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      I have had some lucidity and even dream control, without trying, for years. I think this mainly happened after an aquaintance told me he'd experimented with self hypnosis techniques and also LD and dream control where he could fly and do impossible things at will. This intrigued me. I made feeble attemps at first but gave up, only having success later when I wasn't trying, but only minimally.

      Then I tried recently to go into this in depth after having an LD with a little dream control and then finding this website.

      The problem is that in the past, and even more since experimenting, I have encountered a negative force in my dreams. I have a sleep disorder and sometimes get sleep paralysis. This is very terrifying and I can relate with alien abductees (which are probably just victims of sleep paralysis, though not meaning to get off topic). Now that I understand it, it helps, but can often include really bad physical discomfort. It's horrible.

      Now the scary thing is that I have had SP and LD experiences where I feel like a negative force, sometimes an almost intelligent and possibly evil force, is opposing me. In one case I was floating in a pitch blck zero G environment and suddenly felt something grab me feet and drag me into what I feared was Hell (I used to be very religious, though I am not much now and do not think that this force is demonic in real life, but rather that the force is a dream character demon or devil)

      Other times I am in a dream and feel like the wind is blowing against me, even though there is no wind, almost like a kind of revese magnetism.

      Has anyone else experienced this. Is the negative force an element of the subconscious that resists my attempt at control. Am I at war with myself?

      P.S. I have Manic Depression but do not have delusions in waking life (since being treated) and I have never had experiences or behaviour in real life that was illegal, dangerous, or required in-patient care, so don't think that I am completely off my rocker. It is possible that my illness affects my sleep disorder/dreams but I am fully aware of my condition and am not in real life out of control, nor do I believe that I am actually under demonic influence. It is only when asleep that I feel this way.

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      I have had similar experiences before. As a child Iwould have night terrors, and worse, I could remember them. There would be times where the destrucion of the world was my fault, I felt so miserable and frightened that I would litterally stop breathing in the waking world. This was probably the most "evil" or negative force I have ever felt in my dreams.

      I can also relate to the repelling wind. From what I understand in your post, it reminds me of some dreams where I need to escape something but can't run fast enough. Or when I try to hit someone and my fists just lightly touch my oponent. I am generally in a very low level of lucidity in these dreams and have little or no control over my actions. Sometimes I will use this as a trigger signal to acheive higher lucidity, maybe give that a try.

      As far as the demons are concerned, my dreams are filled with an array of horrible beasties. These used to frighten me, and at times, still can. This is one of my most powerful triggers now to gain lucidity, often time I now confront them face to face and talk. Generally they turn out to be quite nice.

      Also, for that limbo you talked about, check out http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/index.php?...c=40664&hl= . It's all about that part of dreams.
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