The Trayvon Martin Case...

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Originally Posted by greenhavoc

This guy over reacted, clearly, but if the suspicious boy would have been white, then would this have still been a hate crime? I despise people like you.

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no, it wouldn't. trayvons skin color is what makes it a hate crime.

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Let me show you what a real hate crime looks like

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this is a bounty. it has less to do with zimmermans race, and more to do with zimmerman having killed a young black man.
no, I don't agree with having a bounty on someones head. yes, I do think this is more justified than the events leading to this thread, which include zimmerman killing a man based on his skin color, and zimmerman not being in jail because of his skin color.

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Can you imagine what would happen if a group of white people, in this day and age, put up a dead or alive bounty for a black guy?

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they would be charged with hate crimes, just like zimmerman.
no, wait, they wouldn't. because they're white.

anyways. you're going to deny the systematic racism against people of color, and instead claim that whites are the real victims. I will be angry and upset so I will concede now.
I cannot refute your mind-blowing evidence that we live in a world where everyone is hated equally, and blacks are just complaining because they're unlucky or are prejudiced against whites.
thanks

Zimmerman isn't in jail because he had a license to carry the gun and in Florida you can shoot someone if they attack/threaten you.

This wasn't a hate crime, it sounds more like stupidity coupled with more stupidity.

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Originally Posted by no-Name

no, it wouldn't. trayvons skin color is what makes it a hate crime.

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All crime is hate related, traitor.

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this is a bounty. it has less to do with zimmermans race, and more to do with zimmerman having killed a young black man.

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It has everything to do with his race. He is a WHITE man, being targeted by BLACK men because he killed another BLACK man. When is the last time you heard of a BLACK man posting a bounty for another BLACK man, wanted dead or alive for killing a WHITE man?

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no, I don't agree with having a bounty on someones head. yes, I do think this is more justified than the events leading to this thread, which include zimmerman killing a man based on his skin color, and zimmerman not being in jail because of his skin color.

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Yeah, nothing quite like a good ol' lynching to suppress more of that white guilt that seems to plague what 'real' white society is all about.

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they would be charged with hate crimes, just like zimmerman.
no, wait, they wouldn't. because they're white.

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That's your argument here, race?

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anyways. you're going to deny the systematic racism against people of color

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No, I'm not.

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and instead claim that whites are the real victims

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Are you fucking retarded?

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I cannot refute your mind-blowing evidence that we live in a world where everyone is hated equally

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I don't recall saying this, or even thinking it. As a matter of fact, hate is nowhere near equal. lol!!!

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and blacks are just complaining because they're unlucky or are prejudiced against whites.
thanks

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Oh, that's what I was doing? You, Mrs, have lost your fucking mind and I sincerely hope your response was in jest.

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Originally Posted by Carôusoul

incomprehensible gangspeak writing online

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... lol

Are there still people out there who haven't caught up with slang and Ebonics yet?

What he did was not even remotely legal, not even remotely self defense. Only a racist judge would see it that way. Florida's self defense laws still don't change the facts of the incident and the fact is the boy was unarmed, and the man did not gun him down on his own private property. That man needs to be charged with murder.

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Originally Posted by greenhavoc

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Are you a member of Stormfront by any chance?
I'm not going to attack you, I'm genuinely curious.

The question of if it's a hate crime or not is largely irrelevant. The point is that the police didn't persecute and, so far as I know, haven't provided a good reason for that.

Someone just needs to kill that douchebag and claim he was threatening them. Then kill the prosecutor that turned down the case and claim he was also being threatening. Then kill like 4 or 5 racist cops. See how long they keep that law.

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Originally Posted by louie54

Are you a member of Stormfront by any chance?
I'm not going to attack you, I'm genuinely curious.

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No. Why do you ask?

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Originally Posted by no-Name

no, it wouldn't. trayvons skin color is what makes it a hate crime.

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Originally Posted by greenhavoc

All crime is hate related, traitor.

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Originally Posted by greenhavoc

No. Why do you ask?

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I'm just trying to figure out why you called him a traitor.

Because he is incapable of spotting his own bullshit in this thread. He has turned on himself in favor of social acceptance. Traitor.

How has he turned on himself? By defending the right another human being has to walk down a street wearing a hoodie?

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Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

How has he turned on himself? By defending the right another human being has to walk down a street wearing a hoodie?

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Yeah man, that's it.

