Indie Jazz?

[Bearsy]

Not independent jazz, but an indie/jazz hybrid of music. Modest Mouse with freeform brass, woodwind and drum solos? Things like that... Does it exist? :peace:

[dylanshmai]

Radiohead. Amnesiac is definitely I hybrid of the two and includes some ethnic drums. Floats just like jazz, and is played like jazz...it is jazz. Kid A is more Electronic sounding, but spacey, but a little less "jazz" like, but still just as jazzy and off beat. Hail To The Thief is a bit more punchy, but still manages to be very very spacey and really a strait up trip. In Rainbows is probably their most jazz like album and the timing is really something to be marveled at, but a bit simpler and more constant sounding than Amnesiac, but still as organic as Amnesiac. OK Computer, and The Bends are more rock n roll, but they still have an odd timing, but a bit more strait like rock music is played (these are their earlier albums)

[Bearsy]

I know Radiohead, I love Radiohead. Radiohead is nothing like what I asked about.

[dylanshmai]

yeah it is. Have you listened to Tom Yorke - The Eraser?

[dylanshmai]

If you like Modest Mouse, you will most definitely like The Islands - Arms Way

[DuB]

I'm not buying Radiohead as jazz either. Improvisation is absolutely central to all forms of jazz, and Radiohead, while brilliant, is very light on improvisation. I can sort of see some parallels between the two, namely the interesting rhythmic and harmonic aspects, but if this is going to be our criteria then we'd have to broaden our definition of jazz by quite a bit, indeed. The key distinction is that Radiohead strives to be unorthodox and experimental whereas jazz doesn't - complex rhythm and harmony are simply part of that style, and for the most part ("modal jazz" comes to mind) always have been. If anything, jazz tends to be the opposite of experimental. It may seem terribly clever and original to the uninitiated, but an experienced jazz fan will find little (if any) in modern jazz that hasn't been done decades ago. Jazz is comparable to Latin in that, while it would be questionable to label it "dead," there is little or no innovation in it these days; the only "innovation" jazz has seen in recent years (i.e., 20 years) has been for some musicians to merge jazz with various forms of electronica. Does this mean that it's not worth one's time to listen to or study jazz? Of course not; Latin seems to be doing okay. I suppose I could see Radiohead being described as "jazzy" (although even that is a bit of a stretch in my mind), but I've never heard Radiohead described as "jazz" until now, and I have to say that I'm thoroughly unconvinced. Semantics? Perhaps, but if you try to sell Radiohead as jazz to a straight-ahead jazz cat, you're going to be in for it. (Those guys can be quite opinionated ) More on-topic now: I'm sorry, but I'm not personally aware of any artists like that.