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      How to Increase Realism in a Lucid Dream

      How to Increase Realism in a Lucid Dream

      This is my first post in dreamviews. I hope it can help your lucid dreaming.
      Dream realism is one of the most important things in the lucid dream. Lucidity is also relative to realism.
      Try all of these and find ways that work for you.

      If you find mistakes on this tutorial, please point out.(Including grammatical mistakes.)

      Shout loudly
      People generally can't shout loud in a muddy dream.
      Shout "I'am dreaming!" over and over again.
      When your shouting comes out clear and loud, your dream will be more vivid!

      Watch your palms
      Focus on lines of your palms.(Or any rugged object)
      Before long, your dream realism and stablity will increase.

      Stimulate tactual sense
      Stimulating tactual sense like clapping or rubbing your hands can make your dream more vivid.
      While stimulating yourself, concentrate on how it feels.
      As your feelings get stronger, your dream will be more clear too.

      Fly high
      Dream Flying also increases your dream realism and lucidity.
      Fly high as much as possible.

      Spin
      Open your arms and spin rapidly like a top few seconds.
      While spinning, say to yourself "The things next time I will see are also dream."
      Dream Spinning is most powerful way to increase your dream realism.

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      I think the most effective way of increasing realism, is simply will it to happen.
      DOH!

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      Re: How to Increase Realism in a Lucid Dream

      Originally posted by dreamy

      If you find mistakes on this tutorial, please point out.(Including grammatical mistakes.)
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      Stimulate tactual sense
      Stimulating tactual sense like claping or rubbing your hands can make your dream more vividly. (vivid - grammatical mistake)
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      btw thanks for the tips

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      just noticed another mistake in the same paragraph lol "claping" = "clapping"
      [/edit]

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      Does straining/stressing too much to control a dream reduce the realism/intensity of the dream? I think I might have seen that correlation. My best lucidity seems to occur when I am not pushing to control the dream. Near effortlessness and complete lack of conscious effort seem to produce the most vivid, intense lucids for me. Is there anything to that?

      I am asking this because my last two lucids were really cool but still disappointing. They were light states, but there were a few brief moments of major intensity that resulted from my trying to create them. The intensity was short each time, and in the mean time the dream quality was relatively low in the midst of my trying really hard to control the dream and create intense moments. I plan to try not consciously manipulating my next lucids. It seems that method might produce some really crazy and intense stuff. I know that meditation works best when the mantra repeating is close to effortless. It seems like the lucid dream state would similarly be the deepest when the dreamer is not consciously straining.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Originally posted by dix0n
      just noticed another mistake in the same paragraph lol \"claping\" = \"clapping\"
      Thank you!

      Originally posted by Universal Mind
      Does straining/stressing too much to control a dream reduce the realism/intensity of the dream? *I think I might have seen that correlation. *My best lucidity seems to occur when I am not pushing to control the dream. *Near effortlessness and complete lack of conscious effort seem to produce the most vivid, intense lucids for me. *Is there anything to that?
      Thank you for your comment. I consent to your opinion. When I tried to control my dream too much, it used to be unstable. But I think that has not so much things to do with this. The methods on this tutorial are not stimulating but stabilizing dreams by concentrate on your senses of dream that are given to you. When your dream quality is getting worse, you can improve that and stablize your dream again through the ways.
      Please excuse my poor grammer.

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      Originally posted by dreamy

      Thank you for your comment. I consent to your opinion. When I tried to control my dream too much, it used to be unstable. But I think that has not so much things to do with this. The methods on this tutorial are not stimulating but stabilizing dreams by concentrate on your senses of dream that are given to you. When your dream quality is getting worse, you can improve that and stablize your dream again through the ways.
      Please excuse my poor grammer. *

      Thanks. The kind of stabilizing you are talking about is increasing realism, so I am asking how much effort should be put into doing whatever in order to increase the realism. Should there be a near effortlessness aspect to it?
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      I read an account where a dreamer experiemented with various math exercises while lucid, and subsequently the dream gained an intense realism, so much that the dreamer became afraid he'd gone too far and wouldn't wake up.

      Obviously he did. Haven't tried this myself but will when I gain a higher degree of lucidity.

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      What often happens to me is that everything is blurry, but I can concentrate on small things.
      Life is but a dream....

