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Country music.
as i said...
The piss poor educational system that precipitates the constant shitstorm of idiotic fuckups...
Society.
too much $w@q.
being educated on your political opinion makes you ignorant.
The small things.
The Military Industrial Complex fools the people into supporting near constant, completely unnecessary warfare and it's outrageous to claim soldiers are not actually out there dying for our freedom but are in fact dying to give the government a reason to remove more and more freedom.
The Prison Industrial Complex takes precedence over education, and marijuana was illegalized as a means of funding this complex.
The Medical Industry has absolutely nothing to do with Supply and Demand nor is in anyway a free market system. It is government's single biggest lobby and the collusion is disgusting. Real cures are suppressed as it's single greatest desire is to make as many people sick for as long as possible and charge them amounts they have no say in. And yet for some reason people believe that it's free market based and think if we socialize it, it will be the end of America.
The agricultural industry is colluded with the FDA so the FDA is designed essentially to make it impossible for a small farm to operate. Farming practices are abhorrently unsustainable and threatening the entire ecosphere by wiping out bees. The ultimate goal of Monsanto is to replace the ecosphere with one of their own design and control humanity by controlling their food supply. They are right out of a science fiction story and yet most people do not even know they exist.
The culture is constantly being repetitively drugged by distractions. The entire news media is an instrument meant to fool people into thinking they're informed while ignoring or belittling the most importance current events. These people then blame the other political faction for controlling a biased media when in reality neither party controls the media, the people that own the parties own the media. And the same people own both parties. Not only are Americans hopelessly divided politically but most don't even care to think about politics and will leave the room if you bring it up. Most people are completely addicted to pop culture instead, and all of pop culture is designed to keep people from standing up for themselves, organizing or doing anything in real service to their country. Instead, the people considered serving their country are actually unknowingly helping destroy it.
Edit: I completely forgot the corruption regarding the financial industry, which purposely collapses the economy and gets rewarded for it
What I dislike about America is how many Americans choose to exercise their right to criticize and complain about our country.
If all the people who hate the US moved elsewhere, our country would be a much happier place with fewer people just complaining about it.
Plus the people who moved elsewhere might learn valuable lessons of how different other countries are, and how for example in most countries they could not just state that they hate their country.
However, I have recently heard this joke: Proud American: "What I love about America is that I can complain about the US President without getting into trouble with the governement." A national of other country responds: "Our country has the same level of freedom. Here also you can complain about the US President without getting into any trouble with the government."
Sometimes they drink iced tea that isn't sweetened like what the hell????
I gave that a like because it's a hilarious answer, but I love classic country.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLUELINE976
Isn't that a complaint about our country?Quote:
Originally Posted by JoannaB
There is a whole lot I like about the United States. It is my home, and I will always live here, unless I am certain that it is about to go into 100% government control. That could happen not too long from now. I posted this continuation thread because I want there to be more discussion about how the country can be improved. We have some serious issues that need to be fixed.
Yeah, I know. If it continues, I'm moving to North Korea.Quote:
Originally Posted by ♥Mark
If you wanted discussion of how this country can be improved, why didn't you rephrase your opening post and subject that way?
I think this thread is likely to just attract complaints not solutions the way it is phrased now, and yes you are right that my complaint about too many people just complaining is also a complaint.
Here is one suggested solution: every American should be required to live in another country for at least one semester as a requirement for completing high school, so that everyone could have something to compare the experience in this country to, and so that they learned a new perspective on things.
It wouldn't be as entertaining. Also, problems have to be identified before solutions to them can be effectively discussed.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoannaB
Didn't work for me. Living in Argentina only further opened my eyes to just how backwards my nation is.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoannaB
I'm listing my complaints the same way the Founding Fathers did when they signed the Declaration of Independence. I'm a patriot and it sickens me to see my country twisted into this mess, a democracy tricked into acting against itself, and a government of untouchable corruption, a fascist state. I love this country so much I'm willing to die for it, and if everyone with complaints about the US were to move out this country would be anything but a happier place. Who would defend justice, then? Awareness is not pessimism. Pessimism is complaining and thinking that nothing can be done. Oppositely I have the highest hopes for this country.
