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      Unhappy Dreaming Issue

      Every person dreams. That's a fact. There are many people, however, who do not always recall the dreams they experience every night. I have to say I must be the ultimate example of this. For the past decade or so, I have never vividly experienced a dream. I have had some glimpses in the past, but nothing that I could remember clearly. Every night I go to sleep, and it feels like I instantly wake up and it's morning. I have tried just about all the techniques there are, and nothing works. How can you help a person recall their dreams if they have never experienced one?

      I have heard that dreams are a sort of window into our subconscious, that they help open our minds to issues that need to get resolved in our lives. I feel like I'm being ripped off of a chance to improve my life (and plus, all the dreams I hear of seem so interesting!) Please, I'm starting to get jealous and frustrated of all you dreamers out there. Can anyone help me dream?

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      One thing I find is that when I have dreams, I often don't remember them as clearly unless I lie there for five to ten minutes in my bed thinking about my dreams. I don't think to hard, I don't rack my brain. I just lie there kind of thinking about dreams. Gradually, the dreams come to me until I remember them very clearly and I remember how I experienced them. The thing is I have to lie totally still until my body thinks that it's going back to sleep. It gets in that partially asleep stage again but my mind is still awake since it is dwelling on something, I geuss. Then my dream memory kicks back in and I instantly write everything I remember down in a journal by my bed.

      I don't have to do this anymore, but when I started it really helped. Try it!

      (Also, if you aren't writing your dreams down you may remember them for breig periods when you are barely awake then forget them seconds later. This is a good tenchnique to stabalize that.)

      I'd give what I said a shot for a couple weeks trying it how was advised. I wish you the best of luck.
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      I appreciate the advice, but that is pretty much the same thing I've always heard. When I wake up, I have no sensation of dreaming at all. I have no dream or even partial dream to record in a journal. It's like my mind gets erased when I wake up. Lieing in bed as soon as I wake up does nothing, since It feels like I have nothing to remember about the night.

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      there are certain foods that can give you more vivid dreams, like bananas, dark chocolate, or peanut butter. You could use that, and autosuggestion... like meditating to clear your mind and then as you fall asleep you'll be able to focus on phrases like "I will wake up after my dream" "My dreams will be vivid" something along the lines of that. Hopefully that will give you something. If you get anything at all... anything... a name, an emotion, a color, just remembering someone in a dream or any topic that the dream could have been about no matter how small, write it down and hopefully it will get to the point where you can remember a dream. It may take time, but if you learn to train yourself, you could do it. Just think positive and believe you can do it, because doubting is what's going to make it impossible.

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      Just wondering - how many hours do you sleep / night? Start with a nightmare that wakes you up, and write it down. Tell yourself that you will remember your dreams. Suggestion is powerful.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
      When I wake up, I have no sensation of dreaming at all. ....... It's like my mind gets erased when I wake up. Lieing in bed as soon as I wake up does nothing, since It feels like I have nothing to remember about the night.
      I think you hit it right on - it is being 'erased'. Why don't you use sleep programming to investigate The Truth how it is being erased?

      Want to try? Here's what to do. Say the following phrase before you go to sleep:

      "I WISH TO KNOW THE TRUTH: HOW ARE MY DREAMS BEING ERASED?"

      Then go to sleep - your dream tonight will give you The Truth. Take notes when you wake up.

      Good Luck.

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      hey djinternet, if he cant REMEMBER his dreams, how is he gonna use that...
      I have a dream...

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      Hi Kusanagi,

      I am sorry to hear that you haven't remembered a dream but really want to - you must be frustrated!

      You mentioned that you have had small glimpses before? What were these? These tiny little memories of dreams are likely to be your easiest way into remembering more aspects of your dreams. If you can cling onto any memories at all, write them down as soon as you remember them and try to get as much detail as you can. Even if it's 'loud noise' or 'green tinge' or 'dizzy feeling' etc. Simple memories like this are still memories of dreams. If you concentrate on these memories, slowly you should be able to climb out of that emptyness of the night.

      I know that I have had periods of time when I have unable to recall dreams and when I wake, i feel as though I have been staring at a black dark screen all night. It may also help you to remember your dreams if you try to go back sleep as soon as you wake and while you're trying to go back to sleep, try very hard to remmeber what it was you were dreaming.

      The reason some people don't remember their dreams seems unclear (unless somone can enlighten me) but, like suggested above, it could be due to how much sleep you get. It could also be to do with your subconcsious. Have you tried reading about dream recall? There is literature out there on the subject.

      Also try this link if you haven't already! http://www.crhsc.umontreal.ca/dreams...on/recall1.htm
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      Hi. I'm also a newbie here, though I've been having anomalous dreams for about five years now.

      It started very suddenly, for me. You'll know immediately when it begins.

      It was very clear to me when and why I started having anomalous dreams. Initially, I wasn't "lucid" in the sense of "in control", but these dreams were so different from those I had experienced before. My dreams were suddenly were vivid, detailed, full color, fractal, sometimes computer graphic, with music. They contained realistic but totally unfamiliar technologies, landscapes, weapons, vehicles, buildings, landscapes. It was obvious that some change had occurred.

      The first such dream was a view looking down (as if from a news camera) from about 1000 feet over the runway of a small/medium airport. A passenger jet, like an MD-80, was taking off. It was full color, very vivid, and I can still clearly remember details of the plane and airport. I watched it gain speed, lift a bit off the runway, then fall back down to crash at the end of the runway. As the scene closed, a narrator said "We will have further information on the source of this extraordinary footage in a later broadcast." Well. This wasn't misty, foggy, ambiguous in any sense. I was clearly plugged in to something extraordinary.

      The next really noticeably anomalous dream was a nuclear war.

