeheartedly disagree with moving this to the Newbie section. Beyond dreaming stuff should stay in BD/DD. I don't know what you mean by "people that really know about dreaming are going to know what can happen."
I`m liking this idea.Probably not what you were thinking of,but your quite welcome to use my island if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMyHw...eature=related
Alright guys...let's find our island! :D http://www.privateislandsonline.com/
I found one with a remote control drawbridge before...let me see if I can find it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquanina
I am all for moving this to DD, and I also love the idea of PMing Nina the entries!
Isla Kiniw looks pretty! It's been sold, do we care about that? Or do we just need images?
I suggest Emerald Cay.
There is a remote controlled drawbridge, mansion plus about 20 little houses. Pics included. :shadewink:
There is a movie theatre... and the seating is black leather lazy boys...
I think I'm in love with this place!
And the location is called "Silly Creek" hehe! :)
Naiya... That island looks amazing! O.O
The island website kept giving me errors! Unless rich people are buying like crazy. So I just started to make it up. How about something with a volcanic crater? Something we can see clearly as we fly towards our island!
http://www.wayfaring.info/wp-content...6280018_01.jpg
Something with palm trees and flowering plants towering over you!
http://www.nicaraguaninvestments.com...ers-Resize.JPG
And I guess we'll need at least one structure on the island already? A place to start out with?
http://fijihomesforsale.com/images/V...AND-Resort.jpg
Isn't it so cute? XD
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06...land-villa.jpg
http://www.banloma.com/images/banlomamontage.jpg
Just some ideas!
Shake their hand, good bye. If they are lucid, they will remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Man of Shred
Wow Naiya...I want that Island!! That is amazing lol. Juroara...beautiful pics. :)
Well guys I don't know if we're going to find a perfect "deserted" island. It seems that any island that is large enough and beautiful enough is going to have some sort of established facilities already in place. And honestly, that's just peachy if it's an island like Emerald Cay. I can totally see myself entering via that movie theater room...I have a tendency of stepping into and out of movie theater screens during the HI transition. Plus it's just a gorgeous island.
We could use it as a base to build off of in the dream world.
OR
We could keep looking for a deserted island that is entirely empty, and add to it ourselves with photos and descriptions like juroara (you should check out the islands in figi, some of them are volcanic)
Tomorrow is the 1st! What is the decision! :panic:
lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by juroara
Let's just have the island be Emerald Cay. I love that one. I will post the official task in the Deep Dreaming forum sometime this evening. But it will just involve going to Emerald Cay, as the meeting place for the month of April to attempt to Dream Share with other DVers. I hope people participate!! :)
April Deep Dreaming Task of the Month
Go check it out! I really hope you all participate, and I look forward to meeting all of you at Emerald Cay!!! :D :shadewink:
"Death is always on the way, but the fact that you don't know when it will arrive seems to take away from the finiteness of life. It's that terrible precision that we hate so much. But because we don't know, we get to think of life as an inexhaustible well. Yet everything happens a certain number of times, and a very small number, really. How many more times will you remember a certain afternoon of your childhood, some afternoon that's so deeply a part of your being that you can't even conceive of your life without it? Perhaps four or five times more. Perhaps not even. How many more times will you watch the full moon rise? Perhaps twenty. And yet it all seems limitless."