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Originally Posted by JoannaB
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Originally Posted by Universal Mind
Joanna, I think you missed the point. He wasn't just cleverly pointing out that it was a complaint, he was saying if so many people have a problem with America then that shows there's something wrong with America, not just with the people complaining.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoannaB
Most of the complaints here aren't just silly or frivolous, they're dead serious and many have chilling implications.
Do you advocate staunchly supporting the government no matter what they do?
No, I don't. However, I do think that currently there are too many people complaining, and not enough people actively working on solutions, and also not enough people appreciating how good we actually have it here. I used to complain about the US for the first two years after moving to the US as a teenager. Then I went back to Europe for vacation, and I realized how good life in the US actually is, and that complaining all the time was having a negative impact on my quality of life, and so I stopped complaining.
One of the worst things about the USA is the way most Americans can not, and will not, accept criticism.
The pride you have in your country, blinds you to what is really happening on your doorstep.
Both your media, and government use this as a method to control, and manipulate you all.
A few seem to be aware of the truth, but "a few" is not enough to do anything about it.
If you say it in the context of what the government does wrong or what too many Americans do, Americans will generally not be offended. When I see people on the internet making blanket statements about how Americans are fat, arrogant, and/or stupid, they lose me. There are ways to criticize the U.S. without insulting all of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by TiredPhil
Dislike about the US? That it has gotten so large, that its leaders hold an enormous amount of power.
In my small country of Denmark, politicians and power wielders are every bit as dumb, egotistical and self aggrandizing as their US counterparts. But they don't hold very much power, because Denmark has only 5.5 mil. people.
I am genuinely worried about the level of power held by the american leaders; any unwise move by them can have catastrophic consequences.
"Power corrupts", it was said a long time ago, and I see plenty of corruption around governments everywhere - not least in the US.
I so hope everything turns out well, but as far as I can tell, we're moving in the wrong direction ...
Quote "Americans are fat, arrogant, and/or stupid." - This is a fact
Many of my neighbours are also fat, arrogant, and/or stupid. - This is also a fact, but I live in the UK.
Every country in the world has this type of person. Every street has this type of person.
The quote you disagree with would have " All " at the beginniing of it.
The quote you can not deny would have " Some " at the beginning of it.
I can tell you for a fact that a large proportion of the world regard the USA as a great country to live in, or move to.
Listening to fools jabber on is one thing, but taking their opinions seriously has to be even more foolish.
I NEED HELP
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Originally Posted by JoannaB
But isn't open conversation about the problems the first step? First we have to admit there is a problem before that problem can be solved - especially if solving it depends on a majority of people realizing there is a problem.
I think what maybe you don't understand is that what we're complaining about are things that used to be good in America but have gone considerably downhill. It's frightening to watch your own country become something that it used to stand as a symbol against. At one time America was much better at education, economy, government, business etc. - now it's a joke in all those regards and in fact is teetering on the brink of becoming a totalitarian police state. This is frightening and repugnant to those of us who love what America is supposed to stand for.
When you leave out a word like "some" or "many," the implication is "all." If I say British people are terrorists, doesn't that suggest much more than that two British people are terrorists? If I think two British people are terrorists, shouldn't I make it clear that I am talking about some and not all?Quote:
Originally Posted by TiredPhil
In formal logic, a statement is proven false by just one counterexample.
I am very much of the observation, that the down hill motion is taking place in countries all over the world. The US is definitely not alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkmatters
We're leading the world into Hell :evil:
Are you suggesting the problem may be with the way the suggestion is worded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
Or are you suggesting the problem may be with the way it is heard.
Perhaps a little more thought before people put their thought down into words, and a little more thought when reading would help.
