Dream archetypes as animals?

[irishcream]

Last night i had this really weird dream...i don't remember much about it, except that one of my Archetypes appeared, but not in the usual form. My most common Archetype is the wise old man, who usually appears in the guise of a man i know pretty well. Except last night he appeared as a white horse. A stallion, not a gelding. Don't ask me how i know that, i just do. I was in a stable, feeding him hay, and trying to comb his mane out. Somehow, i knew it was my wise old man. I felt no fear, i simply asked him 'it is you isn't it?' And this horse shook his head, and whinnied softly into my hand. I was just wondering. Can Archetypes change form?? And in my case, i listen to my Wise Old Man, so i don't think it's a case of him changing to make me pay attention! Also my parrot was in my dream, i was trying to walk past his cage, but he kept trying to nip me with his beak, and someone in the dream said, 'liz, he's not going to let you by till you pay attention.' So i stopped in front of his cage, and using his wings, my parrot forced his way between the bars of his cage, coming to sit on my shoulder and nibble my ear. I know this should probably be in interpretation, i might post it there too, save this getting moved.

[Tsen]

Those sound like some very interesting dreams. As for the old man appearing as a horse, there's a few possible reasons, and only you can really know which one's right. It may be that because you felt that the horse might have been the old man that the horse turned out to be the old man. It may also be that there is something important involving a horse (symbollic or otherwise) in your life right now that needs your attention. I'd simply try asking the old man in your dreams the next time you see him why he was a horse, and if he could explain it. If he can't, then it probably wasn't of consequence.

[irishcream]

that's a good point...i shouldn't have any trouble meeting up with him in my dreams, he's a regular visitor, although whether my subconscious is going to remember the fact that i need to ask him why he was a horse is another matter! i found this...and i think the bit about the 'Wild forces' could be my temper, or my spirituality, or both! Also the horse being white symbolises purity...the friendship i have with this person is very like that...very deep i think, but there's nothing funny going on. Horse To see a horse in your dream, represents a strong, physical energy. You need to tame the wild forces. If the horse is white, then it signifies purity, prosperity and good fortunes.[/b]

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by irishcream Last night i had this really weird dream...i don't remember much about it, except that one of my Archetypes appeared, but not in the usual form. My most common Archetype is the wise old man, who usually appears in the guise of a man i know pretty well. Except last night he appeared as a white horse. A stallion, not a gelding. Don't ask me how i know that, i just do. I was in a stable, feeding him hay, and trying to comb his mane out. Somehow, i knew it was my wise old man. I felt no fear, i simply asked him 'it is you isn't it?' And this horse shook his head, and whinnied softly into my hand. I was just wondering. Can Archetypes change form?? And in my case, i listen to my Wise Old Man, so i don't think it's a case of him changing to make me pay attention! Also my parrot was in my dream, i was trying to walk past his cage, but he kept trying to nip me with his beak, and someone in the dream said, 'liz, he's not going to let you by till you pay attention.' So i stopped in front of his cage, and using his wings, my parrot forced his way between the bars of his cage, coming to sit on my shoulder and nibble my ear. I know this should probably be in interpretation, i might post it there too, save this getting moved. Actually The Horse Archetype is a separate Archetype. Your recognition of The Horse as the Wise Old Man was perhaps wrong as a specific particular, but only as far as language is concerned... you DID recognize The Horse as integral to your Spiritual Path, just as the Wise Old Man is a part of your Higher Dynamics. You are going to have to ride this Horse. Years ago I had a complete Dream Series with the Dream Horse. I started in a large field where there was a County Fair going on and one of the attractions was "Ride the Wild Stallion". People were lined up. This large spiritued White Horse was throwing people into the air and then returning to the line to throw somemore people. I honestly could not see what people saw in such treatment, but I was lined up also. Perhaps it was a Dare. Anyway, my turn came and I knew enough about riding to keep my knees flexed and match the rise and fall of the gallop with the flexing of my legs. The Horse noticed and appreciated my effort to ride upon him correctly. So off we went for a good gallop. He stopped at a sandwiche shop and asked me to get a ham sandwidch. The Old Lady looked slow and I was concerned, but both the Horse and the Old Lady told me that though the Horse was Willful and Powerful, it could be patient and I had no need to worry. when the sandwiche was ready, the horse asked me to share it with him. Then the dream broke away to my father smoking a pipe in an armchair, ready to be philosophical and insightful... something of a Dream Archetype itself. He told me that to ride the Horse one must understand the Horse and to understand the Horse one had to know its true essence. And what is that? THE HORSE IS REALLY A PIG. To understand the Horse, you must realize it is essentially just a big pig with a saddle. So what is the Horse Archetype. The Horse is your Will. The Horse is the Motive Power you must use in your Life to arrive at your Spiritual Goal. It sounds like you have a good one. But you need to saddle it, and ride it. I had a series of dreams of my Horse. Finally I was able to ride him with great precision and discipline. Later ... years later... the Horse was still with me, but rolling in clover and getting fat while I soaked my feet in a pretty little pond in a glade. The Wise Old Man told us to get moving.... and so I started writing on line. I'd be interesting to know how many other people have encountered their Horse Archetype. It may be a rather advanced symbol. Oh, and regarding Animal Archetypes... has anybody bumped into any Snakes?

