The storm is coming

[john42588]

Here's the first 4 out of 17 I've had. If anyone wants to hear more, let me know. I'm pretty set on what they mean, but I'd like to hear your opinions. I was not a christian until I had these first few dreams. After I became a christian, I had to make a choice. Now I have to do something so important I can't tell my own family where I am going, or what I am doing. 1) I was in Jerusalem. I ran out of the building I was in and heard a radio broadcast that Jerusalem was being destroyed. I saw buildings on fire and cars driving out of control, pure chaos. I had a vision of Giants hitting the buildings. I ran to the outskirts of town, and saw this monument, with people worshiping around it. It was blocks stacked on top of each other, gradually getting smaller in number, like a crude pyramid. There was one symbol I recognized, an eye on the top block. Jesus walked up and stood beside me. He said to me, "Look in Acts and John." I ran back into the desolate city and got a bible, then came back and started going through it. I turned around and saw Jesus riding off into the horizon. (If you didn't know, it says in John that when Jerusalem was destroyed, the rapture would follow soon after. In Acts, It talks about the 7 chosen to serve, one being named Stephen, like me) 2) I was in a war-torn city; I seemed to be caught in the middle of a gunfight between two armies. I was in the building with American Soldiers, and then a grenade flew in, and I dove out just as it blew up; the other soldiers killed. I was backed into a corner by a creature that could have only come from Hell. Then another came up, and they started to fight over me, so I ran off towards the woods. On my way I ran through the area where the Americans were keeping the dead. They were on tables, thousands of them. I ran into the woods and saw rivers of ice and polar animals, signifying some complications regarding the polar ice caps. 3) I was going to heaven in the rapture. It's difficult to describe this. First off, everything is dark blue, or black. I was going away from Earth, and towards this portal of light in space. People all around me were flying up towards the light. This was the rapture. I was going, and I looked up and saw Jesus in the portal, and he said to me, pointing towards earth, "Don't forget the Blind." I turned to see millions of sad faces on earth, and I went back to earth. (This was when I knew I wouldn't be going in the rapture, and I would be staying to help people.) 4) I ran out of my house and saw that my neighbors’ trees and yard was on fire. I asked what happened, and he said he didn't know. I looked up and saw thousands of balls of fire falling, hitting and blowing up everywhere. It seemed to catch all the grass and trees on fire. (There is a judgment in revelation where 13 of the greens of the earth is burned up by fireballs.)

[Distant Clone]

