Lucid Dream God

[omega]

I just found the site today, but I've been reading as much as I can and started planning my journey into Lucid Dreaming. What I was wondering, what is there beyond self control? Once you have broken the bounds of our normal world, such as gravity, I'm assuming summoning is one of the big next steps. Now, has anyone succeeded in trying to control time? Because I believe with some level of focus, you could somehow set yourself up to control time, in essence slowing it down, but you retaining your normal speed. For example, has anyone ever seen clock stoppers? The protagonists of the movie use a watch to accelerate their own movement, in essence slowing down the rest of the world. Lets say you have a 15 minute LD. Now, if you could slow down the time to say, half, but you keep yourself going at normal speed, could you not fool your dream self into believing your having a 30 minute LD? The only thing is, if this is possible, where would the limit be? I don't know if this is possible, but what keeps you from believing you can slow down time to stop, in essence trapping you in the dream. The only thought I had was that the 15 minute dream you are *actually* having, does not turn into a 30 minute dream, but instead you are moving twice as fast and the dream ends up only being 7 1/2 minutes on your "dream biological clock" (I'm not sure what else to call the actual time your body feels it spent in the dream). It's just a thought I had (If you can't tell I'm into the theory of Lucid just as much as the actual performance of it myself). I think that's it for now, comments are welcome.

[jaredstryker]

I slowed down time once in an LD before. It was really cool like I was a ninja or something.

[TygrHawk]

Hi, omega! Some of our members claim that they have had LDs that seemed to last for months, or even years. Personally, I haven't figured out how to do that, but it seems to be possible.

[SantaDreamsToo]

its very possible, but i dont think its so much of slowing down time as it is of your mind picking out scenes like a movie, only showing the important parts, because i once had an LD that seemed to last for about 2 days but i do distinctly rememeber after waking up some parts that didnt make sense, just little things though, like i ran to get on my bike but i dont actually remember running, i just remember getting on the bike...although yes, while your dreaming they do seem to last for hours/ days its just an illusion brought on by your mind. (which isnt nessacaraly a bad thing)

[omega]

Alright, because it seemed possible, I thought I'd throw it out there. Years people have had them? Do they remember actually living those years, or key events?

[H Savvy]

In one of the few lucid dreams I had, when I tried to exert control, (actually, I had tried unsuccessfully to fly :x) I had some control of time. It took a lot of conversation, but I actually stopped it briefly, and started going backwards.

[themindsi]

I have never altered time in a lucid dream, but as far as regular dreams go, I've had dreams that have lasted days/wks/months... it's really odd. I wake up feeling really disoriented, and sometimes have trouble distinguishing things that happened in my dream with things that actually occured in real life.

[quillchorus]

Prolonging lucid dreams happens, definitely (, and it doesn't really matter if you're stopping time or not, perception is reality...although, the stopping time thing is a little out there for me...). I've had lucid dreams that were days long. I went in with the intention of having a long dream (another one of my experiments) and eventually did have an amazing and detailed experience much, much longer than my REM time. As far as going beyond LDs I would suggest checking this site out: http://brain.web-us.com/lucid/luciddreamingFAQ.htm From 2.19 and on, it discusses things for people who are experienced LDers and want to, kick it up a notch, so to speak, including shared lucid dreams, precognitive lucid dreams, using LDs to affect physical matter, stopping real time in an LD (which is what you're talking about), having an OBE, etc. Feel free to take what you read with a grain of salt, or if you're like me, you'll want to test out every one for viability! haha...that site, though, is really helpful in other respects and I highly recommend it, it also has ten different methods to induce an LD. Hope that helps!