[irishcream]

Actually The Horse Archetype is a separate Archetype. Your recognition of The Horse as the Wise Old Man was perhaps wrong as a specific particular, but only as far as language is concerned... you DID recognize The Horse as integral to your Spiritual Path, just as the Wise Old Man is a part of your Higher Dynamics.[/b] so i have another archetype to work with...it's not the first time i've dreamed of horses...they're usually white...i had a dream many years ago of riding a white stallion, and for the life of me he wouldn't go where i wanted! You are going to have to ride this Horse. Years ago I had a complete Dream Series with the Dream Horse. I started in a large field where there was a County Fair going on and one of the attractions was \"Ride the Wild Stallion\". People were lined up. This large spiritued White Horse was throwing people into the air and then returning to the line to throw somemore people. I honestly could not see what people saw in such treatment, but I was lined up also. Perhaps it was a Dare. Anyway, my turn came and I knew enough about riding to keep my knees flexed and match the rise and fall of the gallop with the flexing of my legs. The Horse noticed and appreciated my effort to ride upon him correctly. So off we went for a good gallop. He stopped at a sandwiche shop and asked me to get a ham sandwidch. The Old Lady looked slow and I was concerned, but both the Horse and the Old Lady told me that though the Horse was Willful and Powerful, it could be patient and I had no need to worry. when the sandwiche was ready, the horse asked me to share it with him. Then the dream broke away to my father smoking a pipe in an armchair, ready to be philosophical and insightful... something of a Dream Archetype itself. He told me that to ride the Horse one must understand the Horse and to understand the Horse one had to know its true essence. And what is that? THE HORSE IS REALLY A PIG. To understand the Horse, you must realize it is essentially just a big pig with a saddle. So what is the Horse Archetype. The Horse is your Will. The Horse is the Motive Power you must use in your Life to arrive at your Spiritual Goal. It sounds like you have a good one. But you need to saddle it, and ride it.[/b] Well, i'm stubborn. And i don't give in easy, and once i've set my mind on something, not much will turn me from it. How do i saddle it then? and how do i ride it? Obviously that's a metaphor...so there's something i need to be doing...i just need to work out what it is. I'd be interesting to know how many other people have encountered their Horse Archetype. It may be a rather advanced symbol.[/b] do you mean in terms of dreaming? if that's the case, then in some respects, i've come to it rather young, at only 21... Oh, and regarding Animal Archetypes... has anybody bumped into any Snakes?[/b] Regarding snakes...i bumped into those as a child...a whole pit of them...all writhing and knotted. Needless to say it was a nightmare. Haven't encountered them since.