Whoa! That first dream strikes really close to the dream I had just last night. I just finished describing it here. Specifically that the world was coming to an end, and that there was a pyramid in the underground tunnel of safety. How long ago was dream 1? Last night I also had a dream of being consumed by a fire. Also quite a while back, I had a dream conveying a similar feeling. There was a desolate field under a dark stormy sky. It was inhabited by two sides of monsters, in a Braveheart style confrontation. They came running from their end, and my fellow comrades ran toward them from ours. I was an ogre and stood on a hill, watching the fight unfold. Then I decide to jump into the action to be crushed by a boulder. I respawned on the far end and was struck by lightning. I was charged up and had a long run back to the other side of the battlefield. My power up wore off just before I could club anybody. Then I noticed a door in the side of the hill. The concrete in front of the door opened up to reveal a ramp to a door underneath the decoy. Inside was a goverment agent and an alien. We were conversing and the alien defended me while telling the goverment man for "it's your fault for f*cking things up". Since you mentioned your religion of choice, I'll say this: I believe in God, but I stand a better chance finding God on my own rather than with religion. By the way, welcome to the forum, john.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by john42588 1) I was in Jerusalem. I ran out of the building I was in and heard a radio broadcast that Jerusalem was being destroyed. I saw buildings on fire and cars driving out of control, pure chaos. I had a vision of Giants hitting the buildings. I ran to the outskirts of town, and saw this monument, with people worshiping around it. It was blocks stacked on top of each other, gradually getting smaller in number, like a crude pyramid. There was one symbol I recognized, an eye on the top block. Jesus walked up and stood beside me. He said to me, \"Look in Acts and John.\" I ran back into the desolate city and got a bible, then came back and started going through it. I turned around and saw Jesus riding off into the horizon. (If you didn't know, it says in John that when Jerusalem was destroyed, the rapture would follow soon after. In Acts, It talks about the 7 chosen to serve, one being named Stephen, like me) Jerusalem was destroyed. If there was a Rapture, then it was what was responsible for the virtually complete dissappearance of the Messianic Judaism which Christ had taught. The True Church disappeared and what we had left was the Gentile Blasphemacy established by Paul the Antichrist. Jerusalem would be destroyed several times. In 70 A.D. it was completely destroyed, but then over the next 60 years it was rebuilt somewhat only to be destroyed again. But the damage was done in 70 A. D. and when we can quote Christ as saying that the End would come within a generation, that was what He was speaking of. Regarding the significance of "John" and "Acts" in reference to the people worshipping a crude heep of stones... well we can see that The Gospel of John is the most Greek of the Gospels with the most Paulist Doctrines, and the Book of Acts frankly aims at glorifying Paul above the True Apostles, and advancing Peter only in so much as the Paulists required some endorcement of of Paul by the Messianic Leadership and so the fiction was established that Peter supported Paul's entry into the Church. Christ in your Dream call this all just so much false worship. It is clear that the Book of Acts must be a conterfeit. Simply refer to chapter 15 which tells us that a Franchise Letter was issued to Paul that established a Gentile Church upon completely different regulations then what was recognized by the Messianic Jews. We know this is not true, because we have no other reference to such an important document in all of Church History. We have 14 Letters of paul, so it should not be difficult to expect that the Document Establishing a Separate Gentile Church, if it ever existed, should have been retained, or at least quoted in detail. Oh, and regarding your Rejection from the Rapture. You were sent back down to be with the other blind people. Your name is Stephen. You should realize that both Peter and Paul, as described in Acts are your enemies. Remember how Stephen was elected? Peter had begun murdering people over money, and so the Congregations took to the streets and demanded a new Leadership. Stephen was elected to replace Peter and the Book of Acts even presents his acceptance speech. But Paul and a group of thugs and gangsters ambush Stephen and murder him. With his rival out of the way, Peter again takes charge of the Congregation. Paul, to collect on the favor he did for Peter is able to join the Church -- murder being his recommendation to membership. This should clearly indicate the first corruptions in the Early Church. We can see in the Gospels that Peter was always presented as something of a moral bungler, somebody whom we would be silly to expect anything special of. That he would partner up with Paul to kill Stephen is about what we could suppose of him, no longer having the influence of Christ to keep him within moral bounds. Anyway, are you beginning to understand why you were returned to Earth for your blindness. All of these Truths have been in the Bible all this while, and you never discerned the slightest trace of any of it.

[john42588]

There's 4 more. Religion found me. I think that christianity for the most part is flawed and I don't like calling myself a christian for what it means. Christians are selfish and hypocritical and split themselves up and damn one another. I had the first dream about 5 years ago. It's lead me to the conclusion that the end of the age wil begin in 2006 and the finale will be in 2012. 5) I was on an Island with other people. This was post rapture. We thought we were safe, but then I looked to the horizon and saw battleships coming. Then I heard the sound of incoming shells. I told everyone to take cover. The shells started to hit, people and dirt were flying everywhere. I was the only one who survived. Some of the troops came ashore and lit a bonfire to celebrate. The Antichrist was with them, and yes I saw him. I won't tell you what he looks like, that's for me. I was hiding, when a soldier approached me and told me that if I killed the Antichrists' son, he wouldn't turn me in. So I saw his son and shot him, and everyone heard the shot. They started chasing me, and I was able to fight them off. I saw some of my friends come to shore on a boat, and I got in and got away. (I won't tell what the antichrist looks like because it is not my place to do so. People must recognize him their self.) 6) I was at my old house, which was on a big hill. It was me, my brother, and my friend standing out by my dad's truck. The phone inside it rang, and my brother answered it. He hung it up and said, "All they said was "Hell is coming"." I grabbed 3 box cutters, which seemed to be the only weapons available, and handed them out. We looked towards the driveway and saw a blue truck coming up the driveway, the inside was pitch black, we couldn't see inside. 7) This is my dream about purgatory. It is sort of difficult to understand. There was blast, and my father and I were faced with Death. He stood before us. He looked just like you think he would, dark and hooded. He said something, and then we appeared on a beach. From the water, about 40 feet, the sand stopped, and there were rocks. The beach was separated into sections, which were separated by rocks about 3 feet in diameter (just guessing). Behind the rocks were volcanoes and death and destruction. In each section of the beach there were benches, about 20 per section (again, guessing). People were sitting, staring at the light over the water. It was not the sun; it was just this very comforting light. I was standing, and my father was sitting, leaving me to believe that he died, and I got a glimpse. There may have been someone standing next to me, could have been Death. Someone in about the 7th row turned and looked back and said something, I wish I could remember who they were and what they said. (I believe what I saw was purgatory. All those people were just sitting there, staring at that light, waiting for Christ's return.) 8) My brother, my sister, and I were running from someone. I don't know who. We came to the white house, the whole area around was deserted. Inside it seemed as though they left in a hurry. We went into the president’s office, there were cups and paper scattered on the floor. We went into the secret compartment of the presidents' to hide. But they found us. So we ran to an abandoned city, there were only the skeletons of buildings. We found one that wasn't completely destroyed, so we went in. I walked up to a wall and hit the wall with my fist. And a door opened and some starved looking people greeted us in the doorway. It was some sort of small fallout shelter. We stayed there a while; I watched the others watch this small black-and-white television. Then they found us. So we ran into a neighborhood and got separated. The neighborhood was being attacked by foot soldiers. I ran into one house and killed a soldier that was trying to kill a little boy. I saved the boy, then ran outside into a cornfield, and kept running through the corn field. I came to the end of it, and there was sort of open desert, and there were army jeeps and vehicles trying to run over me. The part I don’t understand is that there was this one woman. She was at the Whitehouse when we were found, and the bunker, and she was watching in the neighborhood, and she was in one of the army vehicles. I don’t know who she is, and I don’t recognize her. She had a very evil feeling of her.