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      Originally posted by Aleph
      I read an account where a dreamer experiemented with various math exercises while lucid, and subsequently the dream gained an intense realism, so much that the dreamer became afraid he'd gone too far and wouldn't wake up. *

      Obviously he did. *Haven't tried this myself but will when I gain a higher degree of lucidity.
      last night i decided to verify that persons claims... math is easy to do in LDs but it didnt help realism whatsoever (i did algebra in my head) my advice is it to examine your hands very very closely like he said (your palms) every time to LD starts to slip and usually it holds it longer
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      How to Increase Realism in a Lucid Dream

      I have read about this technique in other sources, but the one I can reference is Carlos Castaneda’s book - Art of Dreaming

      "...The dreaming attention comes from behind the roof of the mouth. Feel in dreaming that you are pressing the roof of your mouth with the tip of your tongue...."

      http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/donjuan9.html

      I have tried this technique and found that it increases one’s dream realism and lucidity. I found the dreaming results quite eerie when observed using this technique . Anyone care to give this a try?
      My experience is a very stable dream world – objects in the scenery would not change or shift into other things when stared at directly for a long period of time. Clarity was increased too.

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      A good concise list.

      Regarding "spinning", though, many people find that it substantially changes the Dream Scene... when you come out of the Spin, you are somewhere else. "Flying" does the same thing, only one has the sense of having left one place and having gone to another. "Spinning" is often too sudden of a change for some people to ever get used to.

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      I heard flying high can make you loze focus and loze lucidy.

      The rest of the tips sound quite usefull. I now understand why looking at your palms, the lines makes the dream clearer, becouse your brain makes it clearer so you can see the lines ^__^
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      thanks for the suggestions all. presently my biggest problem is prolonging, and stablizing my dreams, once i'm lucid.
      i feel really good about tonight, so when i become lucid, i will remember to try focusing on the lines on my hands to increase clarity, and rubbing them if the dream starts to fade (heh, that probably sounds cocky, but ya gotta stay positive ).

      i will have a lucid dream tonight.....i will have a lucid dream tonight...i will....


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      Originally posted by Universal Mind
      Near effortlessness and complete lack of conscious effort seem to produce the most vivid, intense lucids for me. Is there anything to that?
      I completely agree, I was able to stay lucid last night for long periods of time by doing precisely this.

      The dream would get muddy, vision would start to become horrible. I just focused on looking at one particular object until it became completely clear, i didn't care about what was going on in the dream, just let myself be still. I was repeared this whenever i needed to and kept the dream going for well over 20 minutes when my alarm clock put the end to the fun. If it hadn't been for the alarm, I feel i could have gone on for a very long time.

      I also agree with looking at rough objects, you can see alot of detail in them, and by focusing on them, you can bring alot of detail into the dream.

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      I agree with the focus on tactile sensory input, but I'd extend that to simply slowing down long enough to focus on each sense. Similar to an excercise in state awareness.
      Focus on what you see. Then what you hear. What you smell. Taste. Feel.
      It's a strange effect in real life, how things you sort of tune out spring into your consciousness. (and occasionally refuse to leave! (ticking clocks! eek!)) In the dream world, theoretically, focusing on each of your senses should make you more aware of them, and thus, make them more full, more realistic, as your mind is brought to bear on each one. After all, the mind is your dreamscape.

      P.S. Tactile, not tactual.
      Yeah.

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      I did watch my palms and spin for the first time yesterday. And it really works. It's true it increases the colors and the realism of the dream.

      I'm so glad I found this site. You people are great !

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      \"...The dreaming attention comes from behind the roof of the mouth. Feel in dreaming that you are pressing the roof of your mouth with the tip of your tongue....\"

      I have tried this technique and found that it increases one’s dream realism and lucidity. I found the dreaming results quite eerie when observed using this technique Surprised . Anyone care to give this a try?[/b]
      I read his books too. gread read.
      Did anyone els try the tongue thing yet? I'm very curious to know if it works..

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      we see clearly but the dirt remains

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      HMm, maybe this should be a sticky... we don't have any, and this is a frequently asked question
      There's also a tutorial here: http://dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11037

      Edit: The tutorial is fairly comprehensive. Maybe what I should do is make a sticky pointing out the tutorials relating to dream control?
      It is missing the shouting out verbal commands trick though.
      And why can't I moderate the tutorial section? dammit...
      Tips For Newbies | What to do in an LD

      Unless otherwise stated, views expressed in this post are not necessarily representative of the official Dream Views stance. Hell, it's probably not even representative of me.

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      Originally posted by NullAshton
      I think the most effective way of increasing realism, is simply will it to happen.
      I think that is the best way to increase realism.


      But i guess for beginners the best way would be to pay attention to your senses...i think ataraxis made a good tutorial on it.

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      I would just like to point out that this is a very good tutorial and I think it should be moved to the tutorials section

      (I refer noobs to this all the time)
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      Originally posted by NullAshton
      I think the most effective way of increasing realism, is simply will it to happen.
      I agree...but at first those things work well.

      To be honest though dream spinning never really worked for me to increase realism.

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      What really works for me is having a dream friend (for me it's my 13 year old daughter) make things happen that you can't. Focus on detail. Even if it doesn't happen in that dream, it gets clearer in the next dream.

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