Thread: Controlling DCs

I had a lucid last night where I could actually control my friend! It started when we were having a conversation. I said something, then knew what he was gonna say (becase he always says it in waking life) and he said it. I then wondered if I could control his talking. I was suprised that it was extremely easy to do. I just thought about it in my head, then he said it! It was like he was reading my mind. I then went on to making him fly in circles and do all kinds of stuff. I then got bored and turned him into a giant pillow and then I flew off into the sunset on it.

Haha, I love taking control of people, lucid or not it's wonderful to make them have to do things for ya

Originally Posted by Infraredkelp

I then got bored and turned him into a giant pillow and then I flew off into the sunset on it.

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can you make them sing?

*terrible idea cooking..*

Originally Posted by Infraredkelp

I had a lucid last night where I could actually control my friend! It started when we were having a conversation. I said something, then knew what he was gonna say (becase he always says it in waking life) and he said it. I then wondered if I could control his talking. I was suprised that it was extremely easy to do. I just thought about it in my head, then he said it! It was like he was reading my mind. I then went on to making him fly in circles and do all kinds of stuff. I then got bored and turned him into a giant pillow and then I flew off into the sunset on it.

According to Castaneda, there are two basic types of DCs: "phantom" projections of our minds, and "energy-based" independent entities. Sounds like you met up with a phantom projection, which are easy to control, seeing as they're a product of our own psyches. No big deal.

HAHAHA thats pretty funny, I'll have to try it.

I love when my friends are there in my dreams because they act like themselves but at the same time, they do whatever I want them to.

For example, if I'm fighting badguys and we're pinned down, I'll give one friend a gun and tell him to cover me. I'll tell the other one to run out and act like a diversion. They always do it, even if its suicide.

Originally Posted by BadStarr

I love when my friends are there in my dreams because they act like themselves but at the same time, they do whatever I want them to.

I have never actually tried to bring people I really know into a lucid dream.. it just never occurred to me until reading yours and Infraredkelp's posts!

* Clairity adds this to her "things to do while lucid" list.*
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Originally Posted by Oneiro

According to Castaneda, there are two basic types of DCs: "phantom" projections of our minds, and "energy-based" independent entities. Sounds like you met up with a phantom projection, which are easy to control, seeing as they're a product of our own psyches. No big deal.

You can catorgerize them however you want, but they are still in head. You can control anything you want. There is no such thing as an "independant DC" that you cannot control. Unless of course you are very inexperienced.

Originally Posted by Infraredkelp

You can catorgerize them however you want, but they are still in head. You can control anything you want. There is no such thing as an "independant DC" that you cannot control. Unless of course you are very inexperienced.

Well.. I'm very experienced and I tell you that you are wrong. There are plenty of "uncontrollable" DCs. Maybe you need some more experience.

That's the thing with LDing.. just when you think you've got it all sussed, along comes something new which whacks you over the head. "Never say never" is a good phrase that applies to LDing.

All the best.

Originally Posted by Oneiro

Well.. I'm very experienced and I tell you that you are wrong. There are plenty of "uncontrollable" DCs. Maybe you need some more experience.

First of all, I am a natural Lder and have been having LDs my entire life almost every night without even trying to have them, before I even found out about "lucid dreaming". Second of all, how can I be inexperienced when I can control all of my DCs? If there uncontrollable DCs in your dreams, than maybe it is you that needs more experience.

Originally Posted by Oneiro

"Never say never" is a good phrase that applies to LDing.

It looks like your argument totally f*cked up right about there You're absolutely right, everything is possible. Which means you can control all DCs.

I genuflect before your magnificence. Yoiu're obviously a "lucid god". Heh. How old are you? 15?

Originally Posted by Infraredkelp

You can catorgerize them however you want, but they are still in head. You can control anything you want. There is no such thing as an "independant DC" that you cannot control. Unless of course you are very inexperienced.

Either I'm inexperienced, you're wrong or Freddy Kruger is real because I just had an axe wielding psychopath survive my trying to make him vanish and crush him. He also followed me throughout the dream and spoke to me.

It all depends on your mind set at the time. You obviously believe you can't control some dream characters. So obviously you won't be able to. The fact that something does not die when you try to kill it, really has no meaning at all.

I am inexperienced.
But from what you just described, if you CANT do something in your dream, then your obviously not the 'Lucid God'.

Everything is controllable in your dream.
Its all about how lucid you are in your dream.
As described in the 'Dream Levels' Tutorial.

Can some1 explain me the differences between "phantom projection DC" and "energy-based" DC?

Ok, i'm not very experienced with LD, however this matter is getting into the "oogy boogy"/newage aspect of this. If you actually believe that energy beings enter your head and present themselves as DCs in your LDs then that's your opinion, there's no proof of it or against it, it's "oogy boogy" (as mythbusters would say). However, there will always be something that even an experienced LDer cannot control, there are things that you simply can't make your mind do, it's different for every person but there will always be a mental barrier somewhere, and if you think you can truely do "anything" then you're lying because you have never tried "everything", see my point.

Originally Posted by trigotron

Ok, i'm not very experienced with LD, however this matter is getting into the "oogy boogy"/newage aspect of this. If you actually believe that energy beings enter your head and present themselves as DCs in your LDs then that's your opinion, there's no proof of it or against it, it's "oogy boogy" (as mythbusters would say). However, there will always be something that even an experienced LDer cannot control, there are things that you simply can't make your mind do, it's different for every person but there will always be a mental barrier somewhere, and if you think you can truely do "anything" then you're lying because you have never tried "everything", see my point.

Well then I am sure that experienced LD'ers would say they could do anything that you asked them to try then.