[Leo Volont]

Well, your dreams are all within a Religious Context, but it is difficult to determine what side you are on. Perhaps you should help us all out by describing what constitutes your sense of moral perfection... both Demons and Angels have ideals that they wage war over, and they each believe very strongly, but there ideas are significantly different. Give us a hint of what you believe in, and then we can determine whether you are of the Light or of the Darkness.

[john42588]

There's 4 more. I am not of darkness. I believe in God and Jesus and that Christ died on the cross for my sins. I just think that christians aren't what they should be. People who wear crosses commit murders and break the third commandment, making it no more than a fashion statement. Christians are just very quick to damn others, but they never think that they themselves are doing something wrong. I guess I'm just ticked at the way christianity is run today. It could be a lot better. I think it's rediculous that movies like "The Da Vinci code" and "The Beast 666" should be able to be made. I hope this elaborated on my views. I"m not sure I followed you completely, if you could help me understand better, I'd be very appreciative. I think I have the overall concept. thanks 9) This dream is very hard to explain. I believe first I was in line for something. I didn't know what. The closer I got to the front, the more I realized what the line was for. They were issuing chips to be implanted into people's hands (The Mark of the Beast). I somehow knew that a friend of mine was outside, and I signaled for him to shut down the power. He did, and they delayed the process for a day. I escaped somehow, and then found this bus driving down the road. It turns out it was full of men who were repeatedly raping this young girl. I grabbed one of their guns and emptied the clip at them. I managed to kill about 4 of them, and then I ran out of the bus. I was chased by some Fat man. I stabbed him repeatedly, but it had no effect on him. He seemed to ooze some silicon substance. They then took me to some secret building. The fat man was showing me around, and made sure that I saw this sign with their name on it. The name of their organization was O.C.O.M. I’m not sure what they did, but I believe they were trying to scientifically disprove the Bible. All I know is that it had something to do with the Bible and proving something. It was like a science fair, they had many booths. The booth we stopped at had a man's body on it, with someone dissecting the brain. The sign with O.C.O.M. had writing underneath it, but I couldn't make it out. 10) I prayed before I went to sleep for God to help me know the truth about some things I was having trouble with. I dreamt that night that Jesus came to me. We were looking at something, some portal or something. I said "Can you make it where I have enough time to ask all my questions?" He smiled, and nodded. I remember asking questions and receiving answers, but I don't remember what they were. Maybe that means something. I just know that to this day, when I think of that smile, it makes me smile. 11) I believe this dream to be very symbolic. I had been captured by the Antichrist. In this dream he was portrayed as a dark hooded figure, but I knew it was him. At the start, he had me nailed to something wooden; it could have been a cross. However, I was face down, and my arms were not stretched out, they were nailed about a foot away from my face. He was doing something to my back; I'm not sure what exactly. All I know is that it was immensely painful. Then he pulled me off the object to talk to me. I was in heavy pain; I remember seeing that I now had holes in my hands. He repeatedly told me that he would torture me for 12 more days, and then crucify me. I somehow was able to call someone, I don't remember who. I told them "He's going to crucify me in 12 days!" I repeated it over and over. I remember thinking to myself "How am I going to last 12 more days?" Then he nailed me down again. He said if I answered his questions wrong, he would freeze off one of my fingers for every wrong answer. Then I answered one correctly, and woke up. 12) I was at my house, among friends, fighting some other armed individuals. They seemed to be highly trained, with the government perhaps. We were fighting them with guns, in the yard and in the house. It seemed my mission was to protect this child. I kept the child with me, protecting him from harm. He never said anything, just stared at me, expecting me to save him. He had no worries it seemed, just a very peaceful sense about him. He was a little older than a toddler, I believe. After a while of fighting, my friends betrayed me and began fighting me as well. I found myself fighting numerous people by myself, while protecting this child. Yet I was able to fight them off and get this child to some area where he was safe. He was going to be transported to safety, or something along those lines. I kneeled before him, and I asked "Are you really Christ?" He just stared at me, but I had this overwhelming feeling of relief. I cried, because I knew it was Him. I fell to the ground in tears.