Oh the irony :shadewink:Quote:
Originally Posted by TiredPhil
Ironic from whos perspectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkmatters
Dude - either way you're now guilty of exactly what you accuse Americans of. And even better - every denial from you is just further proof!
Dude - Thank you for pointing out the mistake in my wording.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkmatters
I replied to the question " What Do You Dislike About the US? "
I did not reply to the question " What do you dislike about the UK " or "What do you dislike about the world governments"
If they had been the questions, I would have replied in a similar fashion.
I am not putting forward an accusition, I am putting forward a fact that many agree with.
"However" if you do not agree with my comments, then they are mindless banter, and the facts are just opinion, and probably false.
DUDE
Consider these two statements:Quote:
Originally Posted by TiredPhil
1. British people have sex with farm animals.
2. Two British farmers got caught having sex with their animals.
Is one of those statements less offensive than the other?
I do agree with the point of view you are putting forward.
It is all in the way the statement is worded.
And by the way, What is wrong with British people having sex with animals ?
Hey, as long as the animals don't mind, then it's no worse than backwoods American hillbillies doing it!! :lol:
A nation of free speech welcomes dissent. Unfortunately as Noam Chomsky has pointed out, the establishment has become exceedingly skilled at manufacturing consent. Expressing dissent is absolutely essential to the survival of our republic. Otherwise we risk dipping into fascism, which has already begun.
I find it is typically those of mainstream political pursuasion that can't stomach the criticism they hear poimted at their own country. Something about admitting a fault just isn't popular, who knew? There is no way to improve something if you don't know what there is to be improved.
The fact that the U.S is built around personal and corporate freedom is simultaneously its greatest strength and its greatest peril. Freedom is a high virtue, a stepping stone towards unconditional love. Such an environment of freedom has unfortunately allowed networks of individuals to amass enormous amounts of financial power, who are now in the process of attempting to covertly take over the country. A free society is in many ways a power vacuum, only with a few legal and governmental structures in place which slow the time it takes for those who love control to take control.
The solution? Awareness of negativity is to be balanced with action towards positivity. Research, discuss, expose those who wish to remove freedoms - however more focus should be put on one's own love of freedom. Take action towards love and freewill in whatever way is unique to you. Only when a critical mass of the population is focused on love will it be reflected into the macrocosm of the government.
The legal drinking age and the number of fat people. There's plenty to love about the US though! Like Buffalo Wings and the Grand Canyon and freedom.
Now that was a reply worth agreeing with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chimpertainment
"Hey, as long as the animals don't mind, then it's no worse than backwoods American hillbillies doing it"
Are you saying "All" American hillbillies are doing it, or just some.
I have to get out of this thread, I am going mad.
the obsession with money
i also think a lot of kids (well at least where i live) glamorize the gang life and look up to gangs as potential role models. (the obsession for power i guess)
*Zealot patriotism/nationalism (goes for any country for that matter)
*The "We're the best" attitude
*Contradicting foreign policy (supporting dictators while bragging about freedom and democracy)
All the people who are easily swayed by religious and political ideology who are running us into the ground in the name of altruism.
Our systems of privilege and oppression.
I forgot, I also dislike all the people making themselves out to be victims.
Date system in America is the wrong way around
1 / 2 / 2013
1st Feb 2013
9/11 is the 9th of November
Everything is based off of time and the need to save as much time as possible. You know, for a rainy day or something.
Nah.
Whenever I'm waiting for an appointment (for whatever reason), and someone's late, I start to feel anxious. Even five minutes after the time of the appointment.
My Sociology teacher told us about how our society differs from those in Brazil. Apparently, most other nations have very lenient deadlines when it comes to time. In Brazil, people often come into class 10+ minutes late and nobody bats an eyelash. I was late for Econ by a good three or four seconds and was scolded by my teacher. I wonder how much of our desire for saving time comes from the idea that everything is also based on a value, and the more you work, the more money you have, so the more valuable you are.