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by omega I just found the site today, but I've been reading as much as I can and started planning my journey into Lucid Dreaming. What I was wondering, what is there beyond self control? Once you have broken the bounds of our normal world, such as gravity, I'm assuming summoning is one of the big next steps. Now, has anyone succeeded in trying to control time? Because I believe with some level of focus, you could somehow set yourself up to control time, in essence slowing it down, but you retaining your normal speed. For example, has anyone ever seen clock stoppers? The protagonists of the movie use a watch to accelerate their own movement, in essence slowing down the rest of the world. Lets say you have a 15 minute LD. Now, if you could slow down the time to say, half, but you keep yourself going at normal speed, could you not fool your dream self into believing your having a 30 minute LD? The only thing is, if this is possible, where would the limit be? I don't know if this is possible, but what keeps you from believing you can slow down time to stop, in essence trapping you in the dream. The only thought I had was that the 15 minute dream you are *actually* having, does not turn into a 30 minute dream, but instead you are moving twice as fast and the dream ends up only being 7 1/2 minutes on your \"dream biological clock\" (I'm not sure what else to call the actual time your body feels it spent in the dream). It's just a thought I had (If you can't tell I'm into the theory of Lucid just as much as the actual performance of it myself). I think that's it for now, comments are welcome. Do you know how "High Speed" photography works -- they put many more frames through the photography camera than ordinary, so that when the same film is run through the projector at ordinary speed, the scene will appear much 'slower' than normal. High Speed Photography translates into slow motion appearance. Well, his is what the mind can do. If there is an Adrenaline Rush during a Dream, then what this does is it 'speeds up' the mind, so that time 'appears slower'. It comes in very handy -- when the mind is quickened and time appears slower, it give one more 'time' to observe and react to an emergency. Those dream in which you 'think' you are moving very slow... well, actually you are moving at normal speed, but the adrenaline of fear has quickened your thinking so that more thought goes into each unit of normal time, only making things appear to be going slower. It could really help out in a fight, where things move so fast. Would it not be better to go into a fight where everything 'seemed' to go only a fraction as quickly as normal. One could plan one's blows while being careful not to be struck one's self. After I experienced this a dreams more than a few times, I think it happened to me while awake. During my motorcycle racing phase, I was in several accidents, and though I don't remember what I did, witnesses told me that I avoided injury by doing some amazing things in a split fraction of a second. All I can remember is the immanent impact and then, a moment later, running down the road ahead of the accident -- if the mind did speed up and slow down time, then it apparently escaped my consciousness while it did so, but leaving me with the results of being unscathed amidst the wreckage of busted up cars and a motorcycles.

[dreamtamer007]

I am really impressed that a person with no experience into lucid dreaming would have so much insight. You must be a perceptual individual. Like Einstein said all things are relative. Example: When the shuttle is in space it appears to be floating and not moving very fast. When in reality it is moving around 17000 mph. But that same craft when it enters the atmosphere, the relative speed is indicated buy the heat of the air it’s moving threw. If you speed up your thought relatively to your dreamscape, time will be slower. If you slow down the dreamscape and speed up your thoughts it will slow down time even more. I have not tried this yet but it is high on my list of things to do. Hope you have a lucid dream soon.

[kimpossible]

>> but what keeps you from believing you can slow down time to stop, in essence trapping you in the dream Biology. Self-preservation is going to wake you up at some point regardless of the position/scale of the observer. So even if you feel like it's gone on for an eternity, AND you were able to somehow prolong the REM cycle, physical time is going to catch up.

[ChinPriest]

ive wondered this same thing. thanks for starting the thread! however. i have another question that i believe could be a rather serious one. in a lucid dream of yours is it possible to see/meet/encounter your negative self or the guardian of your mind/subconscious? i dont know for sure if such a thing exists, however i believe that such a guardian being of some sort of your subconscious exists in some form. i really dont know how to describe it but from characteristics that have been described about the mind on this site lead into the direction that there could be a guardian type of being. even though im a newb at this please dont flame me, but try to reason what i am saying lol

[JeX]

mmm never met a guardian of my subconscious mind or anything but it is possible. about the time stopping thing never been able to do it, but i can do another form of cheating my way through my dream. if anyone played prince of persia then you should know you can see clips of the level. so sometimes i see a fast forwarded version of my dream and then act it out. and if something bad happens i try to change my actions. i cant control this envision thing only happens when im scared or something. Anything like this happen to you guys?