Dream Theme: I'm always a girl!

[Orpheus]

((I'm still working on getting lucid... this is just a dream-related post)) This is odd mainly because I am a 15-year-old boy. When most people dream, they are themselves, right? Well... I'm usually a girl. I don't know what this means at all, but I would very much appreciate inight.

[Yume]

Maybe it shows are in touch with your feminine side. Maybe you are very sensitive and listen well. I bet you have many qualities that are considered feminine.

[Orpheus]

Originally posted by Yume I bet you have many qualities that are considered feminine. Like what?

[Yume]

Originally posted by Orpheus Like what? * Maybe that you are sensitive and really have a softer emotional side to yourself that you express often. Feminine attributes are usually of the softer side of human qualities unlike masculine qualities. Maybe you are more compassionate than others. You have a kindness and gentleness to you. Men and women have both masculine and feminine qualities. Though you are male you have a softer side to you.

[A Lost Soul]

I agree with Yume. Appearing as a girl when you are in reality a boy isn’t a bad thing at all. In fact, I think it’s a good thing. To repeat what Yume said, I think it just means that you’re more in tune with the more ‘feminine’ aspects of your soul. Trust me, that is a very good thing.

[Syndash]

I wouldn't worry about it Orpheus. I once had a dream I was a 45 year old man trying to jump onto a moving train. I'm a 26 year old woman and the thought of doing something that crazy in real life has never crossed my mind.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by Orpheus ((I'm still working on getting lucid... this is just a dream-related post)) This is odd mainly because I am a 15-year-old boy. When most people dream, they are themselves, right? Well... I'm usually a girl. I don't know what this means at all, but I would very much appreciate inight. Every once in awhile we are given a gift of some other Entities Memory Files -- as we play that Memory File back, it seems to us that we are the person who had that memory, and so it is that sometimes we have dreams of being a completely different person. We are just experiencing someone elses memory for moment --a gift of another person's experence and perspective. But to consistently have a dream that one is a person of the opposite sex....? Now, I once had a dream in which I walked past a mirror and saw myself as a young lady. I was startled. But it was a mirror image. It was showing me a complement -- an opposite and an equal, to myself. but to consistently dream of being in a body image of the opposite sex. Several years ago I met a man who was already in his late thirties when he decided to have a sex change operation. I told him, your pretty years are almost over, and this surgery is expensive and dangerous, and for what? At your age, wouldn't hormone shots and woman's attire be sufficient to be who you wish to be? It was important to him and so he piled his life-savings into a sex change operation. God bless him. he knew what he wanted. But if a young person would feel the same way, it would make double the sense. While the young person is still growing, there is a chance that the hormones could actually have an effect in feminizing the pelvic bone structures, and slow down the onset of masculine secondary sexual characteristics such as heavy bone structures and adams apples. Ask yourself whether you would not be happier as a Lady.

[Mickeys_Elbow]

Originally posted by Leo Volont Ask yourself whether you would not be happier as a Lady. Wow, I really don't think it's that extreme. It's not very uncommon to have dreams of being other things. Personally I've been all animal, vegetable, mineral, and both genders but have no waking urge to be anything but what I am. I'm sure it just has something to do with what's been on your mind, and once you figure it out or get through it somehow it will go away. Just don't worry about it, I'm sure you'll be fine.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by Mickeys_Elbow Wow, I really don't think it's that extreme. It's not very uncommon to have dreams of being other things. Personally I've been all animal, vegetable, mineral, and both genders but have no waking urge to be anything but what I am. I'm sure it just has something to do with what's been on your mind, and once you figure it out or get through it somehow it will go away. Just don't worry about it, I'm sure you'll be fine. Yes, I've conceded that one may be gifted with other perspectives from entities giving us Memory packets. But this young man is chronically and continuously in the Body Image of a young lady. Are we all to pretend that we should not ask the obvious. As I pointed out, these would be the best years for him to do something about becoming a her. Every minute that goes by his brows become more dense of bone and his adams apple more pronounced, his voice deeper, his shoe size larger. If he is in all reality a nice young lady in the body of a reluctant boy, then this would be the time -- the best time -- to do something about it.

[Mickeys_Elbow]

I just don't believe that an unnatural act is the solution to a completely natural phenomenon. But, yes, sometimes the obvious needs to be pointed out...