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by john42588 There's 4 more. I am not of darkness. I believe in God and Jesus and that Christ died on the cross for my sins. I just think that christians aren't what they should be. People who wear crosses commit murders and break the third commandment, making it no more than a fashion statement. Christians are just very quick to damn others, but they never think that they themselves are doing something wrong. I guess I'm just ticked at the way christianity is run today. It could be a lot better. I think it's rediculous that movies like \"The Da Vinci code\" and \"The Beast 666\" should be able to be made. I hope this elaborated on my views. I\"m not sure I followed you completely, if you could help me understand better, I'd be very appreciative. I think I have the overall concept. thanks Well, it is reassuring that you have such outrage over the moral abuses that you see around you, which indicates that your heart is in the right place, but you have little sense to know that the very doctrine you advocate -- that by the Murder of Christ all Sins are forgiven -- is the exact cause of the problem you complain of. Why indeed should any such 'Christian' behave his or her self? Indeed, Paul, the founder of that Doctrine explicitly states that by the Death of Christ the Law is made obsolete. Here you are complaining that nobody follows commandments anymore, when you are explicitly told to ignore them. The Protestant Doctrine of "Faith Alone" means exactly that, that by Faith you are 'saved' and that righteousness and following commandments have nothing to do with it. Then what do you expect. Paul threw out the Law. Paul threw out Works. Paul insists all Sins are Forgiven. Paul goes on to declare that Election of God is entirely independent of moral concerns -- moral choice or even Religious Belief have no bearing at all, since God either choose you for Heaven or damned you to Hell in His original plan which absolutely nothing can change. In such a context, what would be the purpose of agonizing over sins that won't be counted anyway? So, you see, it is the very doctrine that you believe that is responsible for the moral deficiencies you complain of. And those Doctrines come from Paul and not from Christ. Read chapters 5 through 7 of Mathew, the Sermon of the Mount, and you will find no Doctrine of Salvation by Murder, no Free Sin, no abandonment of the Law, no Predestination and Automatic Election. No. You will find a Teaching exhorting Righteousness and warning of a Judgment. Paul was wrong. Christ warned of Paul three different ways. "A Wolf will come in Sheep's Clothing". "There will be Tares in the Wheat". "There will be a Wide Way that leads to Destruction". The Protestant Churches especially, but elements of Catholicism have incorporated The Wolf, The Tares, and the Wide Way, since Paul is responsible for a great deal of Catholic Doctrine and all of Protestant Doctrine which thoroughly ignores anything Christ ever said... which is why they have their "Word of God" Doctrine which specifies that all of the Bible is the Word of God, effectively promoting Paul to Equal Status with Christ, to enable them to disregard Christ in the Sermon of the Mount for the easier Doctrines from Romans and Corintheans. The last Prophet of the Jewish Dispensation, Simeon, in the 2nd Chapter of Luke, looks into the Future and tells us that this Jesus will be contradicted. Not that He would found a great new Religion. Not that He would die for Sins. The outstanding and salient fact which this last of the Prophets saw was that the Teachings of Christ would be swept away by a Contradiction that would win out over the Truth. He went on to say that this Insult against Her Son would effectively stab the Mother through Her Heart. Its all there in front of us in black and white. We have the Teachings of Christ, and then we are presented with the Contradiction. We have the Truth followed by The Wolf, The Tares, and the Wide Way of Destruction. And still nearly everybody chooses exactly that which Christ warns us against. Just as you do. So, what is Morality. Refer to Christ. It is not in believing that we can Sin all we want as you believe (for what else can it mean to believe in the Forgiveness of Sin). It means the Golden Rule and loving one's neighbor. This enjoins us to see the Greater Community as our Moral Responsibility, to set aside Ego for the good of the Collective, to see ourselves as only a part of the Whole. That is something Protestants explicitly teach against, as they insist upon the Doctrine, which is found nowhere in the Bible, of "Personal Salvation" and "Personal Relationship with Christ". Such thinking glorifies the Individual and focusses on Self instead upon God or Neighbor, and in so doing is against the premises of a Christ-taught Morality.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by john42588 ... I dreamt that night that Jesus came to me. We were looking at something, some portal or something. I said \"Can you make it where I have enough time to ask all my questions?\" He smiled, and nodded. I remember asking questions and receiving answers, but I don't remember what they were. Maybe that means something. I just know that to this day, when I think of that smile, it makes me smile.... . Yeah, the beatific Smile. I once has a dream in which I was introduced to a young newer edition Cosmic Christ, where a voice from Heaven was singing His praises. And He approached me and smiled with a powerful and radiating love and joy. Yes, one never forgets that.

