Thread: Screaming out doesnt help at all

Hey guys,
in my last 2 or 3 lucids I tried to exercise a higher level of dream control by screaming out stuff like "Clarity now!", or "I want a footbal NOW" or "Dream, please make the scene brighter".

I have read that this works a lot for many people and is a reliable, easy and effective way to get what you want.

However, this doesnt do sh*t for me. Seriously, this isnt changing anything, not even the slightest bit, for me.

Am I doing something wrong here? Is this more like a skill I have to work on? Are there alternative techniques to this?

I would feel kind of dumb abandoning this technique just yet. It seems so incredibly useful, because it could basically be applied to every single aspect of an LD.

Thoughts?

First of all, keep experimenting to find what works for you.
Second, keep researching on the forums, so you may find the solution.
And my suggestion is that instead of "asking the dream" like "please dream do this and that", you should create the things yourself.
Because the dream wouldn't exist if it wasn't for you. You create your dreams.
Just try creating stuff, just as you would create them in your "ordinary awake" imagination.

Oh and the most important is self-confidence. If you don't believe something can happen, or you are not confident enough, then it won't happen.

Oh, and screaming out can be help, like "DREAM, I COMMAND YOU TO STAY VIVID!".
But that's not enough alone. You must have a strong intention behind it, your voice alone doesn't make anything.

Originally Posted by lemmefly

Hey guys,
in my last 2 or 3 lucids I tried to exercise a higher level of dream control by screaming out stuff like "Clarity now!", or "I want a footbal NOW" or "Dream, please make the scene brighter".

this doesnt do sh*t for me.

You will find many suitable alternatives(for stabilizing the dream) in this tutorial.

As for dream control, I personally found it easier in a lucid to use a wand rather than trying to create something out of thin air. It's a lot easier to believe that lucid items/concepts are caused or created by magic than just accepting various dream happenings. This way control is more believable, therefore more feasible(for me).

Thanks for the tip with the wand, I will certainly give it a try. I also thought about using some kind of 'magic' paper, where I can draw on things and make them get real (by burning the paper or w/e).

As for stabilization, I already do the things from the tutorial you linked, like rubbing my hands all the time. It just seems that this always only helps for a couple of seconds or so. Also, my lucids are always semi-dark, I just cant seem to get the scene bright (electric light switches never work). I just think I need to find another way to raise my overall awareness and clarity.

screaming helps me. This night i got a LD that every minute started to fade out. Then i kept screaming CLARITY NOW! and everything became back to normal

Different things work for different people.