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by Mickeys_Elbow I just don't believe that an unnatural act is the solution to a completely natural phenomenon. But, yes, sometimes the obvious needs to be pointed out... People have 'natural' tumors which they have to extract by surgery. If the young man is psychologically really a young lady, than we can only assume that something pathological happened during the body's development, roughly equivalent to there having been a tumor. Such a condition ought to be corrected if it can be. And this is not just theory. I am as stodgy as the next person, or perhaps even more, but there have simply been too many instances of this kind of thing, and I have grown to sympathize with those who demand that their Body Image correspond to their Sexual Identity. That is what would be 'natural'. But it is all quite a moot point until our young friend clarify himself. It may be expecting more than we could hope for. He is 15 years old and is to decide upon exactly what his sexual identity is. It is likely that he would be confused. Can we expect that he even knows the distinctions between what is Male and what is Female. It is not exactly entirely Black and White. Indeed, it would be healthy if we were all alittle bit of both. It may be perhaps too overindulgent to overemphasize the physical. Should Body Image take on such priorities. So many have said "yes" to that question, that I cannot dismiss them. But I also would also understand if a young man could accept a young man's body, even if in every psychologically stereotypical way he was female. Our body is impermanent, but our Soul is timeless. What does the Body matter if the Soul is Perfect?

[zwishenzug]

Good topic. First, discovering one's sexual orientation developes in adolescence NOT gender identity. Second, perceiving one's self as feminine would probably not be manifested in a dream as having the physiology of a woman, rather the emotional content would be different. What I'd like to know, is what is the average emotional content of these dreams? Do you feel that your dream emotions are similar to women's emotions in reality? Does it even make you uncomfortable? What would you ask someone else who dreamt in the opposite sex?

[TheUnknown]

hmm, found this interesting, as I have been a women a few times in my dreams. i wanted to bring up a suggestion of past lives. Is it possible to have been a woman in a past life if you are a man in this one? I've always wondered if past lives did exist, or perhaps if I'm just picking up on others current lives. I've had a history of taking over DC's and becoming their identity in dreams. To extend that even further, i've been able to bilocate, and even trilocate, sometimes in even more places in my dreams.. I've mastered the ability to be more then what I am and be able to see through more then just one set of eyes. For me, its whether I am getting these "Memory Files" as referenced earlier, or is it a history of my spirtitual self from another life. I've also had other male identies as well, from other time periods then my own that have become what I am in my dreams. The only thing I can suggest is the fact that I am quite wearied in this life, as it feels like i've been here for MUCH longer then the 17 years I have seen in this life. Memory flashbacks, different dream identities have all pointed me to the conclusion that i've had previous lives.

[zwishenzug]

That's really interesting about seeing through more than one set of eyes. As a psychologist in training, I am constantly seeking to have better empathetic reactions. What a cool way to practice empathy--looking out someone else's eyes. Since I don't personally believe in past-lives, I look to a different theory explaining experiencing multiple identities in dreams. Actually a set of theories. Our identities are composed of many different pieces. In different situations, different part of our selves come out. Like a person with multiple personalities. In dreams we shift and recombine the various parts of our identities and sometimes that is manifested in a way that is so very different from our waking identities that we seem to be different people. People with multiple personalites describe switching between personalities as flexing a loaf of bread that is connected at the bottom. As the apex of the flexed loaf moves, different personalities come out and control behavior. This does not really pertain to what you're talking about, but I thought ya'll might find it interesting.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by TheUnknown hmm, found this interesting, as I have been a women a few times in my dreams. i wanted to bring up a suggestion of past lives. Is it possible to have been a woman in a past life if you are a man in this one? . Most notions of Past Life Experience can be explained by supposing that Sympathetic Entities had gifted us with Memory Packets from their own Past Lives, which, when replayed, give us the First Person experience from that past life. The First Person experience naturally lulls us into thinking it is our own Past Life, when in fact the memory was simply a gift -- a 'book' one borrowed to read -- an autobiography with which we overly identify. But, yes, people who have these Past Life Memory Gifts have them from Entities of both sexes.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by zwishenzug People with multiple personalites describe switching between personalities as flexing a loaf of bread that is connected at the bottom. As the apex of the flexed loaf moves, different personalities come out and control behavior. This does not really pertain to what you're talking about, but I thought ya'll might find it interesting. Good! Its wonderful to know these pure instances of subjective experience. Is this the only way they have described this surfacing of new dominant personalities? If it seemed universal that they always used the Loaf of Bread Metaphor, it would be significant as the Loaf of Bread is a significant Religious Symbol -- the Bread being the Body of the Cosmic Christ. That the Bread is sliced... hmmmmmm... that may indicate a failure of Integration, or perhaps the Bread is supposed to be sliced. But this puts the question to you as a Professional -- can multiple personality syndrome be construed as healthy. It was my uneducated understanding that such things were nearly always considered pathological. Yet one could imagine a Body having a Team of Personalities and a Coach, and for every Play of the Day the Coach send in the most appropriate Player, always putting forward the best Persona for each task in life. But, yes, it would require the coordination of one empowered authority -- the Coach -- in order that the separate personas do not go into conflict and ravage the person's life.