      So ... be careful what you ask for.

      Anyway, this all started shortly after beginning a period of intense study of 4-D geometries. I am a layman, so could do just so much, but I was trying to create a 4-D pyramid. I ended up with a pretty interesting result. Soon after this, contemplating thsi figure, the dreams began. They have only expanded in scope and clarity over the years. I, too, am a newbie here, but am glad to have found people with like experiences of anomalous dreams.

      I suggest that you check out some of the excellent material on weird geometry at the following site. http://www.miqel.com/fractals_math_p...mensional.html Just contemplate. Try to understand intuitively, in basic concept, what's being depicted. Relax. Keep studying. I don't doubt that geometry is a key.

      Finally, I should say that I believe that dreams are real. Dreams like that above are real information, about real situations, potentially affecting (at some level) real feeling subjective entities. Hence, if you do succeed, I encourage you to act with some restraint and responsibility in your dreams. The golden rule is a good guide. Try not to do to others what you wouldn't want others to do to you.

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      Quote Originally Posted by blackjack View Post
      hey djinternet, if he cant REMEMBER his dreams, how is he gonna use that...
      The investigation of why dreams are being erased is what's on the table.

      The problem: dreams are being erased.

      The answer: investigate why, via sleep programming. Sleep programming - asking for the truth - short circuits the dream erasure. We just need a snippet of anything to get the truth, here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Dash View Post
      Just wondering - how many hours do you sleep / night? Start with a nightmare that wakes you up, and write it down. Tell yourself that you will remember your dreams. Suggestion is powerful.
      During weekdays, I usually get around 7 or 8 hours a night. On weekends, I get around 10 hours. So I doubt that lack of sleep is my problem. In regards to Griff05's comment, Those glimpses were usually the feeling that I had dreamed something in the night- nothing really solid. It usually happens about once a year. Hopefully when I get the next glimpse I will be able to use some techniques to try and recall something- anything.

      I've tried eating certain foods for dreams- anything high in magnesium. That hasn't worked. I haven't tried meditation though, that sounds like an interesting concept. Thank you to everyone who has commented so far.

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      I can only think of meditation which can help you.

      Maybe Dream Yoga is something for you ?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
      Every person dreams. That's a fact.
      Actually, some people with damage to the parietal lobe of the brain can be rendered unable to ever dream again.

      ...Sorry for the irrelevant comment, I just thought I'd share.


      If you can't remember anything you dream, chances are your memory as a whole isn't that great either. You should go Google something like "ways to improve your memory" - you should get some good visualization exercises that will improve your memory as a whole (which should theoretically affect your dream recall).

      Personally, I find resolve to be the key to good recall. When I desperately want to remember my dreams, I can say that it usually helps to, before falling asleep, repeat over and over that "Tomorrow I will remember my dreams", or something of a similar nature.

      You have to be confident and resolute about remembering your dreams - it's your own doubts about it that'll keep you from remembering them.
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      Do you ever wake up feeling particularly angry or upset for any reason? Or any other emotions? Sometimes this can happen after a dream even if you don't recall the dream itself or anything solid from the dream. This might help you?

      I find that when I start wrtiting in my dream journal, loads more info floods out. Even if I woke up with nothing more than 'sad feeling' once I start writing, I'll remember. It does sound like your lack of dream recall could go deeper than just 'not remembering' but this might help you. You are most certainly able to recall dreams because if not, you wouldn't remember anything at all. Ever.
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      2. Find a magic wand and start casting spells
      3. Fly (of course) but also create stupidly high slides up in the air with the clouds and ride on them until I get bored
      4. Practice karate with a pro

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      Quote Originally Posted by Griff05 View Post
      Even if I woke up with nothing more than 'sad feeling' once I start writing, I'll remember.
      Another thing to look for is, oddly enough, if a song is stuck in your head. Lately I have been waking up with little to no recollection, but been able to bring back fragments because I whistled and mentally repeated the lyrics to the song. This could be even better if you play some kind of musical instrument and can imagine playing it.

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      Yes - this has happened to me before now, I wake up with the song so clearly in my head, and the more it plays in my head the more I can remember, it's so weird!
      Always question reality...
      Lucid Goals:
      1. Build up my dream recall and become extremely lucid
      2. Find a magic wand and start casting spells
      3. Fly (of course) but also create stupidly high slides up in the air with the clouds and ride on them until I get bored
      4. Practice karate with a pro

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi View Post
      During weekdays, I usually get around 7 or 8 hours a night. On weekends, I get around 10 hours. So I doubt that lack of sleep is my problem. In regards to Griff05's comment, Those glimpses were usually the feeling that I had dreamed something in the night- nothing really solid. It usually happens about once a year. Hopefully when I get the next glimpse I will be able to use some techniques to try and recall something- anything.
      If nothing have helped I can suggest you to try Calea Zakatechichi. It makes dreams more vivid (in your case it can help to boost your memory recall).

      Also, if you managed to remember some dreams or aforemention have helped, then here is advice about dream journal. Do not try to remember all the details about what happened. The story of dreams do not help much as there is big variety of plots, but rather where this have happened. As practice shows this is much more effective variance of dream journal, because number of places is rather limited - a big share is in The Home (place where do you live - it may differ a bit especially if you lived in different places thorough your life), The Job/The School/The College (depends on your circumstances, also The Job may not be the same as the College, I am not sure here), The City (place represents city where your Home is) and some others.

      Next get Visio or Corel Draw or just piece of paper and start your Dream Map. Place Home in the center. The City will be around it. Then place other piece of puzzle as you feel they should be located.

      This method also have some nice side effect: after some times you start remember old dreams in packs, i.e. 5-10 dreams which were in the same place.

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