[john42588]

13 may not be significant. Call me stupid, but please say in lamen's terms what is wrong with my belief? Are you saying that people sin to be forgiven? I agree, people do do things and know they can be forgiven, we should strive not to sin. Please elaborate to me, I am not catching your drift. 13) I was at my house, reading a computer screen. It was an email from someone in Rome, telling me I would receive the Spirit Stick today. So I went outside to see my brother on the tailgate of our truck going through the mail. I asked if my Spirit Stick came in the mail. He handed me a dark brown wooden stick. It was carved and beautifully designed. It had markings on plates on it. There were three plates. I looked at the center one, and it was in a language unknown to me, that did not use letters from our alphabet. When I woke up, I was trying to remember what the inscription said, and three words came to mind: “Mon Menos Aminil.” 14) My cousin and I were throwing football by the lake. We were a little over ankle deep in the brown water. He said “Is that smoke supposed to be there?” I turned to see a massive column of smoke behind me. We began to run. I turned back and saw skeletons of buildings burning. We came upon a trailer and told the inhabitants to run, we were under attack. They didn’t believe us and told us to leave. 15) This dream took place very close to the end of the Tribulation. The world was desolate. My brother, father, and I were living in this secure little house half in the ground. There was only one way in. We would go over this bridge to where this great battle was raging and fight against the enemy. One day while walking home we saw an enormous lightening storm occurring over the enemies troops. At one point the lightening was behind a cloud and shinned through an eye shaped hole. This made the enemy more powerful, or caused him to move faster. We locked ourselves in our house as troops advanced across the river. The troops passed. But their leader, Stykes, and a woman came to our door. I believe it was the same woman from my earlier dream. She planted C4 on the door, but I managed to bump it on the ground. It only blew open half the door. I swung my sword out and almost killed Stykes. My brother and I fell back to a rear room. I told my brother to let him attack him first, then I'd kill him. When he came in, he went after me, I blocked, then to Zach, then I cut open his stomach. Then it flashed to the next day. I was explaining what happened to my father and someone else. I told them I had to kill Zach. I then saw his body on the floor. His neck had been slit. I flashed back to his dying moments. We exchanged "I loves you's," then he said "He'll never stop Steven." 16) The nuclear attacks had just happened. My cousins were over at our house. It had happened at night while everyone was sleeping. We were completely disconnected from the outside world. My dad told me to get my shotgun because looters would surely come. Just then some looters drove up. I pointed the gun to them, yelled for them to leave, and they did. My dad told me bodies were everywhere. Some people were watching the weather channel, and it said something about lightening storms. Somebody said "They're blaming it on the lightening." They showed a map with lightening on the west and east coast, a bunch of them in the northeast and some in the midwest. I was outside guarding the house when 5 guys approached and asked if we had rooms. I said no but they advanced on me. I shot one, then another, then another. They kept coming. They attacked me and threw me in the back of their truck.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by john42588 11) I believe this dream to be very symbolic. I had been captured by the Antichrist. In this dream he was portrayed as a dark hooded figure, but I knew it was him. At the start, he had me nailed to something wooden; it could have been a cross. However, I was face down, and my arms were not stretched out, they were nailed about a foot away from my face. He was doing something to my back; I'm not sure what exactly. All I know is that it was immensely painful. Then he pulled me off the object to talk to me. I was in heavy pain; I remember seeing that I now had holes in my hands. He repeatedly told me that he would torture me for 12 more days, and then crucify me. I somehow was able to call someone, I don't remember who. I told them \"He's going to crucify me in 12 days!\" I repeated it over and over. I remember thinking to myself \"How am I going to last 12 more days?\" Then he nailed me down again. He said if I answered his questions wrong, he would freeze off one of my fingers for every wrong answer. Then I answered one correctly, and woke up. 12) I was at my house, among friends, fighting some other armed individuals. They seemed to be highly trained, with the government perhaps. We were fighting them with guns, in the yard and in the house. It seemed my mission was to protect this child. I kept the child with me, protecting him from harm. He never said anything, just stared at me, expecting me to save him. He had no worries it seemed, just a very peaceful sense about him. He was a little older than a toddler, I believe. After a while of fighting, my friends betrayed me and began fighting me as well. I found myself fighting numerous people by myself, while protecting this child. Yet I was able to fight them off and get this child to some area where he was safe. He was going to be transported to safety, or something along those lines. I kneeled before him, and I asked \"Are you really Christ?\" He just stared at me, but I had this overwhelming feeling of relief. I cried, because I knew it was Him. I fell to the ground in tears. Regarding Dream 11, you are in something of a fix, like the Catholic Stigmatics who 'believe' in Salvation by Crucifixian. Remember the Golden Rule? Well, if you were willing to have Jesus die for your sins on the Cross, does this not indicate, via the Golden Rule, that you yourself deserve to die on the Cross? So it is that all those who have followed the Antichrist Paul in the Doctrine of Salvation by Crucifixian will have to someday be Crucified themselves. Even in my dreams, to atone for past beliefs, I had been crucified on three separate occasions (in hurt less each successive time, though, I am encouraged to report). But, anyway, it is your own beliefs which put you into this Antichrist's power and which subjects you to your own Crucifixian. The 12 Days indicates a full period of time. Perhaps I should tell you something of the Catholic Stigmatic Saints -- those Saints who experience the actual Wounds of the Crucifixian, bleeding from the hands, head and side, often for years, and suffering the entire time. They consider it a blessing to suffer as they had wished Christ to suffer, again, hoping to murder the messiah so that people could have free sin. They deserve their pain, but they take it willingly. Anyway, they did have a choice. Christ had come to them with the Question, "Do you want my Glory, or do you want my Suffering?" And they had each dismissed the prospect of giving Glory to Christ, while choosing that Christ should suffer. Wrong answer. But it was the Catholic answer, and the answer the Paulist Doctrine must inevitably choose, which only goes to show that these things need to be changed. We should choose that Christ receive the Glory he so much deserves, especially after all of this Suffering we have heeped upon Him, and then equally upon ourselves. The Young Boy is the Christ . Will you betray him to more suffering and another Crucifixian, or will you fight that this time the Messiah and King of Kings will this time ascend to the Crown and be put on the Throne. You know, Christ, the first time, was not supposed to die. The Three Kings of the Orient saw no necessary slaughter in the future of the baby Christ they visited with gifts. They came to pay tribute to a Future King of Kings, which, to them, was a political reality. Those in power in Judah rejected such a course and faught against it, and God decided he would not impose a Messiah upon a World that so vociferously and actively would reject Him. But, now, with you new Young Christ, the World has a second chance. Now, you must quickly gather your faculty of discernment and be able to distinguish between what is Good and what is Evil, so that you do not unknowingly betray this Young New Messiah into the hands of the Antichrist, whose doctrines you still advance in the place of having any true morality. You cannot really protect the Christ while you suppose you are benefiting by His Murder. You must choose Glory for this New Christ and not surrender Him to ever more Suffering.