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Originally Posted by Carôusoul

A little facebook digging reveals Trayvon was a drug dealer at least on a small scale. Though his page has been taken down i saw one good post on his wall asking where he was because "nigga need plant". Other interesting facts include pictures showing he for some reason had gold teeth.

Im not supporting zimmerman, but people making trayvon out to be some angelic kid seem misled at best. I think he was a thug, based on his twitter and facebook.

Doesnt justify murder, but it is easy to get swept away in a storm of anti-racism and paint him as a saint or martyr. He wasnt.


We dont know what happened. But i think everyone jumping to the concLusion that an innocent boy has been killed in a vicious hate crime are idiots.

That means most of you

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Oh come on! You ":think" he is a a thug?

This is his real picture

https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net...49213158_n.jpg

This is not a thug, I've been in jail with real thugs. This child is not. You really can't see deeper than appearances? Just because he was wearing a hoodie doesn't make him a thug, and throwing up gang signs ( which he didn't ) doesn't make you a thug either. All the young kids do that now-a-days, it's just a trend.

I just don't get it, you just judge and stereotype like the rest. Even if he was a thug, he didn't deserve to get shot. Nobody deserves to die, not even murderers. All guns should be banned, even police shouldn't have them.

The police told him not to follow Trayvon and he did it anyway. Zimmerman was trying to be a freelance vigilante, walked up to Trayvon and started fucking with him. Read the reports and youtube police phone calls.

All of that aside, even if they did tussle, the guy was still a fuckin coward for pulling out a gun on a child 11 years younger than him and 100 pounds lighter.

There's no way this is going to fly, people are on twitter retweeting zimmermans address as we speak. This was most definitely a hate crime.

Here's another picture of him wearing a Hollister t-shirt.

http://www.opednews.com/populum/uplo...20120321-5.jpg

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Originally Posted by louie54

Here's another picture of him wearing a Hollister t-shirt.

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please don't paint him as a martyr or a helpless child. as many others have said, hordes of people are crowding around this case saying "he was only a child" and being sympathetic solely because of his age.
we can't do that. we have to be aware that this happens to people that aren't kids. that there are many crimes similar to this one that happen because of race, gender, and sexual orientation.
we can use trayvon as an example, but we can't defend him solely because he was young.

even if you didn't mean to paint it that way, it's still an appeal to emotion and is largely irrelevant to the thread.

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Originally Posted by no-Name

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I was sort of adding on to Majestic's post.

Black guy wearing a Hollister =/= thug.


Edit: I realize I could be... wrong. But he still doesn't look like the "thug" type, at least not in the pictures we provided.

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Originally Posted by louie54

I was sort of adding on to Majestic's post.

Black guy wearing a Hollister =/= thug.


Edit: I realize I could be... wrong. But he still doesn't look like the "thug" type, at least not in the pictures we provided.

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awesome. more stereotyping.

please stop.

I didn't intend to stereotype, and I never suggested that he would be a thug if he wore a different shirt.
I'm just trying to say that he looks like a normal kid. Not that I or anyone else here would know anyway.

I sort of agree with louie here in that the only possible way someone could suppose Trayvon was up to no good is because they were racist and assumed all black people are up to no good. Nothing in his clothing appeared to fit the stereotypical criminal.

What do you think of this?:



Is he saying "fucking coons" or "fucking punks". I don't hear a "pu" sound.

Definitely sounds like punks to me, not that I think it makes a lick of difference. This guy needs to be charged with murder. It's obviously a "hate crime" whatever that is, but murder is also murder. Hate crimes are typically meant to enhance assault charges when people gang up on others.

The institutional racism that says police should turn a blind eye when blacks are killed is far more troubling than the fact that the neighborhood watch guy might of been a racist. While some guy killing another may be an isolated incident, the fact he got off so easily without a real investigation shows a huge biased by the police and likely means racism by the police is a common occurrence. In fact if the guy got a free pass with murder, there are probably hundreds or thousands of other cases that were mishandled as well.

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Originally Posted by louie54

What do you think of this?

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...it sounds like the wind in the mic.

Exorcists do this too. They record static in a house and then find bits of the static which sound like threatening vocalisations. It's the observer-expectancy effect.

As most of you have noticed, this debate over Florida's ridiculous law (Jon Stewart said, "yeah, it's like those signs we have in the New York subway, 'if you see something, shoot something'.") is absurd. The 911 tapes clearly show the police instructing him not to follow the kid.