[john42588]

I've actually been attacked by what I believe to be demons. It was not a dream. 1)I fell asleep, and dreamt I was in some sort of game. I was standing by this rock that was in the middle of a desert. It was roughly 30 feet tall, maybe 15-20 in diameter, with a flat top. Now I heard a voice that said "you now have alien health." Then I had this feeling begin pulsating throughout my body. Now I cannot put into words this feeling, but it was not something in my mind. I was feeling it as I would if I were awake. It was an extremely good feeling. It felt like it was in my soul, not my body though, but pulsating throughout my body. I really can't explain it. Then it suddenly turned bad once I saw this giant mechanical thing. I have felt bad feelings, I have seen terrible things, but nothing can compare to the amount of evil I felt. It was pulsating throughout my body, my soul, my mind. It made me want to kill myself. It was like being tortured to death over and over again. I couldn't stand it. I only saw the mechanical thing for a split second, and then I became conscious. I was aware the position I was laying in bed, where my hands were, which way I was facing and such. The pain continued, I was hardly able to bear it. But I could not move. I tried for what seemed like a lifetime to move my hand. I couldn't open my eyes. I was thinking "Something’s gotten me, something has beaten me. I can't do anything." The pain suddenly stopped, and with my eyes closed I could see a very stern face, much like a statue. That disappeared, and then I saw the same type of alien as in previous experiences. Then my eyes snapped open and I could suddenly move. I got up, prayed for that to never happen again. I then went to my desk, wrote down what happened, and went back to a peaceful night's sleep. It happened again, but I asked God for help and I was able to lift my head up, and looked down to my pillow to see a demon's head on it, it was spinning around and laughing. Then it started to show me a bunch of different people's heads, and I got the impression that he was saying "we're everywhere." Then it disappeared. I was wide awake when all this occurred.

[Leo Volont]

Oh my God... you could really use some Spiritual Protection, and for that you can find no better expertise then can be found in the Catholic Church. For over a dozen Centuries they have been developing defenses against demons. No other Religion has put quite the same efforts into demon fighting as the Catholic Church (I think that Demons have been in large part attracted to attacking Catholics because of the great tension within the Church between the glorious influences of the Blessed Virgin Mary in contrast to the antichristical doctrines of paul which all of the Bishops prefer). But, yes, the Catholic Church has a great deal in it for fighting and repelling demons. Find a Catholic Goods Store or Catholic Book Store and buy the following: get a crucifix for your front door and for the wall of the room in which you sleep. Get a Miraculous Medal http://www.amm.org/medal.htm and then get a Saint Benedict Medal http://www.osb.org/gen/medal.html . In a nice small Catholic Bookstore on the poor side of town, these will cost practically no money at all. Our Lady the Blessed Virgin again shows a special patronage and protection to those who wear the Brown Scapular http://www.catholic-church.org/apcarmel/scapular.htm You might buy a small statue or picture of Saint Michael the Archangel, the enemy of Satan and the Commander of the Legions of Angels whose express purpose is the destruction of Demons. Other Holy Pictures and Statues might suggest themselves to you, as you look around. If you find just the right shop, where the owner is also the store manager, then you will have somebody who will be able to enthusiastically answer any of your questions. I also wear the chords of both Saint Joseph http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintj01.htm who is not specifically mentioned as a Power against Demons, however, I've been assured that there are not any more powerful Intercessionary Saints in Heaven than Saint Joseph. I also wear the chord of Philomena http://www.philomena.us/story_of_filomena.asp I say the Rosary daily and also wear a very sturdy set of Rosary Beads, wooden beads on strong chord -- not none of those flimsy chains that women have. The Rosary Beads will come with a Crucifix, which is protective. For a little more punch I added a Saint Bernard Medal (the Greatest Saint at the height of Catholic Civilization) and a Saint Vincent Ferrer Medal (personifying the Angel of Judgment who lived just before the Collapse of Catholic Civilization. They say he was capable of a thousand miracles a day... that a day without a 1000 miracles from his hand would have been a 'miracle'). So, you can infer by now that one should not have to go up against Demons alone, but that one can enlist the Aid of Intercession from the Holy Spirits and Heavenly Entities and Influences in order to combat those that are evil.

[john42588]

I need no catholic trinkets to protect me. I place my soul in God's hands and pray for him to protect me. but thank anyway. Could you please explain why you keep referring to Paul and Peter, and about who I am. Call me stupid, I'm just not following what you've been talking about. Thanks, and Merry Christmas

[john42588]

Not to be crude, but you're giving me christian advice, yet you break the third commandment in that last post? It's not like you accidentally said it, you could have reviewed it and removed it. Yet you decided it's ok. That's not giving me much faith in your logic and beliefs.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by john42588 I need no catholic trinkets to protect me. I place my soul in God's hands and pray for him to protect me. but thank anyway. Could you please explain why you keep referring to Paul and Peter, and about who I am. Call me stupid, I'm just not following what you've been talking about. Thanks, and Merry Christmas I should think that you do need some Spiritual Protections. Have you not always had God to protect you, and have you not been in trouble that entire time? Perhaps you need to consider that God works by Agency. God does not come Himself to fend off these minor demons, but that God sends his Angels, Saints and Emmissaries to do such work for him. And then you Protestants make the work for the Demons so much easier by rejecting and shooing away these Servents of God -- your God-Sent protections, because you insist that it always must be God come down from His Throne Himself to protect you. Well, then, suffer. I should hope it only gets worse for you now. You think you are worth more than the Angels and the Saints. Well, such arrogance is what the Demons will find so amusing as they taunt you, as they poke you with their flaming rods or whatever. I tried to explain to you that Catholicism has a great deal of expertise in Fighting Demons. Do you think they would not have discovered that "trinkets" are not as useful as a bare reliance upon some hope in God alone. Do you suppose you are the first person ever to think of such a thing? And as it never seemed to work for anybody else, why then do you suppose that it will work for you? Have you ever considered that your concerns over Demonic Possession did in fact act as Prayers that rose up to God and that God considered it and then sent myself with all of the appropriate answers to you... so you could reject them out of hand. Oh yes, I suppose you would not be the first person to be better than all the Saints, better than all the Angels, and so equal to God Himself that only God can help you. Oh, but wait, is it not just demons you are complaining about. How great could you be if you are worried only about demons. How important, after all, is a silly demon in the Great Scheme of Things? For you to be onset with Demons must show that as insignificant as demons are, you must be something quite less even than they. So, I would infer that it little behooves you to slightingly refer to the One Set of Traditions that could come to your aid during your torments. But since you are proud and insulting, I should leave you to your sufferings until by your relentless tortures you should become just a tad more wise. So, good luck and don't drop the soap. Oh, and about Peter and Paul.... I wished to explain certain aspects of Doctrine to you, so that you could understand at a basic level the difference between True Religion and False Religion. But it was all quite college level thinking, and I suppose the schools at the lower levels no longer expose their students to such contemplations and so you were not in the habit or capacity to be able to follow along. But I'm sure if you go back and read again, you can do better than to tell me that you understood nothing of it.

[Leo Volont]

Originally posted by john42588 Not to be crude, but you're giving me christian advice, yet you break the third commandment in that last post? It's not like you accidentally said it, you could have reviewed it and removed it. Yet you decided it's ok. That's not giving me much faith in your logic and beliefs. Huh? The Third Commandment? I had to look it up: "You shalt not swear falsely by the name of the Lord..." - This commandment is to never take the name of God in a vain oath. In Exodus, the text reads "in a vain oath" (לא תשא את שם ה' לשוא), while in Deuteronomy it reads "in a false oath" (לא תשא שם ה' לשקר) Hmmmm. Now I know that you are silly, as I did no such thing. You come asking for help and then accuse the people who come to your aid of violating commandments. When did I falsely swear by the name of God. I NEVER use the name of God. Indeed, It is only by the inferences of scholarship that everybody is now guessing what the name of God is, but in History we are told that only the Priests in the Temple knew for sure. When mentioned, the Name of God was only abbreviated, so that nobody would even say it in reading over the abbreviation. But now the Priests are all gone. the Temple was destroyed. And since nobody can tell us exactly what the Name of God is, it can hardly be anybody's sin to say that which nobody now knows. But still, you ask for help and then you bite the hand that comes to your assistance. And assistence that took no little effort. Look over these pages I wrote for your benefit and then tell me again how evil I am. Oh no. No longer will I help you, you ungrateful little snake. I should send my best wishes to the demons who in making you flinch and cry out in pain, only seem to be doing the Good Work of the Lord, as you don't seem to deserve anything better.

[john42588]

"You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name." Exodus 20:7 Why would God tell us this when we know not his name? You blatantly broke a commandment. I must say I'm quite surprised by your damning replies. Doesn't seem right for someone who is taught to "Do unto others," by our savior. But then again your not a christian are you? I have seen and talked to Christ, so I wouldn't think he would be mad at me for my manner of thinking. I never said I was on the same level as God, you just judged me, which I think is also forbidden by Christ, our savior. I have sacrificed more than you could ever know for Christ, but you did not know that. All you know is I refuse to give money to a denomination whose priests rape young boys and the people all damn everyone else. You know nothing of what Jesus taught. He taught of compassion and love, neither of which you have. Your damning me to pain and suffering? I didn't know you were God. I would think that such an act would make you equivalent to him, deciding people's fates and all. No, my friend, you will be the one to suffer later on for your hatred and judging. You need not reply to this, unless you just want to continue arguing, because I not longer hold any stock in what you say.

[ElijahJones]

Dude, if you want to understand the storm that's coming check out this site www.peakoil.com. A little advice though that applies to the whole internet. Be careful, you have no idea where some of these people are, they could be ex-cons on the computer in the local library, or baby raping false prophets trying do draw you into their delusions. There have always been a few folks on here that one would have to classify as cosmically wierd, some even frightening to the point that I would not want them to know where I live. Don't waste time arguing with them. It is just that, a waste of time.

[john42588]

thanks for the site, lot of interesting stuff. If your interested read up on when planet x is going to be passing through, the mayans and incans, and the pyramid time line, most of which can be found at www.exodus2006.com . I'd be very interested in conversing this with you by email if your interested, that's why I started posting on this site. As for volonte, I hadn't planned to argue with him anymore. Thanks for the advice.

[djaio]

lol. leo, you never fail to amuse me.